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Why is this man being celebrated?

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fizzywidget · Today 06:31

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8rz38jr50go

so when his child was 8 years old he decided to leave the country and undertake a 28 year walk around the world, setting himself a rule that he couldn’t come back to the UK until he’d completed it, and we’ve celebrating him why?

Karl Bushby, wearing  a fleece and shorts, pushes a handcart along a fast rural road.  An orange hi-vis bib is attached to the front of the cart.

World trekker Karl Bushby's final push home to Hull

Global walker Karl Bushby is almost within sight of his journey's end after 28 years away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8rz38jr50go

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fuckeditupbadly · Today 08:29

Interesting that hes come back to the UK...needing NHS care having not paid NI for years?

BlueStripeBowl · Today 08:29

PollyBell · Today 08:01

So if a woman does one achievement are people going to investigate her private life to see if it is suitable to mean the achievement can be celebrated or not?

Qho get to approve what is acceptable or not?

I don't see the connection between what he did and whatever his private life had in it

He chose to abandon his child when he was 8. A son. A son who might have benefited from having a dad to - talk him through male puberty, teach him to shave, model what a good father looks like etc.

I suspect, however, that this man would not have been a good father or role model but I doubt that was his thinking. His thinking was completely self centred and a stark example of the double standards society had for women and men.

If a mother had left her 8 year old for the rest of their childhood to follow their dream of walking a lot (and then living in Mexico in-between walks) she’d be hauled over the coals not celebrated.

LateLifeReturnee · Today 08:30

OhTheBusesYoullCatch · Today 08:02

So he couldn't see his son in NI because he was a paratrooper, so he left his job as a paratrooper to walk around the world.

Couldn't he have left his job to be able to see his son?

Would an ex paratrooper be able to go to NI?

I wonder if his ex deliberately chose to live somewhere he couldn't go, or if it was just unfortunate circumstances.

Unfortunately, paratroopers ex or not were and are targeted in Northern Ireland. Murky circumstances, state collusion and losing relatives with no answers tends to breed bitterness.

I don't know his wife's back ground. If she was from East Belfast and moved back there, no problem, he could visit and he'd have pints waiting for him at the bar. Paratroop Regiment flag flown often in Loyalist areas.

West Belfast, Bogside and other heavily Nationalist areas, they'd know her ex had been a paratropper and shoot him on the wayvtonpuck up.of drop off his son. Someone would notice in those streets. Even to this day he'd be at risk

Somewhere inbetween, rural, small towns, mixed areas, he'd probably be okay. But evebn there, again, the wrong person could notice

Unfortunately the sad reality of Northern Ireland.

dordpak · Today 08:34

This is typical of any adventurer, they put themselves above their family. I did read about it in the Guardian & found it interesting.

Janetwin · Today 08:34

Velumental · Today 08:17

Being from.northeen Ireland and 43 years old this is a nonsense, there were plenty of ex soldiers, people living peacefully, particularly a soldier in a loyalist area would be grand. He left his job anyway.

If his wife felt he wouldn't follow her to northern Ireland I wonder how awful he was for her to ale that step..

Thirdly, some men will do literally anything to get out of parenting

I saw a story recently of a man heading off to run an ultra marathon to raise money for the nicu that he's just brought his newborn home from. If my husband had done that it would have been instant divorce.

“Some men will literally do anything to get out of parenting”. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
thank you. That really made me laugh.

AnotherAnnie · Today 08:35

His home life isnt my business. I dont know, If he is unstable as some suggest I am grateful hes alive as if he wasnt that would be very hard for the family.

Ponoka7 · Today 08:35

PollyBell · Today 08:01

So if a woman does one achievement are people going to investigate her private life to see if it is suitable to mean the achievement can be celebrated or not?

Qho get to approve what is acceptable or not?

I don't see the connection between what he did and whatever his private life had in it

Well yes they do. I'd bet my house that no Mother, who has abandoned their children, lived off grid, would get away with not being castigated across the press. Mothers of children who have been murdered have been subjected to intense scrutiny. The thread about any male offender always goes to pull apart the women around him, because they are somehow partly to blame.
His wife, Angela, was from Belfast and returned there, for family support. He has missed out the parts about the women he has lived with. No woman would get away with this.

yellowrosesontable · Today 08:37

So he swam the channel to England? How did he get his cart across?

dordpak · Today 08:39

There was a very good documentary about the climber Alison Hargreaves, she had a lot of criticism about her choices because she was a mother. There is definitely a double standard.

LlynTegid · Today 08:41

I didn’t see the article as celebrating the man, and agree about abdication of responsibility.

BlueStripeBowl · Today 08:42

Ponoka7 · Today 08:35

Well yes they do. I'd bet my house that no Mother, who has abandoned their children, lived off grid, would get away with not being castigated across the press. Mothers of children who have been murdered have been subjected to intense scrutiny. The thread about any male offender always goes to pull apart the women around him, because they are somehow partly to blame.
His wife, Angela, was from Belfast and returned there, for family support. He has missed out the parts about the women he has lived with. No woman would get away with this.

Has Angela spoken about her story? I’d be very interested to hear her version of events. I strongly suspect (but can’t know of course) it would be;

Married a man who seemed great.
Once were married and had a child his true colours showed.
Some form of abuse (coercive control, emotional, physical, sexual, narcissistic or a mixture, infidelity) or may be just not pulling his weight.
Divorce - then post separation abuse
Move home to get support and get some distance.

He doesn’t like having his behaviour called out so fucks off to Mexico and keeps walking to avoid his own inadequacies.

If her story comes out and it’s vastly different I’ll donate £100 to a domestic abuse charity!

tomorrowfollowstoday · Today 08:43

BlueStripeBowl · Today 08:16

It’s a positive article and gives him free exposure. There is no criticism of him as a father. There is no challenge of him.

There's no criticism or praise.
His private life is not a matter of public concern.
The facts are that this person did this thing.

It would be completely inappropriate in a liberal democracy for a news outlet to be passing judgement on the private lives of citizens.

BlueStripeBowl · Today 08:46

tomorrowfollowstoday · Today 08:43

There's no criticism or praise.
His private life is not a matter of public concern.
The facts are that this person did this thing.

It would be completely inappropriate in a liberal democracy for a news outlet to be passing judgement on the private lives of citizens.

Journalists write opinion pieces all the time. ‘Some might criticise him abdicating himself from his duties as a father, his reply to those criticisms is…’

Its also free publicity.

What would the article look like if it was a mother? 🤔

MotherOfBengals · Today 08:46

Gengha · Today 08:06

YANBU

hope the son tells him to piss off

According to an Apple News article his son met him at Dover so it can’t have been that bad.

KnickerBockerGloriously · Today 08:50

@fizzywidget Is he being 'celebrated'? Or is just reporting and 'news'?

I think it's the latter.

Maybe you have misjudged the tone of the feature.

watchingthishtread · Today 08:56

Is he being celebrated? I'm reading the article thinking he must be mentally ill.

AudHvamm · Today 08:57

AnonyLonnymouse · Today 07:29

I am not particularly impressed by him. However, I did read a longer article and apparently British soldiers were not able to live in NI at the time unless they were serving there. So once his ex-wife moved to NI that was a big barrier. But that is no excuse for not maintaining a relationship with his son at a later date.

I briefly knew someone involved in a similar quest and he was pretty arrogant and self-involved, but perhaps you have to be in order to undertake this kind of mission?

It all seems pretty pointless and self indulgent really.

Yes this is a quote Guardian article earlier this month:

"In his early 20s, stationed in Northern Ireland, he married a Belfast woman, yet another Angela. Five years later, when they were living in Hampshire, they divorced. She returned home to Belfast with their young son, Adam. At the time, servicemen were only allowed into Northern Ireland if they were serving there, so Bushby was effectively separated from Adam."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/oct/13/karl-bushby-incredible-28-year-walk-home-goliath-expedition-hull

I thought this piece left enough space around descriptions of his motives and behaviours to highlight the ambiguity of it all.

BlueStripeBowl · Today 08:58

MotherOfBengals · Today 08:46

According to an Apple News article his son met him at Dover so it can’t have been that bad.

My dad was abusive. I still saw him and had a relationship with him of sorts. His son being there gives us no information about this man at all, other than his sperm reached this sons mums egg at some point in time.

tomorrowfollowstoday · Today 08:59

BlueStripeBowl · Today 08:46

Journalists write opinion pieces all the time. ‘Some might criticise him abdicating himself from his duties as a father, his reply to those criticisms is…’

Its also free publicity.

What would the article look like if it was a mother? 🤔

This isn't an opinion piece.

This man did a thing. His family situation is not my business.

Heyhelga · Today 08:59

Whatever he gained from such a venture of travelling the world surely can't top seeing your own child who you helped raise to the age of 8 grow into a teenager and adult and bring into the world a grandchild.

Sartre · Today 09:00

I don’t know anything about the guy but it’s such a white middle class privileged thing to do. Let’s give up everything to walk around the world- riiiight…

Imisscoffee2021 · Today 09:00

Anewusernametoday · Today 06:59

“Family is family, right?" says Bushby.
"They're always going to be there. But there will be strain. There will be distance. So much so that you've grown apart to some degree. You don't really know each other anymore”

i find this sad. Family isn’t always going you be there and his decision to walk the world will have been the reason there is strain.

True, people who think of family as fixed points like that are only looking at it through their own lens too. Family are individuals with beating hearts and their own lives and development, not people who he can list on his fingers as family but not see. Not fixed points.

It's sad for his family and a shame his legacy to his child is to miss that most wonderful, fleeting part of their life: childhood. My husband and I had our son at 35 and travelled a ton in our 20s and early 30s, took a year travelling the world then loads of long distance hikes in deep nature where everything had to be carried on your back. It was magic, but so is raising our child. This bloke is a selfish fool. He can dress it up any which way he likes but the fact remains he wasn't there for the child he created.

BlueStripeBowl · Today 09:00

AudHvamm · Today 08:57

Yes this is a quote Guardian article earlier this month:

"In his early 20s, stationed in Northern Ireland, he married a Belfast woman, yet another Angela. Five years later, when they were living in Hampshire, they divorced. She returned home to Belfast with their young son, Adam. At the time, servicemen were only allowed into Northern Ireland if they were serving there, so Bushby was effectively separated from Adam."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2026/oct/13/karl-bushby-incredible-28-year-walk-home-goliath-expedition-hull

I thought this piece left enough space around descriptions of his motives and behaviours to highlight the ambiguity of it all.

Edited

Why did they divorce? Why did she move?

Why would a mother in a healthy and supportive co-parenting situation move her son to a different country and make it difficult for them to have contact?

Why is the biggest question here.

May be she did it for nefarious reasons and he’s a victim of circumstance but I doubt that highly.

BlueStripeBowl · Today 09:01

tomorrowfollowstoday · Today 08:59

This isn't an opinion piece.

This man did a thing. His family situation is not my business.

And what kind of article do you think it would be if this was a mother?

Seziah · Today 09:02

I think it would be a different angle if he were a woman, most wouldn’t get to or want to do what he’s done. I should think his wife and son were probably better off without him. A good father obviously doesn’t fuck off for years.

It’s old news now but I read about this woman yesterday. She breastfed three times during a 100k race and won. I think that is amazing and worth celebrating.

Runner hopes to inspire by breastfeeding in 60-mile race win

Stephanie Case, who has blonde-streaked brown hair in a ponytail with sunglasses on top of her head and is wearing an orange running top, sits breastfeeding her daughter Pepper outdoors. She is smiling at someone to the left of the camera. Two people's...

Runner hopes to inspire after breastfeeding in 60-mile race win

Women who have run ultramarathons shortly after birth say all new mums should keep active.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced27dvjl97o