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Neighbour's autistic son, sleep deprivation and health/housing impacts.

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Anonymousaurus · 28/10/2026 17:05

I am in a desperate situation and would be grateful for any advice anyone may have. I think I've included everything but please feel free to ask if I've missed any details. Sorry it's ended up so long, there wasn't really a brief way to give full context.

I live in a mid-terrace house which I privately rent, my two children (10 and 12) are with me 50% of the time and we have lived here almost 5 years. Last August, a lady bought the house next door and moved in with her autistic son. I would guess he is around 8, but it's hard to tell as he is still in nappies. He is non-verbal and I believe also visually impaired. He makes loud, vocal stimming noises almost constantly whenever he is awake.

For context as I know I'll be asked, I know he is autistic because shortly after they moved in, while I was out for the day, someone came into my garden and added an extension panel to the top of my fence. When I came back home and went outside, the child's grandmother came out to the end of my garden and told me they'd had to do that and affix it from my side of the fence because her grandson is autistic and he climbs things.

The issue I am having is that the child wakes frequently almost every night, and very often for several hours right through til morning. I am woken almost every single night by extremely loud banging which I believe to be his bedframe slamming into the wall when he jumps on the bed. This also sends vibrations through my floor so I can hear and feel it. He also bangs on the window (I have seen this from my garden), rattles the door (I think he is locked in overnight for safety) drags things across the wall, bangs toys into the window and shrieks and cries. It goes on for hours. I very rarely hear anyone go into his room to settle him, but whether they do or not makes no difference to the noise.

I have tried various types of earplugs, white noise machine, having a fan in my room, opening the window and nothing even remotely dampens the noise. Using ear plugs only puts me at risk of missing my alarm and not getting my children to school on time, it certainly does not help me sleep.

Often after a bad night I finally drift off to sleep, only to be woken again shortly after by very loud banging any time from before 6am and this continues usually until well after 9am. Obviously this only applies to weekends and school holidays, during term time I have had to drive my children to school (20 mins away) on no sleep whatsoever on many occasions. I'm very worried about having an accident.

The very bad nights where he is awake anywhere from between midnight and 2am until my alarm goes off are around once a week on average, though sometimes there are clusters of nights like that one after the other. He also takes several hours to go to sleep each evening, with loud banging, crying and shrieking beginning at around 6pm and usually not stopping until after 9pm. I have to delay putting my own children to bed until about 20 minutes after the noise has stopped in case we wake him and it starts all over again. I am woken up by banging at least once pretty much every night, but the anxiety I experience around going to bed is now so severe that I often can't sleep for hours even if he makes little to no noise after he has gone to sleep.

I have tried sleeping in my lounge but as our bedrooms and the lounge are on the adjoining wall, all of the noise he makes travels up or down wherever he is and it is basically just as loud down there. It sounds as though he is inside the walls in my house during the day. When he plays in his room, there is scratching, tapping and banging along with vocal stimming which seems to go on all day. He goes into the garden when it isn't raining but the vocal stimming seems to be even louder when he is out there and he also throws stones and knocks them on the fence which is also noisy. I get absolutely no peace unless I put music or white noise on, but this has to be so loud to drown him out that it's not really relaxing.

On top of this, the boy's mother has a partner who got himself a Rottweiler puppy at the start of this year. He obviously cannot have the dog with him while he works, and so he drops the dog off at my neighbour's house in the mornings, usually when I am leaving to drive my children to school and the neighbour is putting the child into the taxi to go to school. The dog barks a great deal throughout the day, especially when he is left on his own which seems to happen at least once a day for various lengths of time, and it isn't collected until around 5-6pm. This means I cannot catch up on sleep during the day.

I have lupus which is a chronic autoimmune condition which causes inflammation, chronic fatigue, pain in my muscles and joints and many other symptoms. Inflammation is triggered primarily by illness, lack of sleep and stress. I went off sick from my job because the sleep deprivation was so bad I could not function, and was enevtually sacked at the start of this year because I could not provide a satisfactory answer when asked when I thought my health would improve, because the neighbours aren't going anywhere. I am now at risk of eviction as I have defaulted on my rent.

I have tried all available avenues to get support and advice but it seems I have absolutely no rights in this situation. My landlady isn't responsible for the noise which I do understand, so she won't consider soundproofing as it would cost her money and reduce the value of the property, she also won't negotiate my rent. As the noise is coming from a disabled child as opposed to 'nuisance noise' the police aren't interested. My landlady advised me to report my neighbour to the council, which would require me to take recordings over a period of time and submit them for review, after which the council may send a noise abatement order to the property. I am skeptical that this would achieve any meaningful resolution as the neighbour is already aware how this is impacting me and I highly doubt anything can be done to stop the child from doing what he is doing. The mother smokes weed during the day, I can smell it before I've even opened my car door when I get back from the school run and it's seeping through the wall into my kitchen at the back of the house, and it seems she is able to sleep through or ignore the noise for hours. I believe the child is being locked in his room and ignored throughout the night most of the time, but the police and social services don't seem to think this is a problem.

I had to contact social services on a couple of occasions during the summer. On one occasion I could hear the mother screaming and swearing at the child to shut up for a sustained period of time from around 3-4am. This was during the very hot period when everyone's windows were open at night and I expect everyone in my terrace heard. Later that week, after being kept awake all night, I went to get my cat in from the garden at 7am and saw the child had removed his nappy and was standing on the windowsill fully naked slamming on the glass and shrieking out of the top window. Behind the row of terrace houses where I live is a public thoroughfare which many people use to access the high street and train station, so a lot of people could have seen him as he wasn't let out of his room for a further 2 or more hours as is normal on non-school days.

A couple of nights ago I called the police at 2.30am because the banging and crying was far louder and more persistent than I'd ever heard before. They attended the property, knocked on the door but my neighbour didn't answer, so they left. The noise continued for several more hours. At 4am I spoke to the officer who had attended the property and he told me that unless they are aware that someone is definitely at risk of death, they aren't authorised to break down the door or even knock more aggressively. As they couldn't hear the noise from the front of the property (his bedroom is at the back of the house) they left and would not come back. I explained that the screaming and banging had been going on for over 2 hours and I was concerned it was far louder than ever before but was told that doesn't constitute an emergency. The following day the boy still appeared to be in his bedroom all the way through to the evening. I called 101 to report that I believed the child had been locked in his room since the previous evening but they weren't really interested.

I am at my wits end and have been contemplating taking my own life. I have PTSD from highly traumatic birth injury when my daughter was born, and when I am woken in the night by the loud banging, my nervous system reacts as if someone is breaking into my home. I have started experiencing chest pains during the night for the past 3 months and I have frequent panic attacks during the day because I get absolutely no break from the noise whether it's the child or the dog. I have posted polite requests through the neighbour's door twice, the first time asking if she could possibly move her son's bed away from the wall, and the second time requesting that she ask her partner to make alternative arrangements for his dog during the day if he is unable to take it to work with him, but neither of these have been responded to even though I provided my number and no action has been taken to change anything as far as I can tell. The noise has actually gotten worse.

My parents are my guarantors and since I defaulted on my rent they have been required to pay this for me. They are now pressuring me to give notice to my landlady so that they can get out of this contract, but I have nowhere else to go because without being able to get my health back on track, I cannot return to work.

Moving in with my parents is not an option for me because I would be nowhere near my children and I do not have a good relationship with them. We are essentially estranged and moving in with them would almost certainly see my already very fragile mental health declining even further very quickly. They agreed to be my guarantors five years ago as I was financially stable and this sort of situation just didn't even cross our minds. We have barely seen each other since then.

For the first time in my life I am receiving universal credit and am currently applying for PIP under the advice of several people I've spoken to at the DWP. I had never previously considered that I might be eligible for PIP nor had I even wanted to investigate this as I had been managing very well as a single parent working full-time from home until this family moved in. I feel incredibly guilty to be receiving benefits of any kind but unfortunately the impact of the sleep deprivation that this child has caused has been profound and I see absolutely no way of improving the situation while I'm still living in this house. I cannot leave the house to go to another private rental because my parents will not agree to be my guarantors again, which I can perfectly understand but it does sting as I did nothing irresponsible to get myself into this situation. I cannot afford to live anywhere else in this area anyway now that I am relying solely on UC, and so the only private rentals I would be able to find would likely be one bedroom flats or studios.

I have looked into how I might get myself on the social housing list but it seems that the only way to do this while privately renting is to be at risk of eviction. Since I have a guarantor, I don't think that my landlady is going to go down the eviction route, as legally she can continue to demand that my parents pay the rent for me and they are obliged to do so, otherwise she can take them to court.

I know the child is disabled, but I am now a burden on the state when I never needed to be, and there seems to be absolutely no route to a way out of this situation for me, that can't be right surely? Am I missing something? I do understand that his mum's life must be very difficult indeed, but she does not seem to be intervening when he is waking during the night at all for whatever reason, or even trying to stop him from banging things into the wall. I do not understand the rationale of moving into a mid-terraced house and not even giving the new neighbours a courtesy knock on the door to explain what they are going to be in for. I have tried so hard to be patient and understanding, it took me more than 6 months to raise any kind of complaint with my landlady or the neighbour because I wanted to be compassionate to their situation and give time for the child to settle, but the sleep deprivation has gotten worse and worse as time has gone on and nothing is being done about it, this is simply not sustainable.

Does anyone have any advice at all, for any part of my situation or the whole thing? I am honestly at breaking point and not very far away at all from harming myself.

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ExpectMore · Yesterday 10:33

Walkden · Yesterday 10:08

"Do you think that because her child is disabled she has the right to make the house next door completely inhospitable?"

Well it's not like she is doing it deliberately is it? The child has severe issues and they do have a right to a place to live. Noise abatement orders won't help in this case because it is largely the child making the noise and it's not like he is doing it with any malice or can help it.

presumably she could explore noise proofing her house, moving the child to a bed room that isn’t adjacent to a neighbour, using sedatives to calm him, seeing if there are any residential placement options, not exasperating the situation by having a dog that barks all day, not letting the child do things that causes others to have concern for their welfare.

There’s plenty of things she could be doing that based upon OPs post doesn’t seem to be.

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:33

ExpectMore · Yesterday 10:28

Is there no way to force a home owner to move if they’re being antisocial? If not, it feels like a flaw in the system.

But she isn't being antisocial. She has a disabled child. The dog I can't understand, it's an additional burden on her that she's taken on voluntarily. But the main issue is the nighttime noise and it isn't classed as antisocial.

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Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:35

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 08:01

“Quiet enjoyment” is nothing to do with quiet! It’s more along the lines of title - ie the right to exclusive occupation - and the landlord not interfering. Nothing to do with noisy neighbours

Yep that's right. Quiet enjoyment just means my landlady cannot come to the property without 24 hours notice and good reason and stuff like that. It has nothing at all to do with quiet enjoyment of my home day to day in the literal sense.

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x2boys · Yesterday 10:36

ExpectMore · Yesterday 10:28

Is there no way to force a home owner to move if they’re being antisocial? If not, it feels like a flaw in the system.

A disabled child cant help their noise
And the nouise would continue where ever they moved too.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:37

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:33

But she isn't being antisocial. She has a disabled child. The dog I can't understand, it's an additional burden on her that she's taken on voluntarily. But the main issue is the nighttime noise and it isn't classed as antisocial.

@Anonymousaurus - a poster upthread said to go to GP and that a very low dose of quetiapine works for her. I would reiterate this. You are on the edge/falling into a chasm you won’t readily be able to get out of. A medication like quetiapine should give you some respite/sleep and quieten the dark thoughts you’ve been having. Don’t be put off that it’s labelled as an antipsychotic - just do whatever it takes to cling on to some shreds of sanity

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:38

Itsthewoluff · Yesterday 10:03

🤦‍♀️

op people just aren’t getting it.

I know. Didn't expect them to, it's a very niche situation and if you've not lived in it then it must sound incredibly simple to fix. I did think I'd explained all of the reason why that isn't the case...

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:39

Also to add (and I know this sounds ‘off’): can you sleep in with the children (where it’s presumably quieter) or even swap bedrooms?

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:40

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:37

@Anonymousaurus - a poster upthread said to go to GP and that a very low dose of quetiapine works for her. I would reiterate this. You are on the edge/falling into a chasm you won’t readily be able to get out of. A medication like quetiapine should give you some respite/sleep and quieten the dark thoughts you’ve been having. Don’t be put off that it’s labelled as an antipsychotic - just do whatever it takes to cling on to some shreds of sanity

I'll have to check if there are contraindications with my current medications. I can't take SSRIs, I react badly to them so very hesitant to add more medications that may take time to adjust to and titrate when I'm already feeling like this. But thank you I will investigate.

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AnnaQuayRules · Yesterday 10:40

This sounds horrendous. I've no advice to add OP but agree with others that a 1 bed flat would be preferable

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:40

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:39

Also to add (and I know this sounds ‘off’): can you sleep in with the children (where it’s presumably quieter) or even swap bedrooms?

I have tried sleeping in every room in the house barring the bath. I can hear the child everywhere.

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MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:44

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:40

I'll have to check if there are contraindications with my current medications. I can't take SSRIs, I react badly to them so very hesitant to add more medications that may take time to adjust to and titrate when I'm already feeling like this. But thank you I will investigate.

These are different to SSRIs. Also, they kick in within a matter of hours (rather than weeks). They’re not a magic bullet/silver bullet (?) but might give al you a respite so that a catastrophically awful situation that is beyond unbearable and damaging your physical and mental health just becomes intolerable and really awful. IYSWIM. But go to GP. If necessary, present at A&E if/when you experience suicidal ideation.

NNTR if it’s disclosing personal stuff - but are you London based?

x2boys · Yesterday 10:45

hifriend · Yesterday 08:02

I didn't ask why, I asked if they had said it doesn’t meet the threshold. She has said the child appears to be locked in their room for long periods and screamed at and threatened, those are the parts I think could be safeguarding concerns, not the noise from the child themselves.

Social services wont discuss Anything with a neighbour t
They may well be involved but they wont be telling this to the Op .

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:48

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:40

I have tried sleeping in every room in the house barring the bath. I can hear the child everywhere.

It may be then that heavy duty medication like quetiapine (or even olanzapine) may give you some respite and enable sleep. (I challenge you not to sleep in Olanzapine!). Some of these medications can cause significant weight gain (olanzapine) but I suspect this isn’t really an issue for you at the moment

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:48

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:44

These are different to SSRIs. Also, they kick in within a matter of hours (rather than weeks). They’re not a magic bullet/silver bullet (?) but might give al you a respite so that a catastrophically awful situation that is beyond unbearable and damaging your physical and mental health just becomes intolerable and really awful. IYSWIM. But go to GP. If necessary, present at A&E if/when you experience suicidal ideation.

NNTR if it’s disclosing personal stuff - but are you London based?

Thank you. I'm in Kent. A lot of my health stuff is managed at a London hospital though.

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Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:49

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:48

It may be then that heavy duty medication like quetiapine (or even olanzapine) may give you some respite and enable sleep. (I challenge you not to sleep in Olanzapine!). Some of these medications can cause significant weight gain (olanzapine) but I suspect this isn’t really an issue for you at the moment

I can't take anything that makes me gain weight because my joints are already under strain because of lupus. I was once put on propanol for acute anxiety and I gained a lot of weight in under 2 weeks.

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x2boys · Yesterday 10:51

ExpectMore · Yesterday 10:33

presumably she could explore noise proofing her house, moving the child to a bed room that isn’t adjacent to a neighbour, using sedatives to calm him, seeing if there are any residential placement options, not exasperating the situation by having a dog that barks all day, not letting the child do things that causes others to have concern for their welfare.

There’s plenty of things she could be doing that based upon OPs post doesn’t seem to be.

Residential placements are few and far between .
Abd we dont lock disabled childdren up anymore
My own loud disabled child is currently sat next to me giving me cuddles and is very loved im not goung to be sending him away anytime soon HTH.

mummymeister · Yesterday 10:52

@Anonymousaurus I GET IT! I used to be an Environmental health officer speciailising in noise nuisance issues for over 25 years. So lets unpack this:
dog barking - this can and is often a statutory nuisance. the "test" we used to use was does it bark for more than 20 minutes continuously. If yes, then the person in control of the dog needs to make them stop. The councils Env health department would need proof of this but you can start by talking to the council dog warden and go from there.

neighbourhood noise - any noise can be considered a statutory noise nuisance within the definition of the law. I have served notices on and prosecuted all sorts of noise nuisances and this could be considered a stat noise nuisance based on its duration, time of occurence and levels. but, only your local eho can determine this. so you need to make contact with them explain the problem and as of now start keeping a diary. EVERY SINGLE TIME. they make a noise that you can hear log the duration, start and stop time, what you can actually hear (especially if its words) and what effect this has on you ie woken from sleep, couldnt get back to sleep, felt anxious, couldnt hear the tv over it etc.

Sound insulation measures are incredibly expensive when fitted retrospectively if they are to be effective. small things like having good carpet and underlay can help with impact noise but airborne noise is structural and it means isolating and insulating every single structural element - ie the ends of floor joists as they go into the wall. So this is not a road that either of you can afford to go down.

I am not unsympathetic the parents and others in the household know the situation but they must be encouraged to do more to reduce the impact on you. Ultimately if the EHO decides its a statutory noise nuisance they can serve a notice and then its up to the recipient to comply. These situations are never easy because of the emotional component but contact the dog warden, contact the local eho and get them round to talk to you. but most importantly start keeping records. and finally if the eho cant/wont act, you can take your own action at law under what used to be called Section 99. sorry this has been such a long post but wanted to get as much detail in as I could.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:55

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:48

Thank you. I'm in Kent. A lot of my health stuff is managed at a London hospital though.

I don’t know Kent so am speaking to London (sorry) - but your GP (or A&E) can do immediate referrals to the Crisis team (mental health) who will or can do daily meet ups with you. Doesn’t have to be in hospital at your home, can be in a neutral space. They can see how you’re doing with the medication and be a safe space.

None of this deals with what’s causing tbe degradation in your mental and physical health but could be something that gets you to getting some sleep and a breathing space. You won’t be the first person they’ve driven beyond despair by intolerable living conditions and may have some insights posters here (including myself) don’t have!
If your hospital happens to be St Thomas’s, might be worth speaking to them

TobaccoFlower · Yesterday 10:55

Sounds hellish OP. I feel for you.

ExpectMore · Yesterday 10:56

x2boys · Yesterday 10:51

Residential placements are few and far between .
Abd we dont lock disabled childdren up anymore
My own loud disabled child is currently sat next to me giving me cuddles and is very loved im not goung to be sending him away anytime soon HTH.

Somewhat ironically the mother hasn’t got that memo as she seems to be locking her child up at home

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:57

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 10:49

I can't take anything that makes me gain weight because my joints are already under strain because of lupus. I was once put on propanol for acute anxiety and I gained a lot of weight in under 2 weeks.

Then your doctor can advise on that (in conjunction with relevant specialist). Quetiapine tends to be a non weight gaining option. But I think you are in crisis and urgently need medical help as a stopgap measure

Skdkhvyvrhej · Yesterday 10:57

You HAVE to move.

Thats the only option.

So now you need to work through those options.

On the council wait list. On the private rent what you can afford on UC. On housing association lists.

If your this tired you need to just make this your one goal. Nothing else. Just this!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · Yesterday 10:59

mummymeister · Yesterday 10:52

@Anonymousaurus I GET IT! I used to be an Environmental health officer speciailising in noise nuisance issues for over 25 years. So lets unpack this:
dog barking - this can and is often a statutory nuisance. the "test" we used to use was does it bark for more than 20 minutes continuously. If yes, then the person in control of the dog needs to make them stop. The councils Env health department would need proof of this but you can start by talking to the council dog warden and go from there.

neighbourhood noise - any noise can be considered a statutory noise nuisance within the definition of the law. I have served notices on and prosecuted all sorts of noise nuisances and this could be considered a stat noise nuisance based on its duration, time of occurence and levels. but, only your local eho can determine this. so you need to make contact with them explain the problem and as of now start keeping a diary. EVERY SINGLE TIME. they make a noise that you can hear log the duration, start and stop time, what you can actually hear (especially if its words) and what effect this has on you ie woken from sleep, couldnt get back to sleep, felt anxious, couldnt hear the tv over it etc.

Sound insulation measures are incredibly expensive when fitted retrospectively if they are to be effective. small things like having good carpet and underlay can help with impact noise but airborne noise is structural and it means isolating and insulating every single structural element - ie the ends of floor joists as they go into the wall. So this is not a road that either of you can afford to go down.

I am not unsympathetic the parents and others in the household know the situation but they must be encouraged to do more to reduce the impact on you. Ultimately if the EHO decides its a statutory noise nuisance they can serve a notice and then its up to the recipient to comply. These situations are never easy because of the emotional component but contact the dog warden, contact the local eho and get them round to talk to you. but most importantly start keeping records. and finally if the eho cant/wont act, you can take your own action at law under what used to be called Section 99. sorry this has been such a long post but wanted to get as much detail in as I could.

That’s a very helpful post from a specialist!

Anonymousaurus · Yesterday 11:12

mummymeister · Yesterday 10:52

@Anonymousaurus I GET IT! I used to be an Environmental health officer speciailising in noise nuisance issues for over 25 years. So lets unpack this:
dog barking - this can and is often a statutory nuisance. the "test" we used to use was does it bark for more than 20 minutes continuously. If yes, then the person in control of the dog needs to make them stop. The councils Env health department would need proof of this but you can start by talking to the council dog warden and go from there.

neighbourhood noise - any noise can be considered a statutory noise nuisance within the definition of the law. I have served notices on and prosecuted all sorts of noise nuisances and this could be considered a stat noise nuisance based on its duration, time of occurence and levels. but, only your local eho can determine this. so you need to make contact with them explain the problem and as of now start keeping a diary. EVERY SINGLE TIME. they make a noise that you can hear log the duration, start and stop time, what you can actually hear (especially if its words) and what effect this has on you ie woken from sleep, couldnt get back to sleep, felt anxious, couldnt hear the tv over it etc.

Sound insulation measures are incredibly expensive when fitted retrospectively if they are to be effective. small things like having good carpet and underlay can help with impact noise but airborne noise is structural and it means isolating and insulating every single structural element - ie the ends of floor joists as they go into the wall. So this is not a road that either of you can afford to go down.

I am not unsympathetic the parents and others in the household know the situation but they must be encouraged to do more to reduce the impact on you. Ultimately if the EHO decides its a statutory noise nuisance they can serve a notice and then its up to the recipient to comply. These situations are never easy because of the emotional component but contact the dog warden, contact the local eho and get them round to talk to you. but most importantly start keeping records. and finally if the eho cant/wont act, you can take your own action at law under what used to be called Section 99. sorry this has been such a long post but wanted to get as much detail in as I could.

Thank you so much for taking the time that is all really helpful to know.

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · Yesterday 11:15

ExpectMore · Yesterday 10:56

Somewhat ironically the mother hasn’t got that memo as she seems to be locking her child up at home

We don't know what is going on in the neighbours home.

My son goes to a specialist school and I was talking to a mum with twins who goes here and they have safe beds, and were told that they would minimise noise once fitted but she said there's absolutely no difference in noise, if anything it's worse.

There are situations where the safest option is to make sure the child is in an enclosed space for their safety whether that's a safe bed or their own room.

This could be because of extreme behavioural activity, pika, elopement, rest needs, etc.

We only know the OP thinks the child is being locked in a room, which might be true, but we don't know why.

Unless you've got a very high needs autistic child and are a single parent you just don't know what you need to do to get through the day. Restraint should be an absolute last resort but in some cases it is the only path that can be taken at that time and excessive nighttime activity may warrant it.

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