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To make my 19yo son use bathroom on other floor

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UnfilteredMum · Yesterday 00:05

Due to the set up of our house - a 3 storey townhouse - I've let one son share my en-suite bathroom for the past few years, rather than go down to the floor below to use the bathroom.

I'm single and haven't ever been that bothered about having my own space - for most of my kids' lives we had one bathroom and I didn't even have my own bedroom.
However, he's 19 now, often moody, often wanting to be on his own (though telling me not to take that personally); and really insistent that he needs to play music or other audio to get going in the morning.

It has started to really bother me to have him going through my room and then playing music in the ensuite.

He told me he would find it very difficult to use the downstairs bathroom, for various reasons - some of which I sympathised with - so I tried to put up with it, but I have had enough now and want him to switch.

Am I being unreasonable, and more importantly, does anyone have any wisdom or compromises to offer on how to handle this?

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Hamsara · Yesterday 10:58

It's a fair challenge but to me I think it strengthens the case for swapping rooms with his brother rather than taking over the master suite.

Hoork · Yesterday 10:59

Headphones?

momager22 · Yesterday 11:13

Nope, put a lock on your door if needed and tell him he needs to use the downstairs bathroom like a grown up instead of waking you up and disturbing your sleep. Sounds like he has other bathroom all to himself most of the time anyway.
Tell him he needs to wear a robe to go downstairs if he sleeps naked. Bed wetting doesn’t make a difference which bathroom he uses surely ?

AbouttimeIhadanewusername · Yesterday 11:17

ElfAndSafetyBored · Yesterday 00:16

i’d let it go for now. It won’t be forever. He’s your lad.

with this attitude you will bring up a son who no woman wants to live with.

ExcitableCat · Yesterday 11:21

GoodGirlFaith · Yesterday 00:10

Personally, I’d swop bedrooms with him. In fact, I would probably have given him that bedroom in the first place.

Agree

user1492757084 · Yesterday 11:27

There are two bathrooms and two adults. Time you both had independence.
Can you shift DS's bedroom to nearer the down stairs shower room?
Re organise the rooms to suit yourself.
Ask DS to help move furniture about.
Claim your privacy.

MeridianB · Yesterday 12:15

I agree with other posters saying he is putting himself first at your expense. He’s massively overstepping and you’re in boiled frog territory as it’s been going on so long.

Between the bathroom nonsense (and his behaviour and rationale really are nonsense) and the ‘you should be grateful I’m not on drugs’ it’s all sounding horribly manosphere.

SoVeryVeryBored · Yesterday 12:29

UnfilteredMum · Yesterday 01:06

People who said I should share the issues - yes, fair point, sorry I was just trying to not make post too long, plus it's embarrassing.

  1. He still wets the bad fairly often. (Yes, we've sought help but still happens.) We have great water-absorbing mats, but he says he sleeps naked sometimes to save laundry.
  2. He described himself as a germophobe and not happy with other son's standards of hygiene/cleanliness who was using that bathroom - however other son started Uni now, and we have cleaners - it is always pretty clean.
  3. I have support workers come some days to help me, or people visit whom I am supporting and he is shy of them - he calls them 'random strangers in the house', and particularly doesn't want them to see him after bed-wetting, or coming out of shower. They never come early morning though, and mostly stay downstairs with me, except if cleaning.
  4. He has said he thinks he might have ADHD/ Autism/Borderline Personality Disorder. I think the first two are quite possible, BPD unlikely. He's also said - when we did talk about playing music - that he has very negative thoughts each morning and uses music and nice showers* to block them and get going. However he hasn't sought out help for these things - he just thinks I should make allowance for his need for music and for me leaving him alone when he wants.
  5. He is working with very challenging kids and meanwhile trying to go pro basketball - so he says I should be grateful he's not doing drugs/getting girls pregnant/etc like some 19 year olds, instead of complaining about his music or minor issues.

*the lower floor shower is decent, better than I grew up with or he grew up with, but the top floor shower is very nice.

To be honest @UnfilteredMum all of this makes him sound even more insensitive and unreasonable. He basically doesn’t want to do anything about any of his concerns and for you to just put up and shut up, your feelings don’t matter to him.

Nicely, it is time for him to start assuming the life of a grown up, and that involves him not trail unannounced through him mums bedroom and disturbing her morning peace- no idea why his need for music should take priority over your need for quiet, your my is important too.

Gentle conversation time and for him to start transit to a grown up relationship if he wants to live at home. Does he pay rent & contribute to chores?

Mildmanneredonoccasion · Yesterday 14:42

I think an en-suite would be very, very helpful to a (possibly) autistic bedwetter who’s also a germophobe. It must be very difficult for him.
Also wondering if a room swap with his brother would help at all?

ElfAndSafetyBored · Yesterday 18:02

AbouttimeIhadanewusername · Yesterday 11:17

with this attitude you will bring up a son who no woman wants to live with.

To be honest, with some of the things some men are reported on this board as having done or said, I think playing music in a shower is small fry.

AbouttimeIhadanewusername · Yesterday 18:08

ElfAndSafetyBored · Yesterday 18:02

To be honest, with some of the things some men are reported on this board as having done or said, I think playing music in a shower is small fry.

It wasn’t just playing music was it? It was taking over his mother’s en-suite and refusing to go to a bathroom on another floor.

LouisFuton · Yesterday 18:11

Time for a lock on your bedroom door

Longtimelurker1980 · Yesterday 18:14

UnfilteredMum · Yesterday 01:06

People who said I should share the issues - yes, fair point, sorry I was just trying to not make post too long, plus it's embarrassing.

  1. He still wets the bad fairly often. (Yes, we've sought help but still happens.) We have great water-absorbing mats, but he says he sleeps naked sometimes to save laundry.
  2. He described himself as a germophobe and not happy with other son's standards of hygiene/cleanliness who was using that bathroom - however other son started Uni now, and we have cleaners - it is always pretty clean.
  3. I have support workers come some days to help me, or people visit whom I am supporting and he is shy of them - he calls them 'random strangers in the house', and particularly doesn't want them to see him after bed-wetting, or coming out of shower. They never come early morning though, and mostly stay downstairs with me, except if cleaning.
  4. He has said he thinks he might have ADHD/ Autism/Borderline Personality Disorder. I think the first two are quite possible, BPD unlikely. He's also said - when we did talk about playing music - that he has very negative thoughts each morning and uses music and nice showers* to block them and get going. However he hasn't sought out help for these things - he just thinks I should make allowance for his need for music and for me leaving him alone when he wants.
  5. He is working with very challenging kids and meanwhile trying to go pro basketball - so he says I should be grateful he's not doing drugs/getting girls pregnant/etc like some 19 year olds, instead of complaining about his music or minor issues.

*the lower floor shower is decent, better than I grew up with or he grew up with, but the top floor shower is very nice.

Gosh op, bedwetting at 19 is a serious issue and must be so demoralising for him. What treatments has he tried/been sought? I used to bed wet as a child and both my kids did too, it’s such an embarrassing issue at 8, never mind at 19. Sorting this needs to be prioritised? I’d also swap rooms for now so he has somewhere to put wet sheets etc in middle of night and a place to wash privately during night wets.

Rabbitinahabit · Yesterday 18:15

Does he walk into your room naked OP?

napody · Yesterday 18:21

Millytante · Yesterday 05:43

Nope, no way José. Still not a sufficiently compelling reason to deny yourself the pleasure of your own little sanctuary now.
Plus, he has a bloody nerve trying to set out his rules of engagement with you, as though you were running an AirB&B, and he was paying you a fortune. He should put up and shut up, frankly.

His problem is a separate matter, but I reiterate, he has no genuine need of your space at all; he’s just being princessy.
But he really has to strive to improve matters to some degree, such as ditching the reflexive urge to blame some Zeitgeisty syndrome or other to every niggle he experiences in his life
Labels aren’t always a great idea, and he risks sheltering behind them and rendering himself incapable of surviving as an adult out in the world, instead
remaining with you for good! Which is not on.

I think you should be as steely as you can manage right now because he sounds like he is developing very handy manipulation skills, whereas it’s other skills he will need when he moves out.

(No university though his brother’s going? How’s is that, in terms of vibes between them at home? Any friction? Has he finished with education now?)

I think you should be as steely as you can manage right now because he sounds like he is developing very handy manipulation skills, whereas it’s other skills he will need when he moves out.

Absolutely agree, and also with the other poster who points out that, although you should be kind to your kids, you need to be aware of the possible impact on a young man of being a doormat to him as a mother. The messages it sends.

Nlsa · Yesterday 19:26

Sounds like his physical and mental health is not great. I would not battle over this and just let him carry on as he is.

Springtimeinsunshine · Yesterday 21:09

Rabbitinahabit · Yesterday 18:15

Does he walk into your room naked OP?

Yes, this OP.

That is not normal. Does he knock/wait in case you are undressed or does he just walk in?

He needs to swap bedrooms with his brother, he needs to clean his own bathroom if he's a germaphobe, he needs to see his GP. But most of all he needs to see his manipulative tactics no longer work. Or he finds his own place to live.

Granville82 · Today 11:23

AbouttimeIhadanewusername · Yesterday 11:17

with this attitude you will bring up a son who no woman wants to live with.

Exactly this

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