Another neigbour getting a wood burner

[JoSFry]

Come on …. When will people wake up to the pollution these things cause!

Particulate matter from a log burning stove includes fine and ultrafine particles which are smaller than the PM 2.5 which is likely the lowest limit of your machine. This is true for gas too but then ypur machine is registering the emission for whatever you are cooking, which includes vocs.

Makes me laugh when people buy super modern houses with amazing epg rating. Heating systems that barely need to be used so any savings are far outweighed or non existant.

Then they go and put a dirty log burner in as some kind of middle class statement of how green and down with it they are.

Out in the sticks i can understand it. Modern housing estate, they shouldnt be allowed. My house is properly insulated and requires hardly any heating even though we leave windows open to ensure air flow all year round.

SIL had one and you could tell after a while that it was nothing more than a dust magnet that gave them something to do when they fancied it. Thier new house doesnt have one.

I have an air purifier that I took with me to a property that relied on a wood burner for heating and although pollution levels are low when it's just running. The second you opened the door the pollution level would shoot up to scarily high.

I inherited one in this house 12 years ago. I don't use it that often, always Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, only buy kiln dried or seasoned wood to burn.

I've toyed with having it taken out but replacing with gas or electric will shoot my bills up plus the cost of removing it safely.

It does heat the ground floor quite well without putting the ch on so it is quite useful.

I've fancied one for ages and the new house we're doing up has two - and one in the cabin.
When my partner was staying there while the central heating put back in we thought that he would at least have one room. They don't even chuck out that much heat! He was freezing. They look pretty and the cost of fuel is insane, very expensive way to heat a home.

Don't see the appeal now and will probably remove them all as the fire surrounds are as ugly as sin.

My friend is a fireman - he says the majority of house fires they have been to this year have been started by electric bike batteries charging in the house. Risk is everywhere - you’re not really supposed to put the dishwasher or washing machine on and leave unattended, but most people don’t sit there watching their appliances finish the cycle.
Add in candles, hair straighteners, glass ornaments left in direct sunlight - it’s a wonder any of us still have houses still standing!

I love our wood burner, we buy local hardwood so as to reduce the carbon footprint. Im not convinced its any worse overall environmentally than a commercial gas supply.

We're about to get one installed. Can't wait.

Self sufficient? Only if you own enough woodland that you can harvest several trees every year while the rest keeps growing.

Wise idea to have an alternative heat source when there's a risk of energy issues and powercuts in the near future. We looked into getting a masonry stove but unfortunately there was an issue with our chimney and we can't add one (but can use wood in our boiler as its dual fuel - oil and wood)

I have asthma too and can't be lighting fires but have zero issues from all the smoke coming from my neighbours' chimneys from their masonry stoves and wood heated saunas.

How do you know it wasn’t traffic fumes settling on the streets in foggy weather setting off your asthma if you lived in a big city?

Now, for balance, tell us how many house fires he’s been to that didn’t involve a wood burner?

We have one, we only ever run it alongside an air purifier that filters out the correct sized particles and only kicks in when it sense the air is polluted. It only ever kicks in if my DH opens the door to add a log because he cannot do it properly. If you are skilled in managing it then it shouldn't be pumping out lots of smoke into the neighbourhood and you shouldn't be running through logs either. It does make me feel better to know that when we have powercuts we are still able to warm the house and potentially eat jacket potato!

My neighbour has a woodfire sauna though and that seems to smoke out the entire valley. I feel like buying him a place on a course so he can learn how to manage a fire properly. My guess is he is putting the logs in a bath before he lights them the amount of smoke that comes off it.

I have an air purifier beside my wood burner. It has only ever set it off once when we lit the fire badly on a damp day. It goes off all the time when we cook meat even though it’s in the next room. I need to cook less meat not get rid of the wood burner!

They are awful.

We've spent millions clearing the pollution from traffic from our cities, only to wreck them again by allowing this.

The problem is that not only are they wood burners, they are also any old shit burners.

People use them to burn all sorts of nasty stuff that generates toxic smoke.

In rural areas they are less bad because they are relatively dispersed, but in cities the concentrated smoke and toxic fumes are a public nuisance.

I think they should be banned where mains gas is available and policed a lot more stringently. They are a public nuisance and health hazard.

I think the govt are talking about having 3 days worth of supplies, not a while winters worth!

Has anyone got an air purifier and a wood burner I’d be interested to see what internal air is like - it does majorly mess up external air

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Oh dear, looks like you will have to move now.

I'm having a multi fuel stove put in 2 weeks, can't wait.
Oh, and I have fully functioning central heating, so you can hate me as much as you like.
However, I live in a village where most houses and pretty much everyone on my road have them, and I don't have kids, so everyone can sleep peacefully at night knowing that it's only my respiratory system that I will be 'damaging' 🙄

According to the news we are on the brink of war so I'm sure we have bigger problems and won't have the chance to die from the lung cancer or whatever else anyway.

my purifier only goes on if you open the door and let smoke waft out by poking at the fire for too long. It clears the room in 10 mins too.

However the purifier does go off with household cleaning products. Spray a bit of antibac 2 rooms away and I can hear it kick in. I've switched to white vinegar where I can to clean now because of this.

Might light mine tonight if this rain continues…

I love my defra approved wood burner and we’re still burning wood from trees we chopped down in our garden 7 years ago. It’s free heat from a completely renewable source.

After the first 15 minutes or so you can’t even smell mine outside.

Love ours. It's new so up to date in terms of emissions etc.

Keep our wood dry, ensure it's seasoned. Don't use coal.

Some of our neighbours fires smell a lot more than ours - not sure if its the wood burner itself, or if they have an open fire (that the houses were all originally built with), or if it's what they are burning. But I'm happy that we are doing OK.

Very useful our way - power cuts are real.

So that means people are suffering externally. Especially young lungs are are a school road and the wood burner brigade are a plenty on this road.

You can get external air filters for them, in the same way as you can get cats for cars.

But people don't buy them. Because of course they cost extra money.

The government should of course make them mandatory.

We heat as much as possible with ours. With the price of fuel and all. We are in a rural area, not many people here don't have one.

We're looking at an outdoor furnace this going in before Christmas. With 10 acres of trees it's crazy to pay for oil.