10 year olds more likely to be on disability benefits than 50 year olds

[AgeingMillennial]

AIBU to think this is absolutely baffling? And at some point we really have to investigate why so many young children are non verbal, have severe emotional regulation problems etc?

Not 30 years ago, 10-15 years ago. 2015 wasn’t the dark ages.

Well yes. People seek diagnosis for these things alot more now because they get many many benefits in doing so.

Anxiety in young people
non verbal autism

I think you need to acknowledge 10 times the number you initially said is a big jump! And 1 in 11 is roughly what I’ve been saying!

I have some ideas

I don’t think they would lie about it. They have never needed to provide the same level of evidence since the initial claim.

I have no experience of CDP, only DLA/PIP but PIP does have rules around safety, reliability, reasonable time frames and pain/discomfort. Assessors also have to consider the knock on effects of one activity on another. For example if getting showered and dressed leaves you so tired you would have to rest before doing anything else.

I’ve successfully argued at appeal using the 50% rule - which basically says that to be considered capable of carrying out any activity you must be able to do it for at least 50% of the time. I’m assuming that there will be the same type of safeguards around CDP. Would that help if the type of support she needs is sporadic ?

Which are?

MrsMurphyIWish · Today 20:02
DS is 12. We don’t know why he is autistic - could be genetic but I don’t really know my birth family history but it could down to the fact as he was premature, a knot in the cord and a the cord wrapped around his neck. He would have died decades ago.

My post @AgeingMillennial. DS born 2014. Am assuming there are others like him due to medical intervention.

How offenesive my severly autistic non verbal teen has never been interested in screens
His rare chromosome disorder however is far more likely to be the reason for his complex disabillities

I think environmental toxins

There is actually a very significant number of peer-reviewed research studies about the effects of nutrition (or lack of it) in autism. Off the top of my head, nutrients that have been shown to have benefit in reducing symptoms or improving quality of life include vitamin D, magnesium, vitamin B1, vitamin B6, vitamin B12, folate, betaine/TMG, choline, carnitine, creatine, zinc. I'm sure there are many others. My ASD DC lost about 50% of their diagnosed speech disorder overnight with B12 supplementation. They stopped needing speech therapy due to improvements from supplementing zinc.

But even though this stuff is known about, no-one seems to care enough to do anything about it.

I would bet that the need to have 2 working parents has had a negative effect on many children's nutrition compared with a time when one parent was more likely to be at home all or some of the time and was able to cook from scratch.

I understand life is tough, especially for the parents of a disabled child. I'm not sure what about my post you find offensive?

It's not just mental health rates that are up. For example, cancer in people under 30 is up as well.

What could explain that other than some sort of environmental factors?

It's not as if I'm inventing anything. Research has clearly linked the factors I mentioned with mental health outcomes.

If their child has improved, it clearly states on letters they receive that they should report a change in circumstances so I wouldn't be so sure about the lying part as they will know they should be reporting that her needs have changed.

Ok yes sorry missed a power of ten,

I do think you need to acknowledge in turn that there are detailed stats in this and you don’t need to rely on hearsay on social media.

the one in eleven is children getting pretty much any form of speech and language support in school though - I deliberately included all possible categories that might be non verbal.

in practice, at least half of those will be verbal and it’ll be issues like unclear pronunciation etc that speech and language are dealing with.

the data on non verbal autistic children isn’t detailed enough to look at the sorts of ages they tend to become verbal - I’ve certainly taught autistic children who became verbal at 7/8/9.

I wonder if local authority data might be more detailed. Hmm.

I obviously don't have one. I do have a brain, however, and can read.

What exactly are you pushing back on? I'm happy to provide sources.

Ok but even if slightly less than half are non verbal, that matches my 1 in 30 guess.

It’s many reasons.

More children are surviving conditions that wouldn’t be compatible with life previously. More prem babies are surviving.
More parents are starting to have children at older ages.
More medical interventions to create babies that would have never existed before.
within the U.K. itself as well cousin marriages have only recently started to decrease I believe which is a big thing for disabilities in children but for cultural reasons we are not meant to talk about that either.

Then you do have those that even if small get a legit diagnoses for one child and then suddenly every child they have has the exact same diagnosis when most smart people would of stopped having more children

The ones I’ve seen at school that are clearly Sen without even talking to the parents come in their McLaren major pushchairs, short shaved heads and holding an iPad. No idea why it seems to be the local uniform but it is.

Then there are the ones where I know the parent and the child mostly presents as NT with a few tweaks needed to be able to stay happily in school learning.

Lol anxiety in young people has not "spiked". There's been a huge campaign to encourage people to speak more about their mental health over recent years. Before that, we were all told to shut up. Stiff upper lip and all that.

Such as?

I disagree. It’s accepted now that poor mental health in young people has shot up.

The ones I’ve seen at school that are clearly Sen without even talking to the parents come in their McLaren major pushchairs, short shaved heads and holding an iPad. No idea why it seems to be the local uniform but it is.

Yes we have these as well! Do you mean the buggy with the big metal frame? Yes they’re also holding an iPad.

Ds1 has autism and adhd
Ds2 has autism
Ds3 has autism and adhd
Ds4 has moderate learning disabilities, cleft lip/palate, a reoccurring cyst, a benign tumour in one ear.
Ds5 has autism.

I understand DC4 but why wouldn’t the others have survived?

Yes that’s it. The children are all male. Always mum doing the grunt work never seen a dad pushing the pushchair.

I only really noticed as it’s like a uniform of them. Much like a group of trackie wearing lads would stand out.