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To ask how to avoid 2nd home rate stamp duty

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Stampdutywoes · Yesterday 13:22

Hear me out before you attack.

Currently living in rental property after splitting with ex partner. We own the home he is living in jointly.
The landlord of my rental wants to sell and I would like to buy it but the additional 5% stamp duty rate for what would count as a second home is a killer.
Are there any conveyancing solicitors who could advise on how to avoid (not evade) this extra 5%?

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CrazyMidget · Today 01:36

Stampdutywoes · Yesterday 17:08

Good grief. Any sensible person avoids tax where possible. Evading tax is obviously different.

JK Rowling doesn't avoid tax. It would be far, far more tax efficient to be domiciled in a tax haven and spend the requisite amount of time there each year, but she doesn't do that. She stays in the UK and pays a massive amount of tax that she could legally avoid, because she's community-minded. I wonder to think of the amount that she must have paid over the years.

AnonyMumAuDHD · Today 01:41

There’s no sensible or financially conducive reason whatsoever for you to jointly own two properties with an ex partner, when you don’t plan to live in them together. He should buy you out of the one he resides in and you buy the second as your only property and pay lower rate stamp duty accordingly. Otherwise you both have to suck up the second property SD, like the rest of us.

But, honestly, if he is your ex, then separation of finances should be a natural joint goal?

Oooh, except is the issue that he cannot afford to fully buy you out/raise a mortgage on the current property, so needs you to remain on the current mortgage? By contrast, he IS able to get an additional joint mortgage on the smaller, cheaper one you are living in?

if so: then you need an alternative strategy. Essentially he gets a mortgage for what every he can raise and and you transfer the property into his name BUT the difference between his mortgage he raises and the outstanding value/amount he needs to give you would be treated as a loan. {eg your half share is £150k, but he can only raise £100k. He gives you that but he would owe you £50k. This would be regarded as a secured loan.] You get a solicitor to draw up a contract that clarifies it is a loan for £x [outstanding] amount, at x% interest, to be repaid in full by x date (or in instalments). Ideally this should be secured against the property, but would not be considered a share in the ownership, just a ‘charge’ against it. Your name comes off the title deeds as a joint owner, but moves down the deeds to register your charge/financial interest instead. A solicitor can advise.

Then you take what he has raised via mortgage and buy the second property/get a mortgage yourself as sole owner in your own name? No increased stamp duty, no blurred lines in terms of finances. No issues at a later date if either of you start cohabiting with other people who might accrue an interest in one of the properties, no issue about evicting those partners should your ex die and you need to claim your share of the other property etc. Financially, a clean break.

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