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Would Labour voters be upset if joining the EU meant they could no longer tax children’s education?

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Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 12:03

Taxing children’s education is banned as part of EU membership. If the U.K. rejoined the EU, would Labour supporters be upset that they can no longer levy the tax or would it be seen as a necessary compromise.

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Queenslaugh · Yesterday 16:22

Stopbeingsoridiculous · 08/10/2026 15:43

This is all such a ridiculous thing to become obsessed about. You need to understand that this is not a policy that 93% of children’s families care about.

You can’t change it except by hoping to vote the government out for one that feels strongly about it. However, on the basis that this government is likely to look at voter reform in the next couple of years it is unlikely that any of the mainstream parties will hold any type of majority in the next or subsequent parliaments.

You also need to bear in mind that this parliament could run to 2029 July . So you’ve got to face the fact that you will be paying an extra 20% on your fees (or whatever it is that your school has decided to levy because it’s not obligatory to put them up by 20% it was put on the school not on the fees )

So sit down calmly, work out if it’s affordable, definitely for the next 3 school years.. and almost certainly beyond that. Then if you can’t afford it you will just have to join the 93% and have your children educated by the state.

Sigh it’s always the most confident,self righteous and condescending posts that are the most full of basic inaccuracies and misunderstandings. I’m sure there’s a known psychological phenomenon for this, but can’t be chewed to look it up. Anyway for what’s it’s worth

it was put on the school not on the fees
No, no, no. I’m not sure what you thought the 20% tax was levied on? It is on the amount paid for educational services by the fee payer.

You need to understand that this is not a policy that 93% of children’s families care about.
I think that you actually meant that the tax only affects 93% of children currently at school. You need to understand that people care about education outside of those with children currently at school and that people also care about damaging taxes even if they don’t pay them. Shocking I know, people thinking of others.

You can’t change it except by hoping to vote the government out for one that feels strongly about it. However, on the basis that this government is likely to look at voter reform in the next couple of years it is unlikely that any of the mainstream parties will hold any type of majority in the next or subsequent parliaments.
Every mainstream party outside of Labour and Green Party has vowed to reverse it. It is illegal in the EU and Labour would want to join the EU if given a second term. So outside of the SNP or greens forming the next government, the policy will be reversed. I don’t understand what you mean about no mainstream parties having any type of majority.

Kimmielee · Yesterday 16:24

Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 12:03

Taxing children’s education is banned as part of EU membership. If the U.K. rejoined the EU, would Labour supporters be upset that they can no longer levy the tax or would it be seen as a necessary compromise.

Not the top of my list of priorities 😅 There’s always ‘charity’ status that needs looking at anyway.

Kimmielee · Yesterday 16:31

It’s really now the 95% club now though, isn’t it. As private school numbers drop and drop.

Queenslaugh · Yesterday 16:36

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Queenslaugh · Yesterday 16:41

Kimmielee · Yesterday 16:31

It’s really now the 95% club now though, isn’t it. As private school numbers drop and drop.

Where do they go?

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 16:51

Are you American @Queenslaugh ?

Queenslaugh · Yesterday 16:53

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 16:51

Are you American @Queenslaugh ?

No, English. Lived in the US most of my life, London a few years here and there.

DuncinToffee · Yesterday 16:59

Queenslaugh · Yesterday 16:53

No, English. Lived in the US most of my life, London a few years here and there.

And you tell us we can't criticise the US for the way they treat schools children because of VAT on school fees?

Spotsmum · Yesterday 17:55

Silly post designed to stir things up. Really, do better

Spotsmum · Yesterday 17:56

Load of nonsense!

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 18:02

I won’t hear criticism of the US from a Brit again, at least we don’t behave like this towards children

Arguments about VAT on private school fees are relatively small beer compared to the toxicity that is the US government right now.

lollypop42 · Yesterday 22:58

i wouldnt worry, the labour party will never pull it off

NeverDropYourMooncup · Today 08:03

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strawberrybubblegum · Today 08:44

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That is a really cruel thing to say to an American parent.

Take a good, hard look at yourself.

The self-righteous Left 🙄

AStonedRose · Today 08:50

Zzxzzz · 09/10/2026 21:53

You can say this all you want. It isn't true. And the fact that there's a government monopoly on healthcare depresses wages. There's a reason US doctors make more.

The current level of NHS pay is one of the benchmarks used to determine private sector pay.

This is one of the obtuse things I've ever read. There is absolutely, visibly, not a government monopoly on healthcare in the UK.

This is evinced by the availability of other healthcare providers in the UK.

These include Spire Healthcare, Circle Health Group, HCA Healthcare UK, Nuffield Health, Ramsay Health Care UK, Bupa, Practice Plus Group, Priory Group, Elysium Healthcare, Cygnet Health Care, InHealth Group, Alliance Medical, and very many others.

Zzxzzz · Today 08:52

AStonedRose · Today 08:50

This is one of the obtuse things I've ever read. There is absolutely, visibly, not a government monopoly on healthcare in the UK.

This is evinced by the availability of other healthcare providers in the UK.

These include Spire Healthcare, Circle Health Group, HCA Healthcare UK, Nuffield Health, Ramsay Health Care UK, Bupa, Practice Plus Group, Priory Group, Elysium Healthcare, Cygnet Health Care, InHealth Group, Alliance Medical, and very many others.

The NHS still vastly dominates and dwarves these guys put together

TemperanceWest · Today 09:18

strawberrybubblegum · Today 08:44

That is a really cruel thing to say to an American parent.

Take a good, hard look at yourself.

The self-righteous Left 🙄

Queenslaugh's now-deleted post, which I quoted from, was really unpleasantly goady. She says came from X after seeing this thread on her feed and registered here to make that post, so I would imagine she is tough enough for a robust reply.

Neverdropyourmooncup is merely stating a fact.

Hedgerowmanager · Today 09:23

TemperanceWest · Today 09:18

Queenslaugh's now-deleted post, which I quoted from, was really unpleasantly goady. She says came from X after seeing this thread on her feed and registered here to make that post, so I would imagine she is tough enough for a robust reply.

Neverdropyourmooncup is merely stating a fact.

It wasn’t, actually.

BIossomtoes · Today 09:35

Hedgerowmanager · Today 09:23

It wasn’t, actually.

Perception is all.

Hedgerowmanager · Today 09:45

BIossomtoes · Today 09:35

Perception is all.

And reporting…

AStonedRose · Today 09:59

Zzxzzz · Today 08:52

The NHS still vastly dominates and dwarves these guys put together

First, it's much more complicated than 'vastly dominates' given the NHS uses private providers for some things, and you also factor in dentistry, private physio etc etc.

But the point is, it's not a fucking monopoly. The idea that the NHS depresses private sector salaries is nonsense. Providers are free to pay doctors what they want.

TemperanceWest · Today 10:01

Hedgerowmanager · Today 09:23

It wasn’t, actually.

Yes it was. If it wasn't it wouldn't have been deleted.

BIossomtoes · Today 10:06

AStonedRose · Today 09:59

First, it's much more complicated than 'vastly dominates' given the NHS uses private providers for some things, and you also factor in dentistry, private physio etc etc.

But the point is, it's not a fucking monopoly. The idea that the NHS depresses private sector salaries is nonsense. Providers are free to pay doctors what they want.

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Added to which private healthcare providers don’t employ doctors. They work on a self employed basis for private work and charge whatever the market will stand.

strawberrybubblegum · Today 10:07

TemperanceWest · Today 09:18

Queenslaugh's now-deleted post, which I quoted from, was really unpleasantly goady. She says came from X after seeing this thread on her feed and registered here to make that post, so I would imagine she is tough enough for a robust reply.

Neverdropyourmooncup is merely stating a fact.

No, it was cruelly twisting the knife on every parent's worst fear.

Completely out of context. What do school shootings have to do with anything that was mentioned before?!?

Just to point-score.

Disgusting.

strawberrybubblegum · Today 10:10

Hedgerowmanager · Today 09:45

And reporting…

Quite. Strange deletions on this thread.

Quite why nearlylovemyusername had her post deleted - where she talks about the personal impact of this tax on her family - I really don't know.