AIBU to find pronoun introductions patronising?

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I was in a meeting this morning and a woman introduced herself saying ‘Hi, my name is Maureen and my pronouns are she/her'

I genuinely haven’t heard anyone say this for years. As she was clearly a biological female and had a female name it sounded both patronising and virtue signalling. We all knew she was a woman within a second of seeing her.

I have never not immediately been able to tell someone’s sex and quite frankly in a meeting you use people's names not pronouns so it’s totally unnecessary.

AIBU to think pronoun announcements sound ridiculous.

@Canadanian

The weakness in your argument is that you believe that men who identify as women as not biological men, when in fact reality matters, they are biological men still.

We believe that men who identify as women are equally risky to women as men who do not identify as the opposite sex.

That’s essentially the problem.

We don’t have a problem how men identify we have a problem with men however they identify in a space or competition that has been segregated for biological reasons. And that reasons is always for the safety, dignity and fairnss for women, otherwise it’s not actually legal.

excuse the multiple typos in my last post

I had spoken with a company on the phone a few weeks ago and they followed my enquiry up with an email so I could get an order firmed up. It had the lady’s pronouns in her email signature. Put me entirely off the company. It’s just offensive nonsense. I went elsewhere.

What utter tosh. Why don't we all wear glasses to make short-sighted people feel included? Why not stim or wear gloves to make people with autism or OCD feel included? Or write with the wrong hand to make lefties not feel the odd ones out. Etc.

@Canadanian

I presume by saying ‘the safety of women’ you are referring to the safety of women from men?

Historically, society has helped improve safety and fairness for women by separating by biological sex in some circumstances. Most things in society are not separated by sex, but when they are it is because biological sex matters? All rapes and most sexually assaults are committed by men. Biological men pose far greater risk to biological women than biological females pose to other females.

Biological men and biological women have a distinct biological and genetic differences no matter what their feelings are and no matter whether they a fully functioning. For example, not all women give birth but only women do.

The trans movement has tried to changed this protection of biological sex segregation to segregating by feelings (identity). This increases the risk from men, any men, to women.

Men and women should be able to wear what they want, feel how they like and do what they like as long as it doesn’t negatively affect anyone else. Men and women can feel feminine or masculine and I support men wearing dresses, makeup, nail varnish and women to wear suits and ties if they wish.

Breaking down sexual stereotypes starts by accepting that men can wear dresses and feel feminine and yet still be accepted as biologically male. It is regressive to think that a man is actually a woman if he feels pretty rather than macho.

However, as men still pose a risk to women, unfortunately, we would like to keep our sex based protections as well as our safety and fairness in sports to biological reality.

Thank you.

No doubt.

I had this too recently.
My Maureen - announced her name and then pronouns and I just gave my name. All fine.

I spoke to "Maureen" afterwards and she'd been on maternity leave for 28 months and thought that was the way to do things.

I have never not immediately been able to tell someone’s sex and quite frankly in a meeting you use people's names not pronouns so it’s totally unnecessary.

She's not telling you her sex class though. She's telling you her gender.

Which, unless you have a crystal ball, could frankly be ANYTHING in some circles these days with the alphabet soup being inflicted on us.

Just smile and think of JKR.

I don’t need to know someone’s gender in an office meeting though. Any more than I need to know their religion or their sexual orientation. No one tells you those in your average meeting, so why on earth does anyone need to know people’s gender identity?

I didn’t say anyone did need to know? I would have thought it obvious from my post I don’t have much patience with it all.

i was responding to OP about where Maureen at her work was likely coming from. I don’t have to agree with Maureen to understand the basic position.

I wasn't arguing with you. If anything, I was arguing with Margaret!