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To think my relationship is over after DH said I’m not seductive?

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ListenBuddy · 15/09/2026 10:47

DH is constantly falling asleep around 9pm after drinking. We barely have any time together and we used to have sex often but because of his sleeping pattern it’s reduced significantly.

I caught him messaging an “acquaintance” from college where he failed to mention he was married (but mentioned a lot of other stuff). He told me this was for “nostalgia”. nothing sexual in those messages but that’s where I noticed a big change. she lives in Australia so no chance of meeting up but still.

I am fed up and said there’s a lack of intimacy. He told me that he spends “all his time” with me and has reduced his drinking for me. Then said he cooked me a meal on our anniversary (but left after an hour to go the gym).

he asked what intimacy I wanted, it felt embarrassing to say I want to feel wanted by you.

he then said I don’t ever do anything romantic for him, and that I’m “not seductive”.

when I said this was hurtful he said that romantic and seductive are the same thing. But then said he would expect me to be playful and welcome him home from the gym?

I’ve already told him the messages made me feel insecure and unattractive… and now I feel like I’m not exciting enough for him.

how do I even move passed a comment like that?

OP posts:
MMUmum · 15/09/2026 18:26

ListenBuddy · 15/09/2026 10:47

DH is constantly falling asleep around 9pm after drinking. We barely have any time together and we used to have sex often but because of his sleeping pattern it’s reduced significantly.

I caught him messaging an “acquaintance” from college where he failed to mention he was married (but mentioned a lot of other stuff). He told me this was for “nostalgia”. nothing sexual in those messages but that’s where I noticed a big change. she lives in Australia so no chance of meeting up but still.

I am fed up and said there’s a lack of intimacy. He told me that he spends “all his time” with me and has reduced his drinking for me. Then said he cooked me a meal on our anniversary (but left after an hour to go the gym).

he asked what intimacy I wanted, it felt embarrassing to say I want to feel wanted by you.

he then said I don’t ever do anything romantic for him, and that I’m “not seductive”.

when I said this was hurtful he said that romantic and seductive are the same thing. But then said he would expect me to be playful and welcome him home from the gym?

I’ve already told him the messages made me feel insecure and unattractive… and now I feel like I’m not exciting enough for him.

how do I even move passed a comment like that?

He drinks, falls asleep at 9pm, expects you to welcome him home seductively from the gym, why would you want this prize specimen to spend time with you? Look for someone who appreciates you for you Op, this man is living like a single man and is using you to excuse his behaviour

Ohdfod · 15/09/2026 18:31

Read a book on seduction? Because him getting pissed, falling asleep or fucking off to the gym is oh so seductive? Honestly, that made me snort. What a twat!
And he cooked you an anniversary meal but fucked off after an hour? This one is not a keeper, you deserve so much more than this half arsed fuck wit.

PrettyPickle · 15/09/2026 18:33

@ListenBuddy I think there is a big difference between romance and seduction and that he is confusing the two.

Romance is emotional connection. It’s tenderness, thoughtfulness, shared time, feeling valued, feeling seen. It’s him wanting to be close to you, choosing you, making space for you. Seduction is sexual signalling. It’s playfulness, flirtation, physical invitation, erotic energy. They overlap sometimes, but they are not the same thing. You can have romance without seduction (a loving anniversary dinner). You can have seduction without romance (a quick sexual advance with no emotional closeness).

When he says “romantic and seductive are the same thing”, he’s not describing reality - he’s describing his own narrow definition of intimacy, which seems to revolve around you performing desire rather than him showing affection.

His comment stings because it’s not just unkind, it’s revealing. From what you say, He’s drinking to the point he’s unconscious by 9pm, withdrawing from shared time, messaging another woman without mentioning he’s married, minimising your feelings, shifting blame onto you (“you’re not seductive”), redefining intimacy as something you must perform for him, ignoring the emotional intimacy you’re actually asking for, You’re saying: “I want to feel wanted.” He’s replying: “You’re not seductive enough.”

Those are not equivalent. One is about connection. The other is about performance.

His behaviour suggests avoidance, escapism through alcohol, emotional withdrawal, defensiveness when confronted, a desire for validation from outside the relationship, a tendency to blame rather than reflect and the “welcome him home from the gym” comment? That’s not intimacy, that’s him wanting an ego boost. You’re not asking for anything unreasonable. You’re asking for partnership.

You don’t “get over” it by trying to be more seductive. You get past it by recognising it wasn’t a fair or accurate criticism.

The real conversation is what does intimacy mean to each of you? Who withdrew first int he romance stakes? Why is he drinking so much? Why is he seeking nostalgic attention from someone else? Why is he defensive instead of reflective? What does he think partnership looks like? And what do you need to feel secure and valued? And crucially are you both willing to do the emotional work?

Because right now, from how you have writtenthis, he’s asking you to perform desire while he contributes very little to the emotional foundation that makes desire possible.

Romance is connection. Seduction is sexual energy. He’s using the second to avoid dealing with the first. And you’re absolutely right to feel hurt - not because you’re “not exciting enough”, but because he could be dodging the real issue and placing the responsibility for intimacy entirely on you. Only you know if that is true.

Fidgety31 · 15/09/2026 18:37

Why would you want to seduce a drunk ?!
that’s grim .
raise your standards .

Branleuse · 15/09/2026 18:42

Why would you act seductive to someone who doesn't even give you basic affection.

godmum56 · 15/09/2026 18:47

ItsPickleRick · 15/09/2026 10:49

Why would you want to? He’s a heavy drinker who falls asleep at 9pm and messages other women.

You deserve far better!

first post nails it

StarDolphins · 15/09/2026 18:50

So basically he can’t be arsed to be a good person so he blames you and expects you to entice him just like the women do on pornoanno doubt🙄 this would turn me right off!

BruFord · 15/09/2026 18:53

Do you find him seductive @ListenBuddy ? I wouldn't find a heavy drinker seductive at all. Time he looked at his own behaviour rather than yours.

BrilliantBetty · 15/09/2026 18:56

Sounds really boring.

Horses7 · 15/09/2026 18:58

ItsPickleRick · 15/09/2026 10:49

Why would you want to? He’s a heavy drinker who falls asleep at 9pm and messages other women.

You deserve far better!

First post nails it as usual or FPNIAU as I know MN loves an acronym!

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 15/09/2026 19:23

Has he got a new mistress?
Alcohol?

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/09/2026 19:31

This comment might say more about me that I mean... but I wouldn't think seduction has much of a role in any LTR? The interpretation in my head would suggest excitement and anticipation and flirtations. None of which is really a thing if you've been living together forever and sharing every other aspect of your lives.

Greenseacat · 15/09/2026 19:37

ItsPickleRick · 15/09/2026 10:49

Why would you want to? He’s a heavy drinker who falls asleep at 9pm and messages other women.

You deserve far better!

This.

OP, he sounds like a complete loser. Why would you want to stay with someone like this?

RaininSummer · 15/09/2026 19:44

'Playful'…I think he needs a puppy to welcome him home

Bestfootforward11 · 15/09/2026 19:53

Is he worth seducing??

And what does he do to seduce you?

At the end of the day Intimacy is not about about some kind of performative seduction routine, it goes much deeper than that. Him asking for you to seduce him is honestly a bit naff.

honeylulu · 15/09/2026 19:55

He sounds a complete bore. Let me guess, does he take his own advice by greeting you "playfully" when you come home? I suspect not. Sorry to say so but the messaging other women suggests he's bored with you and has no intention of making any effort. He's literally saying if you want to be intimate with me, you put in the effort because I can't be bothered.

I recognise some of the details. This is the guy who has a son from a previous relationship who lives with you most of the time and you look after him while "D"H fucks off to the gym and tells you you're lucky he isn't out for longer. Am I right? If so, just dump him. He's a user. You deserve so much better.

Weekmindedfool · 15/09/2026 19:59

Sounds like a lack of effort on both sides.

FriendlyMedusa · 16/09/2026 02:30

Tell him it's a bit difficult to want to seduce an alcoholic cheater with the communication skills of a lettuce.

FriendlyMedusa · 16/09/2026 02:34

Also - He's describing a porno and not a human being. He is not mature enough to be in a relationship.

99bottlesofkombucha · 16/09/2026 02:43

andthat · 15/09/2026 11:13

This.

‘read a book on being seductive’?! Fuck off!

I do believe he looked at the pictures…

CrazyMidget · 16/09/2026 02:45

Mischance · 15/09/2026 11:12

Your role in life is not to be seductive for his benefit.

Tell him to stop drinking.

I do think it's part of each partner's role in a relationship to romance/tease/seduce the other occasionally, since you've taken them off the market and essentially kept them all for yourself and they can't get those things with anyone else.

OP and her husband have a silly problem. Each wants more of that stuff from the other but each is too prideful to initiate! It's crazy.

CocksBolingey · 16/09/2026 02:45

What is he on about?!
He’d “expect you to be playful 🤢 and welcome him home from the gym”

Who does this man think he is?! 😂

CrazyMidget · 16/09/2026 02:45

FriendlyMedusa · 16/09/2026 02:30

Tell him it's a bit difficult to want to seduce an alcoholic cheater with the communication skills of a lettuce.

That'll really, really help.

CrazyMidget · 16/09/2026 02:52

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/09/2026 19:31

This comment might say more about me that I mean... but I wouldn't think seduction has much of a role in any LTR? The interpretation in my head would suggest excitement and anticipation and flirtations. None of which is really a thing if you've been living together forever and sharing every other aspect of your lives.

Hard disagree. Partners should never stop romancing each other. (Occasionally, I mean, not as in 24/7. 😄)

I know things get boring in a LTR, but there are a billion ways to switch up the routine. I don't mean sexually, I mean the world is full of new things you can do together, and doing new things together outside the house creates intimacy. Taking a cookery class together is a good one. I took a class once, and there were lots of couples there. Or an adventurous holiday.

To go back to your point, how many people would be pleased to think that because they were in a long-term relationship, they were never going to experience seduction, excitement, anticipation, and flirtation ever again, for the rest of their lives? That the only way to feel those things again is to leave the relationship? That's how divorce happens.

VoltaireMittyDream · 16/09/2026 02:56

Bonkers1966 · 15/09/2026 11:33

It sounds as if he has been watching way too much porn. He also sounds like an annoying idiot.

This.

I don’t buy the fantasy that you could live happily ever after if you both took a leap of faith and communicated honestly and vulnerably about your deepest feelings and desires.

A man who’s happy lying around on the sofa drinking himself to sleep, feels entitled to some sort of burlesque strip tease in the few sober waking moments he shares with his wife, and talks to her like she’s shit on his shoe is unlikely to be open to any kind of constructive discussion.

He’s just another lazy pornsick entitled man.

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