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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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Visiblyabove25 · Yesterday 15:55

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:50

What happened to free speech that's currently being discussed on the Reform conference thread? It's make it up as you go along with freedom of assembly as well. Nobody was listening to Jews when they were threatened by the violent Palestinian marchers. As for the KKK reference, oh please.

But again, we live in a country governed by the rule of law. Yes, you have the right to protest. For example, heckling a politician at a party conference is well within your rights of free speech. But if you are planning a march or mass gathering, you need to notify the police so they are able to properly allocate resources for your and the public’s safety and you cannot block national infrastructure. Whether you are left or right wing - that’s the law of this land, and there have been, for example, climate activists sent to jail for breaking it.

Even Reform have condemned these men at Dover, so I’m surprised to see anyone defending their behaviour.

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 15:55

pinkstripeycat · Yesterday 15:47

My next door neighbour went and he is an accountant, one of his brothers is an orthopaedic surgeon and the other is a physicist.

Aye, right 😁

WinterGold · Yesterday 15:56

MissyB1 · Yesterday 15:07

Bollocks! I havent seen pro palestine demonstrators with balaclavas on. When the police are busy arresting 70 year old women who are sat on the pavement holding a piece of cardboard those women are definitely not hiding their faces - probably because they aren't cowards.

Those thugs in Dover dont dare show their faces - how very brave of them 🙄🙄

Not necessarily balaclavas, but certainly plenty of keffiyahs pulled up to obscure their faces and serve the same purpose.

Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes
Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes
hattie43 · Yesterday 15:56

A result of successive governments ignoring people .

ClaudettedeBeauvoir · Yesterday 15:56

dustabsorber · Yesterday 14:40

At least they're protesting about something that is happening in the UK and not something that is happening in the Middle East. The majority of UK citizens want the boats stopping.

Unfortunately a majority of voters (probably mostly those more likely to support Reform/Restore) voted for the exact conditions which were the catalyst for the small boat trafficking - Brexit.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:56

WinterGold · Yesterday 15:56

Not necessarily balaclavas, but certainly plenty of keffiyahs pulled up to obscure their faces and serve the same purpose.

Absolutely, that poster is in denial.

ILikeDinosaurs · Yesterday 15:57

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 15:27

Was there public disorder or not?

Why were they there?

watchinginhorror · Yesterday 15:57

KatiePricesKnickers · Yesterday 15:23

The pro Palestine protesters have shown them the way.

Except pro-Palestine protestors have been rounded up and left to rot in prison until the government is able to do away with juries because they haven’t actually committed any crime. Yesterday’s lot sauntered off home in time for the 3pm kick offs.

ClaudettedeBeauvoir · Yesterday 15:58

Visiblyabove25 · Yesterday 15:55

But again, we live in a country governed by the rule of law. Yes, you have the right to protest. For example, heckling a politician at a party conference is well within your rights of free speech. But if you are planning a march or mass gathering, you need to notify the police so they are able to properly allocate resources for your and the public’s safety and you cannot block national infrastructure. Whether you are left or right wing - that’s the law of this land, and there have been, for example, climate activists sent to jail for breaking it.

Even Reform have condemned these men at Dover, so I’m surprised to see anyone defending their behaviour.

Absolutely. Which is why I cannot fathom why no arrests were made.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:58

Visiblyabove25 · Yesterday 15:55

But again, we live in a country governed by the rule of law. Yes, you have the right to protest. For example, heckling a politician at a party conference is well within your rights of free speech. But if you are planning a march or mass gathering, you need to notify the police so they are able to properly allocate resources for your and the public’s safety and you cannot block national infrastructure. Whether you are left or right wing - that’s the law of this land, and there have been, for example, climate activists sent to jail for breaking it.

Even Reform have condemned these men at Dover, so I’m surprised to see anyone defending their behaviour.

My issue is with the KKK similarity. It's the usual selectively chosen hyperbole.

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 15:58

YANBU - they're "peacefully protesting" 🙄
No, they're not - they're intimidating. To say they're all about "protecting women and children" I find people like them a lot more threatening than migrants who are in the main just normal people going about minding their own business.

Littlemisssunshine1982 · Yesterday 15:58

And what about all the ones turning up in masks at the left’s protest?

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 15:59

watchinginhorror · Yesterday 15:57

Except pro-Palestine protestors have been rounded up and left to rot in prison until the government is able to do away with juries because they haven’t actually committed any crime. Yesterday’s lot sauntered off home in time for the 3pm kick offs.

Are you talking about those aligning with Palestine Action Group, who have been warned about consequences?

Thesearenotthedroids · Yesterday 15:59

I want to know who was left doing all the weekend childcare for all these men. Oh wait, I already know.

WinterGold · Yesterday 16:00

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 15:58

YANBU - they're "peacefully protesting" 🙄
No, they're not - they're intimidating. To say they're all about "protecting women and children" I find people like them a lot more threatening than migrants who are in the main just normal people going about minding their own business.

Do you find this exactly the same “uniform” less intimidating then? Looks pretty similar to me.

Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes
KeepPumping · Yesterday 16:00

cariadlet · Yesterday 15:50

I was confused when I first saw the photos of the Dover protests because they were dressed like the self-styled Antifa thugs who have been wearing black bloc for years - first in the US and then copied by European TRAs.

So now the Far Left and the Far Right both dress in black and mask up.

I loathe it. The tactic is cowardly and designed to intimidate.

I have been going on demos and protests for 40 years. I have never covered my face. I have always believed in the cause I have supported and have been willing to engage in conversation both with the police and with people on the other side of an issue. I have never felt the need to hide my face or my beliefs.

I support the right to peaceful protest but would like to see this kind of behaviour (wearing masks and balaclavas) banned in public other than face masks for medical reasons (and those are totally different as they show so much more of the face).

So start with the teenagers masked up and driving e-bikes, motorbikes etc, at speed through high streets up and down the land scaring OAP"s, they are a much bigger problem than a bunch of people making a peaceful protest about undocumented unidentified migrants breaking the law by arriving illegally by boat.

hattie43 · Yesterday 16:00

Littlemisssunshine1982 · Yesterday 15:58

And what about all the ones turning up in masks at the left’s protest?

Oh they don’t count , it’s only hysterical when it’s the right .

blueskyview · Yesterday 16:00

Latest figures show a sharp drop in immigration over the last year and a sharp drop in small boat crossings. So the govt is addressing immigration. I agree these masked men very intimidating and give off black shirt / Moseley vibes - horrible.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:00

WinterGold · Yesterday 16:00

Do you find this exactly the same “uniform” less intimidating then? Looks pretty similar to me.

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That will somehow be different.

blueskyview · Yesterday 16:02

And yes left wing protestors in balaclavas are just as bad.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:04

ClaudettedeBeauvoir · Yesterday 15:56

Unfortunately a majority of voters (probably mostly those more likely to support Reform/Restore) voted for the exact conditions which were the catalyst for the small boat trafficking - Brexit.

Brexit isn’t causing the issues. Look at the EU and countries still part of it. Surely you’ve noticed that

KeepPumping · Yesterday 16:04

blueskyview · Yesterday 16:00

Latest figures show a sharp drop in immigration over the last year and a sharp drop in small boat crossings. So the govt is addressing immigration. I agree these masked men very intimidating and give off black shirt / Moseley vibes - horrible.

The government has tweaked visa rules to give the impression of addressing immigration, they still have a globalist/EU agenda though, the only vote now is Reform because Labour will be business as usual if they ever won another election.

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 16:05

CarbootJunction · Yesterday 14:49

The sight of them made my sad heart soar.

At last, England roars.

😂

The sight of masked hordes doesn't make my heart soar - intimidating thuggery "wot, we're just walking and protecting our women, we're friendly!"🙄
If they came out from behind their masks I bet there'd be some right charmers under there who don't usually give a shit about their women.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:05

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Do people who mind this particular group also object to any face covering?

AInightingale · Yesterday 16:05

I wouldn't worry OP. The authorities will be down on this like a ton of bricks. The activists involved will get hefty prison sentences and every resource will be deployed to stop the protests and pre-empt them. Meanwhile, the flotsam and jetsam of the earth will continue to pour over our borders because there is not one iota of will in Andy Burnham's govt or within the EU to stop it.