Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

[MumofCandR]

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

And if you believe your first statement is actually true you have not looked at sexual offences in any detail

What or where is the French equivalent of the RNLI? Why do illegal migrants on boats sometimes only a few metres from the French coast have to be rescued by our services?

Accordingly their towns and cities are much safer for women and girls.

Including women and girls who are black/brown?

I don't know if France has an equivalent of the RLNI, but I'm so grateful that we do have it.
The fact they help anyone who's in trouble at sea and don't pick or choose who is worthy of saving (do you really want to go down that road?!) is a good thing imo.

I think it’s illusory to suggest we need to leave the ECHR to diverge from it on immigration. There are many examples where UK govts have done so - article 8 restrictions for foreign offenders, and out of country appeals - and quite a lot of room to make changes - including detention of asylum seekers awaiting decisions and third country arrangements - without leaving it.

Depends what you mean by safe. Hungarian women might be ‘safe’ from migrant men, but they are significantly more likely to be victims a of intimate partner violence compared to the European average. About 40% of women report having experienced physical or sexual violence or threats from a partner versus about 18% across the EU.

Much lower in Poland, about 12%, but still higher than 9% in the UK.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/7870049/20464303/KS-01-24-013-EN-N.pdf/052adbe2-40bd-9472-87c0-ed14c7106bfa

Can you give an example of a case that would have gone differently had the UK not been part of the ECHR?

It’s the black shirts all over again and anyone who can’t see that needs to read up on the conditions that led to WW2. Horrific.

I don't think that at all. I think our government are utterly spineless and treacherous, and people are rightly looking at Ceuta in horror and have decided that ordinary citizens have to take a stand, or this will never end until our country is similarly overrun.

But that's the problem, the "laws" in Britain don't seem to apply to everyone?? I know first hand that certain "minority groups" are treated differently and was told so by the police officer dealing with the "problem". Yes we have laws but unfortunately the government decides who they do and do not apply to. Saying "if you don't like our laws leave" is a joke now, because the laws are not working.

Exactly.

Years of intimidating masked Palestine protests and nothing.

One masked protest by British men (with zero arrests or incidents) and there is uproar.

Fly a Palestine flag, a gay flag. A Pakistan flag. Absolutely fine.

A St George?! Noooo cant do that!

I personally didn’t think of the KKK

but I think it’s very concerning that across Europe we are seeing people taking matters into their own hands and governments increasingly struggling with the issues of immigration and not working together

I think it’s very concerning that across Europe we are seeing people taking matters into their own hands and governments increasingly struggling with the issues of immigration and not working together
I completely agree. We all need to work together, and find a solution. Vigilante type shit that has been proposed on here and elsewhere on social media is not the answer.
Seeing KKK parallels and knowing your history is also important too, I feel (not aimed at you, just in general)

I think the lion bs rhetoric is the weirdest and wankiest element of all this. These strike me as sad little men, thinking they're strong powerful lions because they've been given an excuse to be angry about something.

In some ways I feel sorry for them: they are the result of generational toxic masculinity and now also pawns used by wealthy elite forces who have fingers in these men's brains via tech / social media, and are peddling lies about what's at the heart of all their problems.

But on a personal level, OP, yes I find these men much scarier than I've ever found the types of men they're so outraged about. Which is ironic, given I'm one of the women - with my children - I suppose they feel they're here to protect. 🙄

Oh dear.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16109961/one-100-asylum-claims-migrants-Home-Office-whistleblower.html

“Only one in 100 asylum seekers are genuine - with many migrants using 'the same script', a former Home Office insider has claimed.”

I don’t get all the be kind comments like Beccham above -we’re going to end up with a crazy right wing Restore/ Reform Gov as people are desperate something is done -maybe that’s what they want

Oh and the public in Dover, the women and children, and men were cheering them. Giving them bottles of water. Stated how safe they felt with these brave lads.

Again, Britain thanks them.

I’m sure the Gov will be giving these immigrants right to remain to get them out of hotels - and then they’ll need houses at some point how can we afford that - cities are trying to clear rough sleepers -taxes will have to go up to pay for this - the country is slready bankrupt

Yep. And it was published by the Times the Daily mail are playing catch up. I mean, we've all known this for years. I'm surprised the amount is as high as 1 in a hundred.

Poor white men! The most discriminated against minority! We definately need some positive discrimination laws/policies to address their historical disadvantages and under-representation. Maybe you should start a charity or a GoFundMe to raise money to address these centuries old inequalities and to stop women and minorities stealing all the wealth, power and top jobs.

And please note Farage was slagging the Resistance off as he is just much as establishment as any of them.

Literally the only hope for the UK now is Restore and Rupert Lowe. He's all you've got. You better hope he gets in or the UK will no longer exist in 20 years.

And again, best wishes to those brave boys standing against the flood of illegal immigration. I hope they're safe. Britain is proud of you and thanks you.

Rupert Lowe? Rupert Lowe who told Joe Rogan that there was just 'one murder' at the Dunblame massacre when 16 five year olds and one teacher were murdered by gun enthusiast Thomas Hamilton?

Your fantasy that Rupert Lowe isn't part of the establishment is deluded. He's mega rich, privately educated and racist. He left Reform because they weren't racist enough.

I think you might need to seek help, I'm concerned for your well-being.

Oh look mummy is here.So brave they wore balaclavas and scuttled off to the train station.🙄

I want to know why they weren’t all arrested. Withholding identification, intimidating and purposely causing disruption at a known transport hub is surely breaking laws.

The Palestine protestors get arrested over any minor misdemeanour.