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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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radiator2 · Yesterday 17:17

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:14

They do it because they don't want to be identified. This cowardly country's employers would no doubt be under pressure to sack them. No doubt they have rent and mortgages to pay and food to buy. People deserve to have a way of protesting and expressing their fear and anger at the way our country is going.

I'm sure the pompous leftists will absolutely love their quaint villages and hipster areas being shared by people who despise us and often harm us. You'll be getting your share soon, don't worry.

I never said people don’t deserve to have a way to protest or that anyone should share their space with illegal immigrants.

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:17

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 17:16

I would hazard a guess that they are a variety of men with their own reasons why they're attending these protests.

You’re as entitled to that view as I am to mine.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 17:17

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:16

Of course you’re a supporter of masked men running around in gangs intimidating people, you’ve said elsewhere you support this in your town. But some of us don’t want this where we live, some of us believe in resolving things face to face, in a democratic style, using our brains.

Yeah, because that's totally worked so far hasn't it?!

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:18

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 17:17

The hyperbole in your post doesn't help. Round here, it's not immigrants intimidating locals and causing fear and consternation, it's balaclava clad white youths stealing cars and ramming them into shops and houses. It's white youths roaming the streets in gangs looking for lone people to rob.

Any large group of people dressed in black and wearing masks is intimidating, no matter who their target is. Historically such groups are never out to promote peace and community cohesion. And it never ends well.

Hang on, you're saying it's only white youths committing crime.

Stairlifter · Yesterday 17:18

Gloriia · Yesterday 17:13

'Psychological violence'. I've heard it all now. It was peaceful. Not one hammer attack, no placards promoting death or decapitation.

They were protesting against the massive amount of undocumented young men arriving illegally by boats. Yes yes it's 'down' at the moment but that is apparently due to a lack of boats rather than anything our wet government have done to stop it.

We should all be supporting these people highlighting a massive problem.

Like I said, lack of physical violence is not the same as peaceful.

They weren't highlighting a problem. Everyone knows about the problem. They were just complaining about a problem. I too am annoyed by the problem. Most people are. Do you think the government isn't? Do you think that the government thinks 'Small boats are fine'? They would obviously stop them if they could, but it is much harder than it seems due to the legal and practical problems involved in doing so. These lads have no practical solutions.

Madamefroufrou · Yesterday 17:18

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:49

Ahh yes. It's the usual claims based on a "feeling".

RTA - if indeed you are a man, do you honestly believe it’s a good idea
to come on here like a wasp raiding a productive hive, twisting your mouth
and mocking “feelings” - huh?

NotAnotherScarf · Yesterday 17:19

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:14

Have a lie down hon, you sound delirious.

And equating a group of English people to the ss is perfectly reasonable?

Typical lefty. Miriam margolyes makes racist comments on live TV and it's fine. Someone is worried about the culture of the UK changing is weird

Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 17:19

MumofCandR · Yesterday 17:17

59% only said they would be happy with military intervention... It's not about sample size, check your comprehension.

Oh OP of course most people are against the illegal immigration! It's the top issue in most polls (that or the economy). We all know this. And I think 59% of people supporting the navy enforcing our borders is probably on the low side.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 17:19

Madamefroufrou · Yesterday 17:18

RTA - if indeed you are a man, do you honestly believe it’s a good idea
to come on here like a wasp raiding a productive hive, twisting your mouth
and mocking “feelings” - huh?

@Madamefroufrouwhat a way with words, I may have laughed.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:20

Stairlifter · Yesterday 17:18

Like I said, lack of physical violence is not the same as peaceful.

They weren't highlighting a problem. Everyone knows about the problem. They were just complaining about a problem. I too am annoyed by the problem. Most people are. Do you think the government isn't? Do you think that the government thinks 'Small boats are fine'? They would obviously stop them if they could, but it is much harder than it seems due to the legal and practical problems involved in doing so. These lads have no practical solutions.

There are no practical solutions to the situation in Gaza but that hasn't stopped London being upturned every Saturday for 3 years.

YourAmplePlumPoster · Yesterday 17:20

Masking up and imitating an army in order to intimidate the civilian population is a crime so I don't know why all the masked Antifa and trans activists at women's rallies don't get arrested.

MrsBunny2018 · Yesterday 17:21

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:20

I would have been absolutely terrified seeing that lot and not knowing what or who.

Apparently they didn't have any banners or let people know what they were doing ??

Poor people about to go on holiday as well getting that fright and all the other issues with ruining people's holidays and journeys.

I don't know whether it's correct but I did read that they were masked up to avoid surveilance but to also illustrate like with the men coming on boats, we don't know who they are ? Could be wrong.

I without a doubt think we need urgent action on the boats but this for me was a step too far.

Let's hope Burnham gets a grip where others have failed.

I'm sure Burnham will get a grip of it soon. Not yet though. He has more pressing policies like making subscriptions easier to cancel to implement first

Stairlifter · Yesterday 17:21

Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 17:19

Oh OP of course most people are against the illegal immigration! It's the top issue in most polls (that or the economy). We all know this. And I think 59% of people supporting the navy enforcing our borders is probably on the low side.

I don't even know what 'military intervention' means here. Does it mean the navy shooting at the boats? Have we become that kind of a country?

YourAmplePlumPoster · Yesterday 17:21

Let alone the ones on the pro Palestine demos.

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:21

EasternStandard · Yesterday 17:06

First Brexit now Jesus. Bit much.

The self proclaimed leader of this protest tweeted this morning ‘Christ is risen’, so I guess we can assume this was a religious protest as much as anything else.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:21

Psychological violence. I've heard it all now.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 17:22

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:21

Psychological violence. I've heard it all now.

Is this for any face covering?

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:23

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:21

The self proclaimed leader of this protest tweeted this morning ‘Christ is risen’, so I guess we can assume this was a religious protest as much as anything else.

Err, hello, Gaza is calling - from London. Is that about Christianity?

Gloriia · Yesterday 17:23

Baldrapunzel · Yesterday 17:17

The hyperbole in your post doesn't help. Round here, it's not immigrants intimidating locals and causing fear and consternation, it's balaclava clad white youths stealing cars and ramming them into shops and houses. It's white youths roaming the streets in gangs looking for lone people to rob.

Any large group of people dressed in black and wearing masks is intimidating, no matter who their target is. Historically such groups are never out to promote peace and community cohesion. And it never ends well.

Here's an idea let's object to both. We aren't saying let the white thugs carry on stealing. The police are indeed allowed to carry on arresting the local crims. We are saying we do not want boat loads of men arriving illegally so the government needs to step up. Hopefully the whole of Europe is waking up.

yorktown · Yesterday 17:23

NotAnotherScarf · Yesterday 17:07

No your England is groups of young men coming on small boats to harass young girls. Who believe that the streets are paved with gold. It's women being made into second class citizens. It's the archbishop of Canterbury saying there should be Sharia law in parts of the UK. It's white college students being stabbed, then arrested because they were called racist. It's British soldiers being hacked to death on the streets.

It's children attending a pop concert in Manchester being blown up.

That's your perfect England. It's not mine.

Middle ground is possible I am fairly sure.

Many people are able to see that immigration is not the only problem this country has. Work together on solving other problems and immigration will not be so important.

EmeraldShamrock000 · Yesterday 17:23

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:16

Of course you’re a supporter of masked men running around in gangs intimidating people, you’ve said elsewhere you support this in your town. But some of us don’t want this where we live, some of us believe in resolving things face to face, in a democratic style, using our brains.

Don’t tell lies, you love to try gaslighting.
I noticed on that other thread that you failed to acknowledge the sexual assault in the 10 year old on the grounds of the hotel.
You ignored that 💯. or that residents had been peacefully protesting 6 months before the worst fear came true.
More than once, you ignored this.

Anyone as I mentioned previously, I didn’t recognise your username automatically today.
I will not debate or discuss anything with anyone who refused to acknowledge a 10 year old.
www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/11/19/man-accused-of-sex-assault-of-girl-10-near-citywest-fit-to-be-tried/

Stairlifter · Yesterday 17:24

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:20

There are no practical solutions to the situation in Gaza but that hasn't stopped London being upturned every Saturday for 3 years.

This is such a strange response.

Firstly, it's whataboutery.

Secondly, if you think one set of protests is wrong you must surely think the other set is wrong.

But thirdly, I live in London, am frequently in the centre of it on Saturdays, and have never once felt my life upturned by any protest ever.

Open the window and breathe in the air.

WinterGold · Yesterday 17:24

frenchcheeses · Yesterday 17:13

The slide to the far right is scary. The violence at the Reform conference showed what they’re like, their violence is bubbling under the surface, ready to explode at any time. The masked men are just another branch of the Reform/Restore people. Shame on anyone that supports them

The question that needs to be asked is, why the slide to the Right?

If our traditional parties were listening to the people, Reform and Restore would be dead in the water. If you want to blame anyone, blame the Tories and Labour who gave failed to get a grip and just tinkered about at the edges of this issue!

I believe strongly in legal migration and the strengths and benefits brought by those who go through the due process appropriately.

What I don’t have time for is those that attempt to slip under the wire and make a mockery of, and therefore insult those that have respected our system and are prepared to assimilate, not those that arrive and recreate the same **holes they have left.

Switchnow · Yesterday 17:24

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:20

There are no practical solutions to the situation in Gaza but that hasn't stopped London being upturned every Saturday for 3 years.

Upturned? I don’t know where in London you live but I can’t think of a single Saturday that my life has been disrupted by pro-Palestine (or any other) protests. Probably because they’ve been legally permitted and are not in areas that cause disruption.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 17:25

EasternStandard · Yesterday 17:22

Is this for any face covering?

Well quite. Jewish people have been subjected to intimidation and nothing has been said. Nobody has suffered like they have.