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To feel relieved the school has now completely banned phones

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Eastie77Returns · Today 14:15

DD’s school has completely banned phones for all incoming Y7 pupils and this will last for the entirety of their time at the school going toward. Existing pupils are still allowed to bring phones in but have to keep to the old rule (if they are seen or heard they are confiscated for 20 days).

DD is Y9 so she will be able to follow the old rule but DS, who starts secondary next year, will not be able to take one in. I honestly feel a massive sense of relief. He doesn’t have a phone at the moment and I was planning to get him an old style Nokia as he isn’t bothered about tech or latest phones. However I was a bit worried that he’d feel left if all his friends had iPhones etc. The school seems pretty serious about it all, all pupils and parents have to sign an agreement and any child caught with a phone will be excluded - no questions asked. The mother of DS’ best friend has now decided she will not send her DS to the school as originally planned as she thinks the ban is reckless and dangerous?! AIBU to think the ban is fine and makes complete sense plus millions of children managed to get to and from school safely without phones a generation ago!

OP posts:
T3Tim3 · Today 16:36

Faceonthewrongfoot · Today 15:46

Ok, but see I think having phones where they can contact mummy/daddy at the drop of a hat in fact stops teenagers from problem solving. They just ring their parents whenever anything happens (see other posts about 'changes of plans' or transport issues). Pre mobile phones, teenagers had to try and problem solve - figure out for themselves that they needed to get a different bus/walk/go to a friends house and ring home from there.
So I would actually say that needing to go to the office to send a message home might actually make your DS look for other solutions first before contacting you - or stopping to think about whether it can actually wait til after school. Which is then a more grown up thing than, as you say, needing his mummy or daddy every time something happens.

Exactly. Phones just make them anxious and think they can’t do anything for themselves or problem solve,chatgbt or mummy has to sort it all. There shouldn’t be any phones anywhere near schools.

T3Tim3 · Today 16:36

FancyBiscuitsLevel · Today 16:31

But children had access to payphones in the past. In the 90s in my northern comp there was a payphone inside the school as well as boxes at train stations and near main bus stops.

You were expected in the 90s if your bus /train was late to call school. Your problem solving was using a phone.

If your commute to school has only ever been walking or being driven in a parent’s car I can see why you would think phones weren’t needed, but they definitely are for those who use buses/trains/underground/trams to get to school.

We adults removed the infrastructure of payphones because we stopped using them because we all had mobiles.

There wasn’t in mine, or anywhere near my school.

OfficiallyOnVacation · Today 16:41

My secondary school had a coin-operated pay phone on the premises so you could phone home if you needed to!

Yabu because it’s a false sense of hope. Kids will still use phones to do illicit and unkind things in their rooms, at weekends etc. And kids will just find ways to hide a phone in their schoolbag/ use it in the school loos/ put up with having detention if they get caught.

My DD’s school has today made it policy NO child, all the way to y13, can have phones out in corridors or class. All phones switched off and kept in bags. And y12/y13 can only use them in the sixth form common room.

Im happy she’ll have a phone for her journey to and from school.

FirmSnake · Today 16:42

Agree OP. I didn't have a phone until my mid teens and I have never once used a payphone. Will do them good to develop some resilience and problem solving skills. 99.9% of the time the solution will be wait for the next bus or find a safe adult to ask.
We live in a very safe country, that is safer than it ever has been. They honestly dont need phones 24/7.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:43

T3Tim3 · Today 16:36

Exactly. Phones just make them anxious and think they can’t do anything for themselves or problem solve,chatgbt or mummy has to sort it all. There shouldn’t be any phones anywhere near schools.

Hmm

Sending a text to your parent to say 'swimming has been cancelled, can I get a lift with you or should I get the train' does not make anyone anxious.

There is concern around smartphones and social media etc. There is no evidence that normal communication with family members causes anxiety.

And this There shouldn’t be any phones anywhere near schools is wacky.

PinkCactusPink · Today 16:43

What about if they need their phone for their bus pass? I know some companies don't give a paper weekly pass now, it's all on your phone.

I wouldn't be happy at all to send my DD to a school that bans phones completely. DDs school have just implemented the rule this year that phones are to be switched off and in bags when in the school premises which is fine, but she has to text me when she arrives outside school and leaves school, I would not be happy if she could no longer do this.

Eastie77Returns · Today 16:43

Arbourimage · Today 14:31

I don’t think you can compare getting to and from school a generation ago, more children went to closer schools, journeys are longer, roads are busier.

It’s pretty sad you needed a school rule to enforce a rule in your own home though.

Enforce which rule in my own home?

OP posts:
T3Tim3 · Today 16:44

In the 80s neighborhood streets rarely had a payphone unless located near a major bus stop or corner shop. Rather than dotting every minor residential street, pay phones were spaced out to serve multiple blocks, often positioned near bus stops, high streets, or local shopping parades.
The UK had roughly 80,000.

We still have pay phones at train stations, airports and ferry ports, busy shopping areas, tourist spots, and outside major public squares.Remote villages and countryside locations where mobile phone signals do not reach.

When i went to uni in the 90s we had 2 pay phones that often broke and had permanent queues for an entire massive hall of residence. We didn’t have the internet, email or online shopping.Over drafts had to be pre agreed. Guess what we survived.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:46

FirmSnake · Today 16:42

Agree OP. I didn't have a phone until my mid teens and I have never once used a payphone. Will do them good to develop some resilience and problem solving skills. 99.9% of the time the solution will be wait for the next bus or find a safe adult to ask.
We live in a very safe country, that is safer than it ever has been. They honestly dont need phones 24/7.

Oh Biscuit for 'resilience'.

When the train goes wrong the wait can be hours.

Disrupt your own life if you've nothing important going on. Other people have places to be and things to do.

FirmSnake · Today 16:46

PinkCactusPink · Today 16:43

What about if they need their phone for their bus pass? I know some companies don't give a paper weekly pass now, it's all on your phone.

I wouldn't be happy at all to send my DD to a school that bans phones completely. DDs school have just implemented the rule this year that phones are to be switched off and in bags when in the school premises which is fine, but she has to text me when she arrives outside school and leaves school, I would not be happy if she could no longer do this.

Which bus companies are digital only? People say this frequently but I've never actually encountered it as an issue, and I dont drove so use a lot of public transport.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:46

Eastie77Returns · Today 16:43

Enforce which rule in my own home?

Edited

They mean you were worried about giving a brick phone but are happy to hide behind a blanket ban.

T3Tim3 · Today 16:47

PinkCactusPink · Today 16:43

What about if they need their phone for their bus pass? I know some companies don't give a paper weekly pass now, it's all on your phone.

I wouldn't be happy at all to send my DD to a school that bans phones completely. DDs school have just implemented the rule this year that phones are to be switched off and in bags when in the school premises which is fine, but she has to text me when she arrives outside school and leaves school, I would not be happy if she could no longer do this.

They don’t stick to that and get them out sneakily. Staff should be left to teach instead of managing phones.Many many schools have zero phones and it needs to be the same everywhere. I suspect county councils will change back to bus passes before long.

LarryForPrimeMinister · Today 16:47

Nope, as a parent whose child uses their phone as a medical device it just brings more light and embarrassment on him as hell be the odd one out.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:48

FirmSnake · Today 16:46

Which bus companies are digital only? People say this frequently but I've never actually encountered it as an issue, and I dont drove so use a lot of public transport.

Many companies are digital only for longer-lasting passes, and charge more for paper tickets.

FirmSnake · Today 16:48

concertinacornflake · Today 16:46

Oh Biscuit for 'resilience'.

When the train goes wrong the wait can be hours.

Disrupt your own life if you've nothing important going on. Other people have places to be and things to do.

The train station is going to be one the easiest places to find a means of communication. Most still have payphones. If not find a guard, or another passenger or press the help button if really stuck.
It's not as though a mobile phone is going to magically fix anything.

FirmSnake · Today 16:48

concertinacornflake · Today 16:48

Many companies are digital only for longer-lasting passes, and charge more for paper tickets.

Which bus companies?

T3Tim3 · Today 16:48

concertinacornflake · Today 16:46

Oh Biscuit for 'resilience'.

When the train goes wrong the wait can be hours.

Disrupt your own life if you've nothing important going on. Other people have places to be and things to do.

So. Look it up on your phone if your kid isn’t resilient enough to wait for the next train like kids have done for centuries.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:49

T3Tim3 · Today 16:47

They don’t stick to that and get them out sneakily. Staff should be left to teach instead of managing phones.Many many schools have zero phones and it needs to be the same everywhere. I suspect county councils will change back to bus passes before long.

Kids will just bring them anyway, why do you think a ban will end the problem?

T3Tim3 · Today 16:50

LarryForPrimeMinister · Today 16:47

Nope, as a parent whose child uses their phone as a medical device it just brings more light and embarrassment on him as hell be the odd one out.

Other kids with medical needs manage. Diabetics have phones in them all through primary for medical need. They don’t care and neither do the other kids.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:52

T3Tim3 · Today 16:48

So. Look it up on your phone if your kid isn’t resilient enough to wait for the next train like kids have done for centuries.

Sorry, look what up on my phone? What would that help with? I'm not the one waiting.

I'm sorry your kids struggle with anxiety but that shouldn't impact my family's ability to organise our lives outside school.

T3Tim3 · Today 16:52

concertinacornflake · Today 16:49

Kids will just bring them anyway, why do you think a ban will end the problem?

They can have their bags and pockets searched if it’s in the behaviour policy.

T3Tim3 · Today 16:53

concertinacornflake · Today 16:52

Sorry, look what up on my phone? What would that help with? I'm not the one waiting.

I'm sorry your kids struggle with anxiety but that shouldn't impact my family's ability to organise our lives outside school.

If your kid hasn’t turned up , look up their train. If you need to know before look it up before they get on it. Not hard.

concertinacornflake · Today 16:53

T3Tim3 · Today 16:52

They can have their bags and pockets searched if it’s in the behaviour policy.

Yes exactly - no time will be saved.

Holeymoley28 · Today 16:53

Well another local school went back today. The big no phones on site banned banned banned!!! Big thing about them being banned.

Hopped on TikTok clicked local and typed in the school name and well there’s plenty of back to school videos from inside the school posted 😅 There was even a teacher in one of the videos dancing away 🤣 so the ban isn’t being enforced anyway.

T3Tim3 · Today 16:53

concertinacornflake · Today 16:53

Yes exactly - no time will be saved.

Schools are doing it successfully already.