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AIBU to share this Reform exposé from C4?

38 replies

Firetreev · Yesterday 21:51

To share this fantastic documentary exposing Reform for the crooks and traitors that they really are. Thank you for sharing @ihateboris

I'd recommend watching it to the end.

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5128gap · Yesterday 23:15

Firetreev · Yesterday 22:34

I think somehow we need to show these people that Reform probably don't actually care about foreigners. They're just a scapegoat. They need to realise the reason why their lives are shit, are because of people like these donating to Reform. The very wealthy who hoover up the wealth and property etc. We need to somehow get through to Reform voters that they're being played to enrich the already wealthy elite around the globe. Same with Trump. It was never about helping their voters. How we make them see that they're pawns I don't know, but we need to try...

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We can't. Hard core Reform supporters typically hate 'the left' with a passion. They think that left wing parties and their supporters are in cohoots to let in loads more immigrants, trash the economy (whatever they believe that means) and introduce all sorts of middle class wokery that wastes money they could be getting. They believe they are the victims of snobbery, looked down on as stupid, and see any attempts to 'show them' anything as examples of this.
Those who have soft support for Reform may be disauaded by what they've seen. But the die hards will dig in or turn to Restore.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · Yesterday 23:17

Thank you for sharing, OP. I hope that there is now a full police investigation.

I don't suppose Reform voters will care though.

Firetreev · Yesterday 23:18

5128gap · Yesterday 23:15

We can't. Hard core Reform supporters typically hate 'the left' with a passion. They think that left wing parties and their supporters are in cohoots to let in loads more immigrants, trash the economy (whatever they believe that means) and introduce all sorts of middle class wokery that wastes money they could be getting. They believe they are the victims of snobbery, looked down on as stupid, and see any attempts to 'show them' anything as examples of this.
Those who have soft support for Reform may be disauaded by what they've seen. But the die hards will dig in or turn to Restore.

Sadly, you're probably right with regard to the hard core supporters.

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XigDoop · Yesterday 23:32

Scrote should be in prison.

randomchap · Yesterday 23:52

Yay. You're here to defend and distract. Quick point at other parties. Some whataboutery, false equivalence, that'll help my team.

Firetreev · Today 00:01

randomchap · Yesterday 23:52

Yay. You're here to defend and distract. Quick point at other parties. Some whataboutery, false equivalence, that'll help my team.

They never actually defend their side, because they're indefensible, it's always just whataboutery! Or they claim it's a stitch up by the big bad establishment.

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randomchap · Today 00:07

Firetreev · Today 00:01

They never actually defend their side, because they're indefensible, it's always just whataboutery! Or they claim it's a stitch up by the big bad establishment.

Or they'll fill the thread with links that are only tangentially relevant and claim the parties are all the same.

It's tedious

PerkingFaintly · Today 00:18

ThatLemonBear · Yesterday 22:07

Reform are terrible but sadly I think their “supporters” won’t care because “foreigners”. 🤦‍♀️

According to the investigation, their supporters ARE foreigners...

YouTube video at 10:29 mins:
C4 narrator: Orr claims the party is cash-strapped.
James Orr: We just don't have British resident donors, British entities that would support us. That's the grim reality.

Beepen · Today 00:20

Yanbu. It's deeply horrifying (and yet unsurprising)

Beepen · Today 00:22

And it really alarms me that reform paid (via a third party) for a polling company to create the poll results they wanted in order to put pressure on the government

That polling company is seriously corrupt too

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Today 00:23

Watched it and really hope it does the trick

Giraffehaver · Today 00:28

Grifters the lot of them

TooBigForMyBoots · Today 00:52

5128gap · Yesterday 23:15

We can't. Hard core Reform supporters typically hate 'the left' with a passion. They think that left wing parties and their supporters are in cohoots to let in loads more immigrants, trash the economy (whatever they believe that means) and introduce all sorts of middle class wokery that wastes money they could be getting. They believe they are the victims of snobbery, looked down on as stupid, and see any attempts to 'show them' anything as examples of this.
Those who have soft support for Reform may be disauaded by what they've seen. But the die hards will dig in or turn to Restore.

When it comes to Reform, the left is anyone they're told to hate on that particular day.🤷‍♀️

Middle class
Working class
Metropolitan elite
Disabled people
Global elite
Black people
Muslims
Jews
Immigrants
Women
Kemi Badenoch🤦‍♀️

It's all a load of shite profiting at least one🤔 Limited Company, at the expense of the UK.

Fucking Traitors!😡😡😡

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