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AIBU to be so sick of tradespeople/ cleaners asking for cash in hand?

503 replies

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

OP posts:
grinandslothit · 05/09/2026 12:40

I don't think I would like it if it is just somewhat large sum of money. as other posters have mentioned it can be used to dodge paying child maintenance which I would care about more so than the taxes plus just getting that amount in cash is a hassle to me

Ladygodalmighty · 05/09/2026 14:34

Badbadbunny · 04/09/2026 23:12

Not just vat. If they don’t declare it savesthem income tax and nic, also helps them evade child maintenance and maybe even benefit fraud. They may pay their workers in cash in hand too saving employers nic, workplace pension, etc.

This! While at the same time his employees are probably claiming benefits. It's FRAUD! Every honest tax payers is subsiding these thieves! No wonder the Country's finances are in such a state. It's criminal and not victimless as the perpetrators would have us believe 😡

LambBot · 06/09/2026 01:59

Just my own experience. I had a cleaner who was very good and came via one of those friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend referrals.

I knew a bit about her personal circumstances and knew that money was quite tight for her. Because of that, I deliberately paid her roughly what I would have paid a commercial cleaning company, so considerably more than the usual direct hourly rate. I’ve never felt particularly comfortable with getting cheap labour by underpaying someone who may be in a vulnerable financial position.

Our arrangement was that I paid her by bank transfer every Friday, because that’s when I do my banking. I was a very steady and reliable payer, so she knew exactly when the money would arrive, and it worked perfectly well for a couple of months.

Then she started insisting that she wanted to be paid cash on the day. Initially I wondered whether it was simply because she was cash poor and needed the money immediately for groceries or other day-to-day expenses. I was sympathetic to that, but at the same time it was quite inconvenient for me to make sure I had cash available every time she came. Paying on Friday meant I knew exactly what I owed for the week, including if she’d been off sick or hadn’t come for some reason, and I could just transfer it.

When I said I wanted to stick with the arrangement we’d agreed, she got quite huffy about it. That did make me wonder whether there was another reason she particularly wanted cash rather than a bank transfer, potentially because of tax or benefits, although obviously I didn’t know that for certain.

I found the whole thing quite tricky. I was genuinely trying to do the right thing. I was paying her very well, I was a reliable payer, and I was conscious of her circumstances. But I also didn’t want my sympathy for her situation to mean I was being taken advantage of, or to find myself inadvertently facilitating something fraudulent.

She moved on a couple of months later, which was disappointing because she was an excellent cleaner. I did um and ah about whether I should report my concerns, but in the end decided it wasn’t really my business to speculate about what she was or wasn’t declaring. I’d paid her properly, all my payments were documented, and what she did about her own tax or benefits was ultimately her responsibility.

It was just one of those situations where trying to be fair and decent to someone while also maintaining sensible boundaries became surprisingly complicated.

changeme4this · 06/09/2026 04:11

There’s a lot of self employed people asking for cash only. The ones I can immediately think of are untrained in their ‘industry’ and possibly not familiar with business deductions that would reduce their taxable amount legally.

Toodarktooearly · Yesterday 06:27

PuppyMonkey · 03/09/2026 17:09

You do know it’s not compulsory for you to contribute - especially when you haven’t got much time. Grin

Agree if you can't read the thread and quite deliberately choose not to don't join in

Augustus40 · Yesterday 06:43

It is a well known fact 50% of the UK is subsisting off benefit claims and cash in hand jobs. I am obviously not suggesting roofers plumbers and electricians are claiming benefits but everybody self employed needs a little bit of cash in hand as they do not get an employer pension sick leave and annual leave. This has been going on for years. Personally I do not question this too much and most professionals will be registered at HMRC.
Only 15% of the UK is self employed which leads to misunderstandings as the majority is an employee.

Toodarktooearly · Yesterday 06:48

Augustus40 · Yesterday 06:43

It is a well known fact 50% of the UK is subsisting off benefit claims and cash in hand jobs. I am obviously not suggesting roofers plumbers and electricians are claiming benefits but everybody self employed needs a little bit of cash in hand as they do not get an employer pension sick leave and annual leave. This has been going on for years. Personally I do not question this too much and most professionals will be registered at HMRC.
Only 15% of the UK is self employed which leads to misunderstandings as the majority is an employee.

'well known fact' really? It's a guess and a wilfully inaccurate one if 15% are selfemployed

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:36

Yep, I'm SE too, I declare everything. I'm autistic too, I love rules and I probably wouldn't be able to stop myself quizzing them on why they don't want to pay tax etc. It gives the rest of us a bad name. When asked if I'll take cash for less, I say it's the same but I'm half-tempted to say it will cost more as I have to take the time to travel to a bank, and pay a higher fee to deposit it than I pay for other methods.
I seem to be lucky though that I've always found the tradespeople who take transfers or card payment.

Bolon · Yesterday 14:41

If you’re not happy paying cash just drop casually into the quoting convo that you work for HMRC. That tends to ensure you’re dealing with legitimate companies.

ScotchBonnet74 · Yesterday 14:53

It would depend for me. If it's a tradesperson I would pay by bank transfer so I have a record of having paid in case of any problems down the line. If it's the neighbour's teenager washing cars to earn a few quid, then cash is fine. I don't think though that we should assume that everyone who prefers cash is either avoiding paying tax or child benefit.

whatsit84 · Yesterday 15:00

CarrieOakie · 03/09/2026 06:57

Try finding a nail bar that accepts anything but cash, there are thousands of them up and don’t the country. They avoid income tax and business rates

thousands of people getting their nails done & they must realise what’s happening?

I’ve been to 3 different nail bars within the past year which all accept card….

ScotchBonnet74 · Yesterday 15:20

whatsit84 · Yesterday 15:00

I’ve been to 3 different nail bars within the past year which all accept card….

I have never been to a nail bar in my whole life!

Noras · Yesterday 15:21

Well as I can see cash money being abandoned and only bank transfers in the very near future - I don’t worry toot much. I give cash about 10 or 15 years and then it will be a thing of the past. There will be online check in places for those with no phone or internet who can put monies onto a card.

TheFormerMrsTruelove · Yesterday 15:23

rwalker · 03/09/2026 06:52

In the big scheme of things it makes no difference to him he gets £1800 cash or £2200 transfer after tax that’s more or less £1800

It makes a huge difference to him because it changes the amount he’d need to charge you to get himself that £1800.

If you’re someone who isn’t really concerned with what tax someone else is paying, and you’ve got two equally qualified and experienced tradesmen giving you quotes of £1800 in cash and £2200 by bank transfer, then the majority will go for the £1800 cash quote. Which leaves the £2200 tradesman with no job because he’s been undercut.

I’m not saying it’s right. But it happens.

Steeleydan · Yesterday 18:06

Plinketyplonks · 03/09/2026 06:31

Yes, we uncovered loads of problems with our walls (old house) during decoration and urgently needed a plasterer. Decorator recommended one who might squeeze us in. He came round to quote - £1800 if cash in hand, £2,200 if bank transfer. Why should he get away with not paying tax? 😡

Edited

The 2.2k would be with vat if it had to go through his books, the 1.8k cash would avoid vat

GallowayESS · Yesterday 18:15

Sartre · 03/09/2026 06:49

Let’s not also forget the many men who do it to dodge child maintenance… It’s dodgy, you’re right.

Exactly THIS. Its rife! Extremely common behaviour, its purely 2 different economies running! How this can be left to fester is beyond me!

HMRC (we) loose millions/billions, we all pay for their welfare, whilst they declare no tax/NI, whilst its seemingly okay for them not to pay for their child/children! Hypocrites of the worse kind.

Unfortunately for them, they are not bright enough to declare top end earnings & then pay into any kind of pension, thus will be working until they are 95y/o & living on poverty pension (sob, sob).

Talk about chopping your nose off to spite your face!

Bolon · Yesterday 18:19

Steeleydan · Yesterday 18:06

The 2.2k would be with vat if it had to go through his books, the 1.8k cash would avoid vat

And income tax, and NICs and child maintenance…

Daisymay1000 · Yesterday 18:36

Endlesspasswords · 03/09/2026 06:21

So my cleaner charges £21/hour cash, but just said she wants more if I pay by bank transfer, because bank transfer means she can’t dodge declaring it. As if paying by transfer (i.e. traceably) is some kind of favour/ privilege I should pay extra for.

Same with some work I got a quote for- it’s the attitude that if I don’t want to pay in cash, I’m the one ‘hurting’ their bank balance or being awkward.

I’m freelance B2B myself. No sick pay, no employer pension contributions, no paid holiday, I know exactly what it’s like to carry your own tax and NI. But I still pay tax on every invoice, because that’s the deal.

I’m so sick with the fact that self-employed people in one sector get to treat tax as optional while others pay for their healthcare, schools etc.

and yes, I’m getting a new cleaner.

If someone prefers cash just let them take cash? What’s the issue. The multi million pound organisations tax dodging are the problem, not the tradesman just trying to put food on the table.

Softcream · Yesterday 18:45

Daisymay1000 · Yesterday 18:36

If someone prefers cash just let them take cash? What’s the issue. The multi million pound organisations tax dodging are the problem, not the tradesman just trying to put food on the table.

And what about the single mums trying to put food on the table whose exes are using cash in hand to avoid paying maintenance?

Badbadbunny · Yesterday 19:07

Bolon · Yesterday 18:19

And income tax, and NICs and child maintenance…

And probably inflate his benefit claims too due to undeclared income!!

Badbadbunny · Yesterday 19:07

Softcream · Yesterday 18:45

And what about the single mums trying to put food on the table whose exes are using cash in hand to avoid paying maintenance?

What about the single Mums working in proper jobs under PAYE who are having to suffer tax and NIC deductions???

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 20:40

Guys, on another thread the majority voted for 'not dobbing a person for a cash-in hand job'????? How come MN have such opposing views on the same subject, by a wide majority???? Please explain.

Bowies · Yesterday 23:12

Sartre · 03/09/2026 06:49

Let’s not also forget the many men who do it to dodge child maintenance… It’s dodgy, you’re right.

Exactly.
YANBU OP, it’s tax fraud by default IMO if you pay cash, knowing the reason is they don’t want to declare earnings.

askmenow · Today 09:24

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · 03/09/2026 07:13

I don't think takeaways and other shops that say they prefer or only accept cash are necessarily seeking to cheat their taxes.

Often, they're just trying to avoid unnecessary bank fees - so they can pay themselves/wages direct from income rather than having to bank it first and lose a chunk before they access it again.

Of course, some of them may well be cheating on their tax as well; but it's far from a given. After all, whilst a tradie can claim that they've worked much less than they actually have, it would be much harder to hide and lie when everybody can clearly see your constant stream of customers in your high street premises.

But who checks? Not the Councils.
Every local Chinese takeaway I’ve ever visited takes only cash. It’s infuriating.

BrezhnevsLuxuriantEyebrows · Today 10:18

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 20:40

Guys, on another thread the majority voted for 'not dobbing a person for a cash-in hand job'????? How come MN have such opposing views on the same subject, by a wide majority???? Please explain.

Different people engaging in different threads? If all of us on MN felt exactly the same about all manner of topics, we wouldn't have all of the, ahem, 'robust discussions' that we do!!

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