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School children should receive free bus travel before pensioners?

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Itchthescratch · 01/09/2026 17:02

My child is starting a school where it will cost around £2k for bus travel. This school is local and one of the closest schools to us. The other schools close to us are much worse in terms of opportunities and academic outcomes. I can afford the bus fare easily but I worry that some poorer families will really struggle to send their children to the higher achieving school because of the cost.

I understand that there isn't an endless pot of money but surely it would make sense to give school children free travel ahead of other groups like pensioners? School children are statistically much more likely to suffer from poverty (child poverty is almost double pensioner poverty)and it seems crazy that we aren't supporting social mobility whilst we let all pensioners travel for free on buses.

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Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:27

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 14:19

I don't care if it's legislation. That doesn't make it right. If this was the case then people wouldn't have argued against and successfully brought about changes in legislation that made homosexuuality a crime or protected slavery. I'm sure the protests against these laws were very wearing for those who were in change of enforcing them at the time but that doesn't make the protests wrong.

Jesus Christ 🤣🤣🤣.

Homosexuality and slavery are not on a par with you making a decision to send your weans to a school that’s not your local one.

Are you quite ok?

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:27

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:25

That’s why you pay transport.

For sure, but over £1k? If it were a reasonable cost it would be okay. My mum doesn't remember how much my bus travel to school was, but she said that proportionally it was nothing like it is now

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:31

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:27

For sure, but over £1k? If it were a reasonable cost it would be okay. My mum doesn't remember how much my bus travel to school was, but she said that proportionally it was nothing like it is now

Probably because you went to your local school.

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:33

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:31

Probably because you went to your local school.

No, I was sent to the only Catholic school, a similar distance to the one DD has now. There was a secondary at the top of my road, but non-Catholic so we had to travel

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:36

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:33

No, I was sent to the only Catholic school, a similar distance to the one DD has now. There was a secondary at the top of my road, but non-Catholic so we had to travel

Yes so it was your local Catholic school. Did you go to a Catholic primary?

BigMartin · Yesterday 14:39

MiddleAgedDread · 01/09/2026 17:13

they do, but a lot of people also pay more in tax......

It’s not that much more and I am happy to pay it. I have probably saved more in bus fares and prescription costs than I have paid in extra taxes.

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:41

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:36

Yes so it was your local Catholic school. Did you go to a Catholic primary?

Yes that was about 2 miles away, the secondary was the opposite side of the town. Not sure what you're getting at though? If bus travel were affordable, she'd get the bus, but as it is I can only work around 4hrs a day. I'm not saying it'd even need to be free, but it's too expensive to be feasible

myavocadoisgrowing · Yesterday 14:45

dustabsorber · 01/09/2026 17:20

The pensioners have contributed by working and paying tax for 35 years

by the time I get my state pension (later this year) I will have worked for 49 years.

MiddleAgedDread · Yesterday 15:06

BigMartin · Yesterday 14:39

It’s not that much more and I am happy to pay it. I have probably saved more in bus fares and prescription costs than I have paid in extra taxes.

speak for yourself, it costs me about £1500 a year extra in tax to live in Scotland than in England. It's £114.50 for a 12month prescription certificate in England and I don't use the bus more than 3 or 4 times a week, if that.

YourGoldLurker · Yesterday 15:49

lilkitten · Yesterday 13:03

I agree, my DDs school is over £1k a year to use the bus, and I work part time to be able to drop her off and pick her up as it's 5 miles from our home (literally in what was until then a field).
I'm not earning enough to be able to afford the bus fare. People don't believe it's £1k, and when I was at school the bus was proportionately a lot cheaper. If she could get the bus, I could work 30hrs a week instead of 18hrs and therefore pay more taxes, so it would make sense.
I know it's probably my middle-class-ness, but I also don't personally know any pensioners in need of their bus pass. My dad uses it to get some exercise rather than rely on driving door-to-door (excellent idea), but he doesn't need it as his pension income is around double DP and I's combined income.

My mum doesn't drive and her bus pass is a god send for her. She's also far from rich. Until today in our area there was no fare cap and prices were ridiculous.

Somersetbaker · Yesterday 16:30

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 13:56

It's such a huge disadvantage for a young child to walk that distance before and after school. It means that they will have less time for extra curricular activities and to play with their friends. Less time for homework and just being able to unwind after a long day. It means that they might often get to school quite wet and cold in the depths of winter.

An eight year old is significantly shorter than an adult so a 2 mile walk for them is different than a two mile walk for an adult with double the leg span. It would be around 12 thousand steps both ways which easily fulfils their step requirement it itself without factoring in play time and other walking the child is likely to do. Only 20% of adults walk over 12k steps a day so most people commenting that these kinds of distances are easy are complete hypocrites.

Lets face it, with the increasing number of obese children, most of them could do with the extra exercise.

JenniferBooth · Yesterday 16:36

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:27

Jesus Christ 🤣🤣🤣.

Homosexuality and slavery are not on a par with you making a decision to send your weans to a school that’s not your local one.

Are you quite ok?

I was just about to say the same thing...........How the fuck can it be compared with the prejudice hatred and in some cases violence that the gay community have faced.

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 16:46

JenniferBooth · Yesterday 16:36

I was just about to say the same thing...........How the fuck can it be compared with the prejudice hatred and in some cases violence that the gay community have faced.

Are you capable of comprehending a post properly? I wasn't at all suggesting that the issues were equivalent just that the fact that something exists in legislation doesn't mean it's automatically the morally correct or right thing to do. I used some extreme examples to show just how wrong legislation can be.

It's a bit desperate to purposely miscomprehend a post, make your own straw argument and then argue against it to try and undermine posters. It adds literally nothing to any debate by being so ridiculous

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Itchthescratch · Yesterday 16:46

Somersetbaker · Yesterday 16:30

Lets face it, with the increasing number of obese children, most of them could do with the extra exercise.

Pensioners are statistically more likely to be obese than kids

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Itchthescratch · Yesterday 16:49

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 14:27

Jesus Christ 🤣🤣🤣.

Homosexuality and slavery are not on a par with you making a decision to send your weans to a school that’s not your local one.

Are you quite ok?

Are you ok? Where do I state they are equivalent issues? Nowhere because that's not the argument I'm making at all.

Your insistence that because something is backed by legislation then it must remain the same and never be challenged is plainly wrong. I used extreme examples to prove how blindly following rules and legislation and never raising concerns can lead us to terrible situations. I don't agree that little kids should be walking two miles to school. I don't care that legislation states this is OK, I don't agree with the legislation. I don't care if it's tiresome to you.

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Differentforgirls · Yesterday 16:51

lilkitten · Yesterday 14:41

Yes that was about 2 miles away, the secondary was the opposite side of the town. Not sure what you're getting at though? If bus travel were affordable, she'd get the bus, but as it is I can only work around 4hrs a day. I'm not saying it'd even need to be free, but it's too expensive to be feasible

Sorry. Was just comparing me and my sons at school. We all went to Catholic primaries at walking distance then Catholic secondaries where we had to travel. They got transport as they were more than two miles away (dedicated bus) and I didn’t!

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 16:54

MiddleAgedDread · Yesterday 15:06

speak for yourself, it costs me about £1500 a year extra in tax to live in Scotland than in England. It's £114.50 for a 12month prescription certificate in England and I don't use the bus more than 3 or 4 times a week, if that.

You’ll get free personal care!

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 16:56

JenniferBooth · Yesterday 16:36

I was just about to say the same thing...........How the fuck can it be compared with the prejudice hatred and in some cases violence that the gay community have faced.

I know!

MiddleAgedDread · Yesterday 16:57

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 16:54

You’ll get free personal care!

free what??

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 16:58

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 16:49

Are you ok? Where do I state they are equivalent issues? Nowhere because that's not the argument I'm making at all.

Your insistence that because something is backed by legislation then it must remain the same and never be challenged is plainly wrong. I used extreme examples to prove how blindly following rules and legislation and never raising concerns can lead us to terrible situations. I don't agree that little kids should be walking two miles to school. I don't care that legislation states this is OK, I don't agree with the legislation. I don't care if it's tiresome to you.

You used extreme examples because you moan about money on every thread. Cut your cloth to fit!

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:00

MiddleAgedDread · Yesterday 16:57

free what??

Personal care at home if you need it.

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 17:01

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 16:58

You used extreme examples because you moan about money on every thread. Cut your cloth to fit!

Even this post makes no sense. What the old saying about arguing with people that drag you down to their level...

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Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:06

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 17:01

Even this post makes no sense. What the old saying about arguing with people that drag you down to their level...

Aye you’re right. Thanks for reminding me that young men dying alone of aids and being blamed for it is on a par with paying 2k for a choice you’ve made and obviously can’t afford.

In my time in school transport it was always the people pretending to have money that caused the biggest fuss about paying for the weans they chose to have.

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 17:35

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:06

Aye you’re right. Thanks for reminding me that young men dying alone of aids and being blamed for it is on a par with paying 2k for a choice you’ve made and obviously can’t afford.

In my time in school transport it was always the people pretending to have money that caused the biggest fuss about paying for the weans they chose to have.

The only person even suggesting they are on a parr is you. I have never suggested such a thing. You have been corrected and you still spew out this weird, hateful narrative that doesn't align with what's actually been written. It feels that you just write stuff at random.

And your final paragraph is just stereotypes isn't it? How would you know if they were pretending to have money or actually had money? You don't have access to their bank account or a list of their investments. Just more rubbish not backed up by facts.

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Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:38

Itchthescratch · Yesterday 17:35

The only person even suggesting they are on a parr is you. I have never suggested such a thing. You have been corrected and you still spew out this weird, hateful narrative that doesn't align with what's actually been written. It feels that you just write stuff at random.

And your final paragraph is just stereotypes isn't it? How would you know if they were pretending to have money or actually had money? You don't have access to their bank account or a list of their investments. Just more rubbish not backed up by facts.

The fact is, I knew. Do you think we awarded transport based on SFA? We had their ADDRESSES which we used to see if their children qualified.

It’s not rocket science.

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