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School children should receive free bus travel before pensioners?

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Itchthescratch · 01/09/2026 17:02

My child is starting a school where it will cost around £2k for bus travel. This school is local and one of the closest schools to us. The other schools close to us are much worse in terms of opportunities and academic outcomes. I can afford the bus fare easily but I worry that some poorer families will really struggle to send their children to the higher achieving school because of the cost.

I understand that there isn't an endless pot of money but surely it would make sense to give school children free travel ahead of other groups like pensioners? School children are statistically much more likely to suffer from poverty (child poverty is almost double pensioner poverty)and it seems crazy that we aren't supporting social mobility whilst we let all pensioners travel for free on buses.

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Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:03

FourSevenFive · 02/09/2026 15:57

They voted for the governments responsible, most of them didn't try to stand in elections to do better, or campaign, or riot, or write articles or care.

To give a specific example - the generation which bought council houses and didn't even ask about them not being replaced should at least acknowledge that current families don't have the same options.

Thankfully no one has the right to buy anymore in Scotland and I voted for the govt that stopped it.

JenniferBooth · 02/09/2026 16:04

FourSevenFive · 02/09/2026 15:57

They voted for the governments responsible, most of them didn't try to stand in elections to do better, or campaign, or riot, or write articles or care.

To give a specific example - the generation which bought council houses and didn't even ask about them not being replaced should at least acknowledge that current families don't have the same options.

Are you fucking joking Have you seen the shit i get on here for standing up for social housing tenants? Dont recall many backing me up on the recent Reform thread when i was told i shouldnt be in SH because i dont have kids. And they would be Gen X (same as me) or millenials

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:05

Have you watched a bbc film called “Pride”?

JenniferBooth · 02/09/2026 16:10

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:05

Have you watched a bbc film called “Pride”?

Yes Loved it

This is also really good

https://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/faith/

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:13

JenniferBooth · 02/09/2026 16:10

Yes Loved it

This is also really good

https://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/faith/

Is that keeping faith? The link didn’t work.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:14

JenniferBooth · 02/09/2026 16:10

Yes Loved it

This is also really good

https://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/faith/

Btw, I can’t watch the “bread and roses” scene without bubbling like a baby!

JenniferBooth · 02/09/2026 16:16

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:13

Is that keeping faith? The link didn’t work.

This might be better
www.imdb.com/title/tt0436294/

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:19

walrushurricane · 02/09/2026 14:23

Or we could just not spend any money on children travelling to schools miles away because their parents don't want to send them to local ones. Easily done if all children have to go to the nearest school as happened in the 80s. That would benefit poorer children too as they wouldn't be left in a school that nobody else wants to go to.

What if the nearest school is a poor school? At least at the moment, people have a choice to send their kids to a better school if their local one is a "crap comp".

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:21

FourSevenFive · 02/09/2026 15:42

Pensioners are the generation which is the most responsible for the current state of the UK, much more than current parents and indefinitely more responsible than current children. And, as a generation, you are more responsible, than the current government.

Ok, now it is clear that your good faith didn't work out. What now? Is it better to let your generation to eat the little wealth which remains as well, because means testing free public transport would be pensioners bashing, or share it with people who didn't have a slightest say into getting the state to the current misery?

Good faith is a nice thing, but it sounds very close to "I'm all right, Jack".

Nail on the head with all that.

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:22

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 15:54

What kind of area do you live in where “sink” schools (whatever they are) are the norm?

Normally the deprived regions, run-down ex-seaside resorts, run down ex-industrial towns, run down ex mining towns, etc etc.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:31

JenniferBooth · 02/09/2026 16:16

This might be better
www.imdb.com/title/tt0436294/

No! Going to though. Thank you.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:33

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:19

What if the nearest school is a poor school? At least at the moment, people have a choice to send their kids to a better school if their local one is a "crap comp".

So when you mean “choice”, what do you mean? Do they need to apply? Will they get transport etc? I don’t have a clue as it’s different up here.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:34

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:21

Nail on the head with all that.

No it isn’t unless you clarify the country where pensioners voted Tory.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 16:35

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:22

Normally the deprived regions, run-down ex-seaside resorts, run down ex-industrial towns, run down ex mining towns, etc etc.

Well we have those areas in abundance but I would say that there are very few schools that are “sink” schools.

Araminta1004 · 02/09/2026 17:47

@Differentforgirls - I am in London near a mainline station and a tube. We get a choice of 6 schools for secondary. Some are distance, some are lottery, some are 11 plus if you are willing to catch a train or tube as most are in the burbs and some are eg music/language aptitude. If your kid is academic and musical and good at language reasoning (which is weird code basically) you get lots and lots of choice potentially for 11-16. And for post 16 if your kids get good GCSE’s then you get the choice of any sixth form pretty much, some are specialist like maths/artsy. As public transport is cheap and everywhere as long as your kid is willing to travel there is arguably too much choice. And if you aren’t rich and have a talented child then a lot of bursaries at private schools too if you have a talent of any sort.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 17:48

Araminta1004 · 02/09/2026 17:47

@Differentforgirls - I am in London near a mainline station and a tube. We get a choice of 6 schools for secondary. Some are distance, some are lottery, some are 11 plus if you are willing to catch a train or tube as most are in the burbs and some are eg music/language aptitude. If your kid is academic and musical and good at language reasoning (which is weird code basically) you get lots and lots of choice potentially for 11-16. And for post 16 if your kids get good GCSE’s then you get the choice of any sixth form pretty much, some are specialist like maths/artsy. As public transport is cheap and everywhere as long as your kid is willing to travel there is arguably too much choice. And if you aren’t rich and have a talented child then a lot of bursaries at private schools too if you have a talent of any sort.

Thank you 😊

walrushurricane · 02/09/2026 18:12

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:19

What if the nearest school is a poor school? At least at the moment, people have a choice to send their kids to a better school if their local one is a "crap comp".

The fact that some parents with the will and money can select a diffeent school just makes it worse for those left behind though.

Differentforgirls · 02/09/2026 18:38

walrushurricane · 02/09/2026 18:12

The fact that some parents with the will and money can select a diffeent school just makes it worse for those left behind though.

I'm going to be honest here. I think a school which has young people from every demographic helps every one of them.

It helps the children see that not everyone is as privileged / skint as they are and that money isn't everything though it helps.

You can have a skint family who have a great family dynamic and are as happy as Larry and a better off family who are all about how things look rather than how things are.

Keeping your children in a bubble where they think everyone owns a pony and goes skiing isn't healthy.

Same as having your children in a bubble where people live on benefits and think it's normal also isn't healthy.

No wonder the UK is fucked. Our priorities are divide and conquer which, in 2026, is fucking appalling.

SeriousTissues · 02/09/2026 18:39

Badbadbunny · 02/09/2026 16:19

What if the nearest school is a poor school? At least at the moment, people have a choice to send their kids to a better school if their local one is a "crap comp".

I didn’t go to the nearest school in the 80s! My bus fare was 9p each way, although I got a lift from a neighbour of a morning.

My daughter goes to the nearest school in our area. However there is a school marginally closer out of the area and with no transport to it. Because of this we pay £80 for a school bus, whereas a neighbour’s child gets the bus free because they live marginally closer to the school they both go to.

Velumental · 02/09/2026 18:43

Iceandfire92 · 01/09/2026 17:16

I think they should ban school children from the mainstream rush hour bus services personally, rather than handing them free travel! They should just provide school buses for those who don't live within walking distance. It can be IMPOSSIBLE to get to work on time if you rely on a bus. I've witnessed it all too often, kids boarding the buses in huge groups, taking up all of the space and they tend to only stay on the bus for a few stops.

That's a lack of service issue, how do you propose the kids get to school? Because eimagine that hoarde of 10 kids as 10 extra cars on the road

Pumpkinpie1 · 02/09/2026 18:56

What’s ridiculous is that Scotland and wales gives those of us over 60 free bus travel and yet again in ENGLAND WEhave to wait until we are 67! The fact no one can afford to retire is the stick we are being beaten with!

Iceandfire92 · 02/09/2026 19:47

Velumental · 02/09/2026 18:43

That's a lack of service issue, how do you propose the kids get to school? Because eimagine that hoarde of 10 kids as 10 extra cars on the road

Make them walk. It may do something to tackle the childhood obesity crisis.

Seymour5 · 02/09/2026 19:51

Lludmilla · 02/09/2026 15:46

It doesn't just come down to 'choices'. Education, aptitude and opportunity all have a part to play in shaping a person's life.

And health. However, I agree. All these things, plus luck of course, played their part whilst we strove to reach our golden years.

I was a child, not poor, not rich, in the fifties. There was some serious poverty around then, but also there wasn’t nearly so much consumerism, so more of a family’s income went on basics. No foodbanks, and benefits were minimal. Make do and mend was the norm. My mother, who was born before WWI considered herself and her siblings lucky because they had boots. I was lucky, because we had an indoor bathroom.

I was a worker most of my life, and at one time paid 33% as basic income tax. I’ve bought a house, budgeted for around 8% interest, it went up to 15%. People lost their homes, we scraped by and hung on. Coped without power during the time of the three day week. As parents, we did our best to give our DC opportunities that we didn’t have, they grasped them. Not expensive holidays, or designer clothes, just aspiration and a work ethic. They have passed those values on to the DGC. The kind of family that does their best, pays their way, doesn’t behave anti socially, etc., etc.

I’ve a DH who had a serious health issue in middle age, which decimated our income, so I had to keep working past retirement age. Now I am an older pensioner, my state pension is low, but my occupational pension lifts us a bit above Pension Credit levels. I value my bus pass, it got me to hospital today. I use the bus when I’m volunteering too.

Until we reach each stage of life, we don’t really know what it feels like. I was pleased women no longer had to give up certain jobs on marriage; that the childcare that wasn’t available for me as a parent, was there for my DCs’ and further generations; that further and higher education, and entry into professional careers was much more accessible. My generation rarely received inheritances, but as pointed out before, all our accumulated wealth will be passed down to benefit younger people, along with a slice from the really wealthy going to the government.

SeriousTissues · 02/09/2026 20:24

Iceandfire92 · 02/09/2026 19:47

Make them walk. It may do something to tackle the childhood obesity crisis.

Children aren’t allowed to walk to my daughter’s school. The vast majority arrive by school bus. Not all schools are in towns with good transport links, or safe roads to walk on.

KilkennyCats · 02/09/2026 20:52

SeriousTissues · 02/09/2026 20:24

Children aren’t allowed to walk to my daughter’s school. The vast majority arrive by school bus. Not all schools are in towns with good transport links, or safe roads to walk on.

They’re literally prevented from walking?
Surely all schools have safe roads leading from them to the nearest town / village?

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