To find this Dolly joke meme in bad taste?

[ITanya78]

I’ll just start by saying I do have a sense of humour so please don’t accuse me of not having one!

There’s a meme going round, mostly posted by men, of a coffin with moulded breast shapes on the lid referring to Dolly Parton’s passing.

I know she used to joke about it herself and may well have laughed at this but it feels a bit bad taste to me and a bit depressing in this day and age to see a late, great woman (or any woman!) reduced to just her breast size. Wish we could focus on her amazing character and all the good she did!

"It takes a lot of money to look this trashy"

Absolute legend

Yeah - Dolly Parton and Barbara Windsor were strong, independent, feisty women, who knew how to play the game, and do it all with a smile, some giggles, and enhancing their ‘assets’ for effect. They both knew how to laugh at themselves - a rare thing nowadays.

To suggest that they were somehow ‘suppressed’ by men is completely nuts.

They were both popular, enjoyed some dirty laughs, and did life on their terms, with no navel gazing. .

As it should be. 👍

@shadowsinthegroceryline "I would hope that most people could see that there is a clear difference between a woman making, often witty and self-deprecating remarks about her own appearance and strangers on the internet, probably mostly men, ignoring her life and legacy and reducing her to two body parts in order to make a cheap and crass 'joke'."

Beautifully put and I totally agree. I stupidly thought we'd gone past the stage of men reducing women to body parts. But it seems it's still alive and well and perfectly acceptable on Mumsnet. Dolly laughing at herself is not in any way comparable to a bunch of random men on the internet using her dead body for a cheap joke.

Absolutely. Both had a golden combination of talent and looks and used them to good effect. Both also did a great deal for charity, giving generously of their time and their money.

Dolly always had the last laugh .....RIP queen

Early 70's? I am 55 and can never remember this but maybe I was too young to realise?

Yes. Anyone with any brain cells knew what they did, laughed and said ‘good on you’.

Both were generous, both were up for a laugh, both had talent of different kinds, both made happy memories for others, and both did life as they wanted to.

To suggest they were some sort of victims is a bigger insult than tasteless jokes.

We should all salute women like them - not try to make them victims. 👍

RIP - both of them. 😉

I've always wondered if she joked about them because she knew men certainly would and she wanted to 'get there' first. (I also had very huge breasts, and navigating the world with what many men see as 'a dirty joke' on your chest can be very difficult and unpleasant).

She always said that being bought in grinding poverty, to a level we can’t imagine, over here, grounded her. She didn’t worry about non-important stuff. She just went with what she had.

She donated royalties from The Coat of Many Colours, which she wrote, in honour of her mother, to charity. She said it was a true account.

She knew what family love was, but she knew what real poverty did as well. She just took a pragmatic view - use what you’ve got and win the day. Which she did. And she gave a lot of money to those affected by poverty. Plus, her father was illiterate so that’s what started her donating books to so many children. 👍

There will never be another Dolly Parton. One of a kind. 🥂

They were implants. She chose to have huge breasts! As someone with natural huge breasts I’m at a loss as to why anyone would want to inflict that on themselves.

I think it’s quite funny (and a female colleague posted it to our group chat).

@ITanya78 @Deadringer @sittingonabeach @Jane379 @shadowsinthegroceryline et al.

TBH on the musicians forums I'm on - where the vast majority of posters - singers, songwriters, guitarists, bass players, drummers (they even let them in!) etc are men - there has been nothing but wholesome appreciation for her talents as a songwriter, performer, entrepreneur, for her philanthropy, her wit, generosity of spirit, etc - the forums have quickly filled up with many heart felt comments even from people who don't like country music - she's appreciated not just for her talents in music but for being a thoroughly decent and compassionate human being - that she should be appreciated just for that, I think, that marks her out as a very special person indeed. I've not seen a single misplaced comment. That was a life "well lived"!

Yes,,it's also really different when the joke is in the context of her death.

How is it 'politically correct' and 'humourless' to object to crass jokes about a dead woman's breasts?

If that's your idea of 'humour', I'm glad to be your idea of 'humourless!

There's a huge differences between the jokes she made while alive and strangers making these jokes about coffin when she's dead.

There's plenty of memes not about making light of people's bodies after their deaths.

She always joked about her big boobs. She would have laughed.

But this thread, to me, is about people on the Internet making these jokes after she's dead, specifically about her coffin.

Plenty of pps here aren't saying making jokes about her breasts is wrong, but that making them in the context of her coffin and recent death is. Very different.

And in the example pp was quoting, that was Barbara Windsor's husband. It's not Parton's late husband doing it here, it's random men on the Internet.

True. I think though plenty of her money was due to her talent alone ; her exaggerated look probably helped but if she'd had the look without the talent she wouldn't have got anywhere

This!

I think her death makes a huge difference: people saying 'she would have laughed' are missing the point that that's exactly the issue. She isn't here to laugh because she's dead : and making these jokes about someone's coffin after someone's died is disgusting.

How is that similar? As you say, he was Barbara's husband so probably knew she'd have wanted that.

Dolly's husband, poor man, is not here now. The men making this joke are randoms on the Internet.

@AbacusCat "It's harder to say whether that kind of risqué humour is inappropriate when it's an internet meme by randoms"

I don't think it's hard to say at all. Crass jokes about a woman's dead body from a bunch of random men on the internet is never going to be appropriate.

Jane 379 - People like you with no sense of humour are the reason why people like Dolly with a sense of humour are/were so refreshing. Being offended on someone else's behalf is tedious.

So disliking this crass joke about her coffin after her death means I have no sense of humour?
Now, that is funny! 🤣

Jane379 It isn't a crass joke, it's funny and Dolly would have laughed her head off.

Dolly the sheep was named after her, as she was cloned from a mammary cell. I think Dolly P was aware that she was well endowed!