Help protect children from gaming harms.

Take our survey

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Do female leaders and managers make better managers ?

86 replies

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · Yesterday 00:54

theres often talk about females being better than men and that if women had control of the world etc the world would be better and since they have not achieved that yet, part of the question can be answered by me asking do females / women make better managers than males and why ?

OP posts:
MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · Yesterday 23:00

GaIadriel · Yesterday 22:59

I mean, most female politicians can't define what a woman is. And it was a woman who supported putting male sex offenders in women's prisons.

Jesus help us

OP posts:
Gengha · Yesterday 23:01

Unfortunately all the women I’ve had as managers have been complete fucking cows

GaIadriel · Yesterday 23:27

Well....

Liz Truss - tanked economy in a few days

Rachel Thieves - not exactly winning the hearts and minds of the country

Maggie Thatcher - undermined the power of the unions to grievous effect

Angela Rayner - fraudster

Elizabeth Bathory - most prolific serial killer known to mankind

Bloody Mary - burned hundreds of protestants at the stake

Catherine de' Medici - instrumental in the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.

Ranavalona I - burned/boiled people alive. Killed much of the population through forced hard labour etc.

Wu Zetian - poisoned family members - had political rivals tortured etc.

Queen Fredegund - many assassinations

Probs many more.

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · Yesterday 23:31

GaIadriel · Yesterday 23:27

Well....

Liz Truss - tanked economy in a few days

Rachel Thieves - not exactly winning the hearts and minds of the country

Maggie Thatcher - undermined the power of the unions to grievous effect

Angela Rayner - fraudster

Elizabeth Bathory - most prolific serial killer known to mankind

Bloody Mary - burned hundreds of protestants at the stake

Catherine de' Medici - instrumental in the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre.

Ranavalona I - burned/boiled people alive. Killed much of the population through forced hard labour etc.

Wu Zetian - poisoned family members - had political rivals tortured etc.

Queen Fredegund - many assassinations

Probs many more.

so we then put all women in charge sit back with popcorn and think bloody jesus christ

OP posts:
Nugg · Yesterday 23:32

no. HTH

EBearhug · Yesterday 23:37

Yes, there are bad women managers, but there are many, many bad men managers, too.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 23:38

Not in my experience no. I would have a male boss over a female boss all day long.

Titaniasdream · Yesterday 23:42

I have had more male managers than female, but both my best and very worst managers were female. The men have all been sort of middlingly fine. The really good manager was phenomenal, she was so inspiring and a genuinely great leader, the worst almost caused me to have a nervous breakdown and disappointingly lived up to every tired stereotype I've ever heard about female leadership.

Some people are good and natural leaders, or at least are self aware enough to be conscious of, and work on, areas of weakness. Some people are rubbish and have no self awareness. I don't think sex or gender come into it at all, really.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · Yesterday 23:42

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 23:38

Not in my experience no. I would have a male boss over a female boss all day long.

Do you ever aspire to be a manager yourself?

EBearhug · Yesterday 23:44

Tomas Chamorto-Premuzic wrote Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? He says we value the wrong traits looking for leaders. The argument would hold true for women as much as men. It is not a question of someone's sex, but their abilities to plan, organise, communicate, listen, etc. Men and women can both do this well, or badly, but we tend to prefer charismatic personality more than proven ability in the areas which really matter in leadership.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · Yesterday 23:53

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · Yesterday 23:42

Do you ever aspire to be a manager yourself?

Not really. I owned a business for a decade and was much better just working alone and pulling 12 hour days. I did subcontract but I ended up doing most of the work myself and paying too well, so it didn’t work out.

I suppose I’ve had to step into a managerial role a couple of times and did a moderately good job. My problem is I can’t really deal with the scatty and idle. I get frustrated. I just expect everyone to crack on with stuff like i do and when they meander and prevaricate I just think I’ll do it myself, I see myself as more of a worker than a delegator. I always say that in every past life I’ve been in i would have been a peasant and a wench, a farm hand and a labourer.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page