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My own mother has cut me off

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EnglishRose26 · 25/08/2026 16:15

I grew up in a violent and unpredictable home as a child, my mother prioritised keeping my father happy over our safety. My father did not want children, and actively told us he neither liked us or loved us as small children and into adulthood, as such my mother has always been appeasing towards him, as he 'gave' her children. There seems to be a toxic, almost transactional element to their relationship. My therapist highlighted an element of covert narcissism as she said my mother's behaviour was really damaging as well, although I had always seen my mother as the victim (and not myself) my therapist felt it would be beneficial to be informed (she did not diagnose my mother, just highlighted traits) as she said my mother's gaslighting has been a form of abuse in itself over the years.

Fast forward to now, and due to my father's continuous violent outbursts and cruelty, with the help of MN over a decade ago, I had to stop him seeing my own dc for their safety. My mother never approved of my decision, and told me continually that we should still see him, that family is more important even as she acknowledged he is very harmful towards my dc, she expected to come before the safety and well being of my children.

For many years we managed to have a relationship with my mother, there was always resentment that we wouldn't include my father, but we muddled through. In the last few years though she stopped calling, stopped visiting and gradually showed little to no interest in our lives at all. It became an entirely text relationship with a few presents sent at xmas and birthdays.

I tried to speak to her about this multiple times, pleaded with her as to how we can improve our relationship but she just wouldn't engage/seemed uninterested, and blamed us for moving away (We only live around 2 hrs 50 mins away)

I even held out the olive branch to my father and said if he could just be nice to the children we can give it another go, he said no, he won't be nice for anyone, and he is what he is. Which was really difficult to hear at the time. He never spoke to us again (that was a few years ago) I didn't really expect him to start caring now realistically.

My mother calls her sister, and my sibling every night without fail, and sees her friend, family etc regularly, so there is no reason why she can't call me, but she never does. It has felt like a punishment for a long time.

I sent her a text to say how hurtful it is, that if she can't even occasionally call how can we have a relationship like this, and how much I would dearly love to be close to her. It was a tender text, and not remotely aggressive or accusory. It was mostly just a message of deep sadness, and acknowledging the distance between us. Incredibly she has now totally cut me off. She didn't reply, and hasn't since, she hasn't spoken to me - she has completely cut me off.

This was 4.5 months ago. I have no idea what to do. It feels like unless I am willing to stay in my role, and subject my children to any amount of abuse she can't or won't forgive me. A part of me is relieved that I no longer have to try and make it work, but a big part of me also feels really rejected, abandoned and quite devastated. She is my mother, I have no idea how she can do this to me. I could never treat anyone with such callous disregard like this.

She didn't text my dd to ask her about her A level results or to find out my cancer results, she has gone entirely no contact. AIBU to think this is really cruel? I feel like she is expecting me to grovel or apologise for saying I am hurt, but we should be able to talk about our feelings honestly and not be cut off surely. I would want to know if my children were sad! I now feel like she is a stranger, as who on earth would do this to their own child?

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 26/08/2026 12:05

Go take a look at the “stately homes” thread here on n mumsnet. A multi year thread for people from families like yours.

One if the worst things for you and your children is the secrecy snd shame of being the scapegoat or being identified as the cast off But you shouldn’t keep the secret any longer. That’s bad for you and bad for your children. Its a form of gaslighting, really.

“Speak the truth and shame the devil” they used to say. Try being honest, in an age appropriate way, with your children and friends. ”Actually my father is abusive and my mother is his enabler. In order to protect my children I have gone low contact. I’m not sure how I will handle issues around their old age and eventual deaths. I will handle it then, I suppose.”

Stop keeping their secret. Be honest snd direct starting with yourself and your memories. It will get easier.

Tonty · 26/08/2026 12:06

EnglishRose26 · 25/08/2026 16:52

It is like the living dead, they are still here walking around, living their lives in a different sphere and part of me feels the pain of knowing that. I panic regularly about what I would do if they did die, and how I would manage the funeral etc if I were to go or be told, because being cut off is very different from being the one choosing to walk away. Being cut off by your own parents lands you in a very helpless state of confusion initially and shock, because who the hell cuts off their kids without an exceptional reason? I think it must be rare.

I suspect you are all right, and they are both narcissistic in different ways, and I have just stopped serving a purpose. Choosing to step out of the drama, rather than remain in it, ofc I was supposed to be their carer in old age (hence the distance causing such a big problem for them) I actually wonder if my mother cared at all, or if I was entirely a 'means to an end' all along. Somehow I find it hard to be reduced to that.

And yes, I can't tolerate playing 'happy families' with someone that doesn't call me from one year to the next. It feels performative and pointless. It is just so my mother can say she has a lovely family and look at all the gifts, and the cards and flowers we send her. None of it is real or there is no real connection at all.
I just wondered if anyone else has experience of this. As lots of pp suggest low or no contact on here, but it always seems to be the child in the equation and very rarely the parents doing the no contact.

In exactly the same position. I have never met anyone in the same position but you describe it so eloquently. People rarely understand & assume its the adult dc that has cut the pzrent out but no, you arent alone and all the things youve thought about are things i have worried/panicked about over the yrs eg what happens when Mum/Dad dies?? Will i attend the funeral? But as what? The siblings also excluded me so what would be my role there? Or do i just 'mingle' with the guests? All valid questjons. Its been 27yrs now, and in the last few yrs something has started to shift, the damage is however done. I dont know where you are in this trajectory but there is a saying, "life's 2 greatest warriors, do you know their names?" Answer - Time and Patience.
My PMing doesnt work.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 26/08/2026 12:24

@EnglishRose26 you have done amazingly well, you were strong enough to break the cycle so your children don’t have to suffer the way you have done. Your brother hasn’t been able to do that and your parents are doing it again to their grandchildren. Are you able to contact your niece/nephew to let them know you are there if they need you?

MrsSlocombesCat · 26/08/2026 12:32

Narcissistic people need "fuel" and don't feel empathy. You will never get what you need from her so it's pointless trying. Make sure that if your father dies first you don't allow her back in, and if they ever need care refuse to help. Your brother has volunteered for that with his actions. Once you come to terms with it, embrace the freedom! You'll be fine and so will your children.

thestudio · 26/08/2026 12:42

Op, well done for protecting your children, seriously.

I think the question of why you want a relationship with a woman who is exactly who your therapist says she is - a narcissist and abuser - is absolutely critical. The answer /answers will help you so much.

I know you said that you can't afford therapy at the moment but not all charge that much. I think psychodynamic psychotherapy is the modality that will help you most.

Pureclass · 26/08/2026 13:12

My DH is in the same situation
His F never loved him and told him often that he had "stolen" his Mother from him.
He is a rude, aggressive bully.
DH is the eldest of 5 brothers- the rest are still involved in the circus.

Running around constantly trying to please him. 1 is very much the golden child and the rest try not to be cut off as DH has been. None of them talk to DH as they dont want to be kicked out of the family as DH has been.

His Mother has played the victim all her life. First being dominated by her father and then her husband. Domestic abuse was common. But she stayed and allowed her children to be raised in a scary and punishing home.

When I met DH his F started to make me his target too. I wasnt raised like this and refused to take it. Then he expanded to make my family his "victims". DH Mother joined in as she does what she is told.

It escalated quickly and through all sorts of means they tried to cancel our wedding. It went ahead anyway without them.

His Mother came back seeking forgiveness. And due to her role as the "victim" DH forgave her.

Yet their relationship was filled with her pushing a guilt laden narrative and constantly putting him and our new family down. He was a shit provider. Our DC were not making milestones. I was an unfit mother etc etc.

He went NC again

She continued to try and be part of our lives. Phoning and calling to try and make amends but within minutes of "making up" she would restart with lies and aggression against him.

This has been going on for almost 20 years.

He gave her the final chance in May - she met him and tried to attack him.

Through all this I and DC have never seen his family.

Unfortunately not all Mothers can be loving. Not all families are made to protect all their members.

You have made your own family and are treating them in the absolute best way by protecting them from the people who are unable to love them.

You are grieving a family who do not exist and that is perfectly ok. Everyone deserves a background of unconditional love and support. You have not had that. But you can give it to your children.

DH was embarrassed for years to talk about this to anyone. He started to open up in the past few years and has realised that it is much more common than he thought. A lot of people have serious family rifts or have not had the upbringing they deserve. It is not for you to be ashamed of.

His parents have no close relationships- apart from with the children they control. And control is the very correct word.
They have fallen out with neighbours, colleagues, been fired from jobs, have no contact with other family members.

You are not the problem. You have found the solution by getting away.

I wish you all the best OP. Its a very difficult and seems taboo. But you have broken the cycle- your brother hasnt.
You are so so so much in the better place 💓

vincettenoir · 26/08/2026 13:20

Im sorry OP, that’s hugely disappointing so of course you are still reeling from it. Unfortunately you just need to sit with the pain and accept things are the way they are. Over time it will sting less. Especially as you invest more of your focus on your life in the town you live in.

KaleidoscopeSmile · 26/08/2026 14:20

NCForOneNightOnly · 25/08/2026 18:35

Not an enormous fan but I ran your dilemma through AI and there may be some interesting insights in the response;

You are not being unreasonable; your mother's complete cutoff and refusal to acknowledge your honest expression of hurt is exceptionally cruel and emotionally manipulative. 1]
Why Her Behavior is Cruel

  • The Silent Treatment: Ignoring you for months after a gentle, honest text is a deliberate punishment, not a miscommunication.
  • Lack of Basic Empathy: A loving mother would care about major life events like cancer results or exam achievements, but she has chosen total emotional abandonment.
  • Rewriting Reality: She expects you to apologize for your feelings and pretend the abuse never happened so she can maintain her comfort. 1]
Understanding the Dynamic
  • The Enabler Role: Your therapist highlighted traits of covert narcissism and enabler behavior for a reason. For your entire life, your mother prioritized keeping your father appeased over protecting her children. []
  • The Broken Rule: When you protected your own children from your father's violence, you disrupted the fragile balance your mother maintained for decades. She views your boundary as a betrayal of him, rather than an act of love for them.
  • Conditional Love: Her willingness to maintain relationships with others while icing you out shows that her affection has always been conditional on compliance.
What You Can Do Now
  • Acknowledge the Reality: Recognize that her silence reflects who she is, not your worth as a daughter or a mother.
  • Grieve the Loss: Allow yourself to feel the sadness and devastation of losing the mother you deserved, while accepting the reality of the mother you actually have.
  • Protect Your Peace: Continue to keep your children safe from the toxic cycle you fought so hard to break a decade ago. []
If you'd like, we can discuss strategies for processing this grief or look at ways to strengthen your emotional boundaries to protect your peace moving forward.

I sincerely hope that the increasing habit on here of running other people's posts through AI will stop soon as it makes the whole point of a public forum completely bloody pointless

AcquadiP · 26/08/2026 20:17

EnglishRose26 · 25/08/2026 16:25

That did sting, but it is the truth yes. I guess I imagined she would eventually come to value a relationship with me and her gc. I had hoped she would. I have protected my dc from the fallout, and would not forgive myself if I allowed them to be harmed, but the cost feels very high sometimes.

" I guess I imagined she would eventually come to value a relationship with me and her gc."

This is a perfectly normal wish but I honesty don't think your mum has the capacity to be a loving, nurturing, supportive, loyal mum as you would have seen this in her a long, long time ago.

The shame you feel isn't yours to bear but it is typical in abused children, even as adults. An adult finds it difficult to rationalise your mum's cold behaviour, a child simply isn't mentally or emotionally equipped to deal with it so most often it becomes internalised as shame and guilt. I used to feel the shame too, and I still do to a small extent, but I believe my mother just didn't have the capacity to be a 'normal' mother.

With regard to other people, I agree with you that keeping quiet is the best option, but not because of misplaced feelings of shame. In the past I was disappointed and quite frustrated by some of the responses I received from people I trusted enough to be open with. One of the worst was: "but she's your mother." Now I handle it by saying "all my close family are on the other side" which is the truth. They assume I include my mother in this, which I don't, but it's easier than trying to explain the painful reality to someone who has no experience of it.

I'll leave you with one very powerful quote:

"A child should never feel as if they need to earn a mother's love.” — Sherrie Campbell

X

NCForOneNightOnly · 26/08/2026 23:03

KaleidoscopeSmile · 26/08/2026 14:20

I sincerely hope that the increasing habit on here of running other people's posts through AI will stop soon as it makes the whole point of a public forum completely bloody pointless

Edited

In your opinion..

Franjipanl8r · 26/08/2026 23:36

Maybe hold a little ceremony or visit a church and light a candle to grieve for the mother you should have had and that you deserved to have. I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt such a bad hand, please do open up to friends and tell them how awful she’s been and how hurt you are. There’s no shame, you’ve done nothing wrong.

pikkumyy77 · 26/08/2026 23:44

NCForOneNightOnly · 26/08/2026 23:03

In your opinion..

No its an unconscionable act. Just rude and counterproductive. OP took the time to open up here for help from other human beings. You had no right to submit her question to AI.

EnglishRose26 · Yesterday 07:56

I am sorry for pp going through this - the anguish can be quite something even for the battle hardy. As our parents are usually our last resort, or I think of parents to be that way for others.

I am going to try and start telling a few people factually that I don't see much of my family and it is complicated, rather than try and pretend we are a 'normal happy family' (which reinforces my feelings of shame) It is the shame of being 'that' family that prevents me from being open.

It feels quite taboo, a kind of hidden pain, so if I can I might try and address that. If a friend told me the same thing had happened to them, I would have nothing but empathy for them and would wish to support them as much as I can. So I don't know why that wouldn't apply to me?

OP posts:
BMW58 · Yesterday 10:08

There are countless others like you in the Stately Homes threads OP - I think they are in the Relationships board?

I'm sure you would get loads of useful information and insights from others there.

You are certainly not alone!

Flowers
SickandTiredofEverything · Yesterday 10:31

OP I’ll be honest I have no direct experience of this but wanted to come and say do NOT be ashamed. You have nothing to feel shame for. You protected your children. The truth is:

  • you father abused you throughout your childhood and your mother enabled and supported it
  • when you refused to let your children suffer the same fate your mother disowned you.
You are to be admired. I met an old school friend recently I had not seen since we were young as she moved away. As part of the catch up I asked after her family naturally. She matter of factly told me that in her late 20s (shortly after she had her own children actually) she went to the police due to SA by her father and he went to prison for it - he is now out and she has nothing to do with him. Her mother and her brother (who lives with and is supported by parents) would not break contact with her father so she will not see them either. Somewhat like your situation, she put her husband first. She actually claims her daughter is lying! My friend has her other brother who is also no contact with the rest of the family since this happened. The reason I mention this story is because my main responses were horror - yes - I knew and liked this man - but then incredibly proud of her and I think she is amazing. I would say don’t hide this - abusers gain by secrecy. I’d be open and honest as per the bullet points above to anyone who asks. Their shame, not yours. Be proud you stood up for your kids! Anyone hearing what happened, who has a shred of dignity, will agree.
BlueKangaroo2 · Yesterday 11:59

EnglishRose26 · 25/08/2026 16:52

It is like the living dead, they are still here walking around, living their lives in a different sphere and part of me feels the pain of knowing that. I panic regularly about what I would do if they did die, and how I would manage the funeral etc if I were to go or be told, because being cut off is very different from being the one choosing to walk away. Being cut off by your own parents lands you in a very helpless state of confusion initially and shock, because who the hell cuts off their kids without an exceptional reason? I think it must be rare.

I suspect you are all right, and they are both narcissistic in different ways, and I have just stopped serving a purpose. Choosing to step out of the drama, rather than remain in it, ofc I was supposed to be their carer in old age (hence the distance causing such a big problem for them) I actually wonder if my mother cared at all, or if I was entirely a 'means to an end' all along. Somehow I find it hard to be reduced to that.

And yes, I can't tolerate playing 'happy families' with someone that doesn't call me from one year to the next. It feels performative and pointless. It is just so my mother can say she has a lovely family and look at all the gifts, and the cards and flowers we send her. None of it is real or there is no real connection at all.
I just wondered if anyone else has experience of this. As lots of pp suggest low or no contact on here, but it always seems to be the child in the equation and very rarely the parents doing the no contact.

My DH has had a parent go NC. MIL cut us off around 11 years ago. She told us in a letter, (we live overseas) I think she thought DH would go begging for her to reconsider but he didn’t. There’s been one communication since, another letter, briefly saying she regretted cutting us off, followed by several pages about what a terrible person DH is!

He didn’t have a childhood even close to yours, but without going too deeply into it, neither of his parents should really have had children. There was no love in the house, no support, lots of put downs, MIL wanted control, she still has it with BIL who has been single all his life but she lost control of DH when he married, had kids and became successful in his career. She started the negative remarks with our kids, DH started to see the patterns from his childhood and we withdrew a bit, but she eventually went NC with us. He’s made peace with it, he has had people say they can’t imagine not seeing their mum but as he says, presumably their mum was loving and supportive 🤷🏻‍♀️

I hope you find the right support to help you process all this x

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