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To expect MoH to refund hen accommodation after we were refused access?

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Hennightmare · Yesterday 20:18

I attended a hen party at the weekend - Friday to Sunday, staying close to a seaside resort in a private accommodation. I paid my share in advance - nearly £300.

Upon arrival, we were greeted by the owner who refused entry on the basis that hen parties (and same sex groups/stags) are not allowed and this is stated in the booking terms and conditions and elsewhere on the website. Despite reasoning, the owner was not backing down, and said there’d been an incident with a same sex group two weekends ago which required costly repairs.

MoH said she was aware of other hens who had stayed and this is how she found the place on instagram. She was told no refund would be given as there wouldn’t be time to let it again for the weekend.

We managed to find budget hotel rooms in the area but this scuppered the plans which were in place for the house - games etc.

I have looked myself and it is prominent on the website about the rules around hen parties etc. It is clear there has been inconsistent approaches in the past though.

Should the MoH cover us for her mistake? I am out of pocket after the hotel booking.

YABU - suck it up, it happened
YANBU - her mistake, she should offer to cover it

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Viviennemary · Yesterday 22:59

Who is moh. Mother of the Hens? I wish folk wouldnt use those random acronyms

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:00

SlappyHap · Yesterday 22:58

I’d be more angry at the owner of the house for not refunding you, rather than the MoH. Where is your annoyance for the greedy owner?

You have got to wonder at the owner - if she had a bad experience with a hen do just a couple of weeks earlier then surely she would check, double check, triple check and then check again that new customers were quite clear about the no parties condition.

SlappyHap · Yesterday 23:00

Viviennemary · Yesterday 22:59

Who is moh. Mother of the Hens? I wish folk wouldnt use those random acronyms

Maid of honor

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:00

Viviennemary · Yesterday 22:59

Who is moh. Mother of the Hens? I wish folk wouldnt use those random acronyms

Maid of Honour. The acronym has been around for decades.

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 23:01

Hennightmare · Yesterday 22:54

I won’t know any more until tomorrow, aside from people sharing photos from the weekend, the group chat is quiet.

OP did the MoH pay on a credit or debit card ? If so can she put this in the hands of her bank/card provider to investigate ? They would have a better chance of finding out exactly when the policy changed and whether the website was updated before or after she booked the venue. It’s an awful lot of money to lose and if it transpires that the website was changed after she booked and the owner won’t refund voluntarily, the card provider or bank may do a chargeback. If not, maybe small claims court is the answer.

Viviennemary · Yesterday 23:02

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:00

Maid of Honour. The acronym has been around for decades.

Ok thanks. It is late!

Disgusted85 · Yesterday 23:04

Hennightmare · Yesterday 20:18

I attended a hen party at the weekend - Friday to Sunday, staying close to a seaside resort in a private accommodation. I paid my share in advance - nearly £300.

Upon arrival, we were greeted by the owner who refused entry on the basis that hen parties (and same sex groups/stags) are not allowed and this is stated in the booking terms and conditions and elsewhere on the website. Despite reasoning, the owner was not backing down, and said there’d been an incident with a same sex group two weekends ago which required costly repairs.

MoH said she was aware of other hens who had stayed and this is how she found the place on instagram. She was told no refund would be given as there wouldn’t be time to let it again for the weekend.

We managed to find budget hotel rooms in the area but this scuppered the plans which were in place for the house - games etc.

I have looked myself and it is prominent on the website about the rules around hen parties etc. It is clear there has been inconsistent approaches in the past though.

Should the MoH cover us for her mistake? I am out of pocket after the hotel booking.

YABU - suck it up, it happened
YANBU - her mistake, she should offer to cover it

If there was an Incident with a same sex group a couple days weeks ago, it must mean they had accepted their booking, other wise surely they would have been turned away?

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:04

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 23:01

OP did the MoH pay on a credit or debit card ? If so can she put this in the hands of her bank/card provider to investigate ? They would have a better chance of finding out exactly when the policy changed and whether the website was updated before or after she booked the venue. It’s an awful lot of money to lose and if it transpires that the website was changed after she booked and the owner won’t refund voluntarily, the card provider or bank may do a chargeback. If not, maybe small claims court is the answer.

Edited

Debit card (someone asked her at the weekend).

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Disgusted85 · Yesterday 23:04

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:00

You have got to wonder at the owner - if she had a bad experience with a hen do just a couple of weeks earlier then surely she would check, double check, triple check and then check again that new customers were quite clear about the no parties condition.

This.

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:05

Disgusted85 · Yesterday 23:04

If there was an Incident with a same sex group a couple days weeks ago, it must mean they had accepted their booking, other wise surely they would have been turned away?

Good point

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 23:05

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:04

Debit card (someone asked her at the weekend).

Then the first port of call is her bank to explain what’s happened and that it’s not clear whether the terms and conditions changed before or after she booked. The bank should investigate and if the owner is at fault there should be a chargeback.

The owner has admitted that there was a hen party a couple of weeks ago, which suggests that up to that point they were still taking bookings for these types of events. If, as you say, MoH booked long before that, then the question becomes, why their stay went ahead while yours was refused. If the T&Cs changed after you booked it was on the owner to bring that to her attention and offer a refund.

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 23:06

You have said I have looked myself and it is prominent on the website about the rules around hen parties etc. but also I did see the listing prior to booking, but was looking at the key details such as photo’s and whether bedding/towels are provided as opposed to trawling the T&C’s

So was it prominent on the website or was it hidden in the T&C’s?

Devonshiregal · Yesterday 23:06

Wilnis7 · Yesterday 20:28

hmm, i'd be looking at consumer rights and be trashing the venue all over reviews, does it clearly say it on Ts&Cs

I'd be livid at venue, thats a crap rule

It's a necessary rule because many people during these parties act like arseholes and behave dreadfully. The same people who will stay at a venue with their family and friends on a trip will be have very different when they are on a stag or hen do. Sad but true. And, as stated, the venue did say no stag or hens so why do they deserve to be slated?

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 23:07

Disgusted85 · Yesterday 23:04

If there was an Incident with a same sex group a couple days weeks ago, it must mean they had accepted their booking, other wise surely they would have been turned away?

Excellent point.

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:09

LizandDerekGoals · Yesterday 23:06

You have said I have looked myself and it is prominent on the website about the rules around hen parties etc. but also I did see the listing prior to booking, but was looking at the key details such as photo’s and whether bedding/towels are provided as opposed to trawling the T&C’s

So was it prominent on the website or was it hidden in the T&C’s?

And as previous posters have pointed out - was this added before or after the booking if the owner allowed a hen party just a few weeks before?

HalzTangz · Yesterday 23:10

TeaFizzy · Yesterday 22:06

How would ages tell you that?

Wll of the ages were 2, 6, 12, 34, 38 then I think anyone would safely assume that's not a hen do

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:11

leavesinthebreeze · Yesterday 23:09

And as previous posters have pointed out - was this added before or after the booking if the owner allowed a hen party just a few weeks before?

That I don’t know.

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SlappyHap · Yesterday 23:13

@Hennightmare when the MoH booked this, did she get a confirmation email with the T&C’s attached?

If I had lost £300 I would not be being so passive about this. I would be contacting the accommodation owner ASAP for a refund. I can’t believe none of you queried this when you were turned away!

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 23:14

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:11

That I don’t know.

Which is why your best bet is to put it into the hands of the card provider to investigate.

ValcoServesYOuRight · Yesterday 23:14

How did they know you were a hen party and not 5 same sex couples? What if half of you identified as male?

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:15

SlappyHap · Yesterday 23:13

@Hennightmare when the MoH booked this, did she get a confirmation email with the T&C’s attached?

If I had lost £300 I would not be being so passive about this. I would be contacting the accommodation owner ASAP for a refund. I can’t believe none of you queried this when you were turned away!

We did query - MoH was vague and very much in ‘let’s concentrate on having a good time’ mode.

As I’ve said before, I’m seeing my friend tomorrow (who is bride to be) and I will ask her about it as with MoH being her best friend, if anyone knows the details she will.

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givemesteel · Yesterday 23:15

How did the owner find out it was a hen do?

I'd rather cut my finger off then be a maid of honour in this day and age if people are expecting a professional party planner.

Please just accept it was an honest mistake and make the bride's weekend as nice as it can be

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:16

ThreadGuardDog · Yesterday 23:14

Which is why your best bet is to put it into the hands of the card provider to investigate.

Agreed, but I can’t make that decision, only MoH can. Depending what my friend says tomorrow, I’ll push for that route to be taken.

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Movingonup313 · Yesterday 23:16

Did they offer for some of the hens to stay? Not sure if that would have scuppered the trip even more. Wonder what constitutes a large group. Anyway providers refusing to book for hen/stag parties has been a thing for a long as I can remember. It should have been checked.

Hennightmare · Yesterday 23:17

Movingonup313 · Yesterday 23:16

Did they offer for some of the hens to stay? Not sure if that would have scuppered the trip even more. Wonder what constitutes a large group. Anyway providers refusing to book for hen/stag parties has been a thing for a long as I can remember. It should have been checked.

No they didn’t, that wasn’t an option and I doubt it would have been taken up anyway as we wanted to all be together.

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