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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:09

Whosthetabbynow · 19/08/2026 14:00

From my observations the parents that have their offspring work with/for them is because they’re the type of kids that can’t be let loose into the world.

Yeah I can agree with that!

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:09

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:08

All working in public facing roles taught me is what arseholes some people are.

Edited

And that’s a good lesson to learn, so you see, you did learn something.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 14:18

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:09

Yeah I can agree with that!

i’d wager a huge amount of trades people work with their parents in the family business. My electrician came around the other day with his 2 sons who work for him. Absolutely lovely. Are you saying trades people who work with their parents are useless?

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 14:19

Hankunamatata · 19/08/2026 12:59

I have no experience of oxford or Cambridge applications. But wont she need to do something substantial during her gap year to put on the application?

Whats her plan if she doesnt get oxford or Cambridge?

She will need to do something consistent with being dedicated to studying law eg working in a legal practice. She would apply through UCAS in the usual way, listing for other universities and courses she is interested in.

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:20

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:09

And that’s a good lesson to learn, so you see, you did learn something.

It’s a pretty rotten lesson. I could have done without learning it. You’re just being contrary now.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:22

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 14:18

i’d wager a huge amount of trades people work with their parents in the family business. My electrician came around the other day with his 2 sons who work for him. Absolutely lovely. Are you saying trades people who work with their parents are useless?

Edited

Well given the number of tradespeople we all know who do shoddy work, ghost clients, miss deadlines etc., maybe focusing more on hiring the right person for a job instead of the one who happens to share your DNA wouldn’t be a bad thing?

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:23

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:20

It’s a pretty rotten lesson. I could have done without learning it. You’re just being contrary now.

You don’t think an aspiring lawyer needs to understand how challenging, difficult and abusive people can be? Doesn’t need to understand the interplay of power dynamics? Of how people treat those they see as lesser than them? These are important lessons.

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:26

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:23

You don’t think an aspiring lawyer needs to understand how challenging, difficult and abusive people can be? Doesn’t need to understand the interplay of power dynamics? Of how people treat those they see as lesser than them? These are important lessons.

No, I don’t think a City contract lawyer or any other corporate role needs to know that. How would it help them?

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:27

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:08

How have I contradicted myself?

And my final point is not ridiculous, it’s fact. Hence why prep schools, tutors, mentors etc. exist. An entire industry literally geared towards getting children into Oxbridge and its equivalents exists.

You've contradicted yourself because you keep emphasising that you know what educational and societal advantage looks like, how families can attempt to 'train' their kids for success by using tutors, prep schools, and so on. You said you know this because you work in Higher Education.

The Oxbridge admissions tutors also know this, so your argument doesn't quite work, does it?

The point is - of course candidates apply to Oxbridge from different positions. But the admissions teams are aware of the different positions. Stop trying to suggest that if you come from a wealthy, ambitious family that getting into Oxbridge will be a doddle. It's simply isn't the case.

Overwhelmedandtired · 19/08/2026 14:28

I think as she wants to study law, and you have the opportunity and capability to offer her relevant work experience, it would be harsh not to. However, does it have to be paid? If she's spoilt, could it be a part time internship, and she needs to find paid work elsewhere too?

Or, alternatively, as others have suggested it doesn't sound like it needs to be a job at tesco, but more a role which involves working with the general public, understanding people better, and stepping outside her privileged world. So she could volunteer as mentioned, which will also beef up her Cambridge application. Could she volunteer somewhere like womens aid, or a domestic abuse charity, which might also help her understand challenges faced by some of those needing legal support.

She could try a volunteering trip overseas? Does she have any particular areas of interest that she could help out in? Like a sport, language etc.

Does she have much of a financial education? Does she understand the value of money? If you do pay her, another option could be giving her 'bills' to pay. So she gets a salary for her gap year but needs to pay rent, phone bill, car insurance etc. Not get given what she wants, and help understand the value of money. Even if you don't need the money and put it aside for her in the future.

It sounds like you almost loved and cared for your DC too much, by giving them everything you could, and just missing the part that they might come to expect rather than feel grateful for it. Very much sounds like your heart is in the right place, I hope she starts to understand the lessons you want her to learn.

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:30

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:27

You've contradicted yourself because you keep emphasising that you know what educational and societal advantage looks like, how families can attempt to 'train' their kids for success by using tutors, prep schools, and so on. You said you know this because you work in Higher Education.

The Oxbridge admissions tutors also know this, so your argument doesn't quite work, does it?

The point is - of course candidates apply to Oxbridge from different positions. But the admissions teams are aware of the different positions. Stop trying to suggest that if you come from a wealthy, ambitious family that getting into Oxbridge will be a doddle. It's simply isn't the case.

But that’s not me contradicting myself, is it? Fair enough if you think I’m wrong, but I’m not contradicting myself.

Thosecandlesdontmatch · 19/08/2026 14:31

Is this one of those stealth boast situations…

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:33

BIossomtoes · 19/08/2026 14:26

No, I don’t think a City contract lawyer or any other corporate role needs to know that. How would it help them?

All I can say is: wow. A City contract lawyer or a person working any other corporate role does not need to understand how to deal with challenging people, power dynamics, and abusive personalities. Okay then.

Oioiqueen · 19/08/2026 14:34

Honestly I think the main issue is your family pandering to her. My stance would be you want a gap year fine, you'll be paid minimum wage by me and there won't be any additional nice items from elsewhere. You want to take a gap year as an adult then you are treated as one. Of course we know that she has DH and grandparents wrapped round her little finger.

Isitevensummer · 19/08/2026 14:35

I think you are right, but if you and DH are not on the same page, it's impossible to enforce.

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:38

Not the point of the thread, but - 'it's really easy to get into Oxbridge if your parents are rich, and I know this because I work in HE' doesn't make a shred of sense when the Oxbridge admissions tutors will have the exact same awareness of educational advantage and privilege as you do!

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:39

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:30

But that’s not me contradicting myself, is it? Fair enough if you think I’m wrong, but I’m not contradicting myself.

(sorry, forgot to quote you there!)

topcat2014 · 19/08/2026 14:39

I think both your children have amazing opportunities and it is great you have both been able to provide these. Don't feel guilty that others may not have these.

Your daughter will gain more from continuing to work in your medium sized business. It's not like you are a sole trader.

Kids grow up anyway. I worked in a shop. DD works in a kitchen, albeit in a glamorous cotswold setting.

I get why you feel as you do, but id leave things as they are.

TheOccupier · 19/08/2026 14:39

If you block DD coming back to work in your firm, will your DH give her a job in his? So this is all hypothetical?

If DD is motivated by self-interest, perhaps you can leverage that. Offer to pay for a short secretarial course and then she can go and apply for legal secretary temp work. Will be relevant to her future applications and gets her out into the real working world. I am not sure that privileged DCs should be taking retail/service type jobs from those who really need them and don't have other options... seems a bit Marie Antoinette. You could also suggest that she works at the CAB or your local free legal clinic - yes it's probably unpaid but it would again be relevant experience for law. Perhaps you could offer to pay her what she'd be paid at your firm if that makes the difference, subject to good feedback from supervisors?

Constantinoodle · 19/08/2026 14:41

Loveseat · 19/08/2026 14:38

Not the point of the thread, but - 'it's really easy to get into Oxbridge if your parents are rich, and I know this because I work in HE' doesn't make a shred of sense when the Oxbridge admissions tutors will have the exact same awareness of educational advantage and privilege as you do!

But that’s not me contradicting myself, is it? That’s me making a point that you don’t agree with, which is fair enough.

IdaGlossop · 19/08/2026 14:41

TheOccupier · 19/08/2026 14:39

If you block DD coming back to work in your firm, will your DH give her a job in his? So this is all hypothetical?

If DD is motivated by self-interest, perhaps you can leverage that. Offer to pay for a short secretarial course and then she can go and apply for legal secretary temp work. Will be relevant to her future applications and gets her out into the real working world. I am not sure that privileged DCs should be taking retail/service type jobs from those who really need them and don't have other options... seems a bit Marie Antoinette. You could also suggest that she works at the CAB or your local free legal clinic - yes it's probably unpaid but it would again be relevant experience for law. Perhaps you could offer to pay her what she'd be paid at your firm if that makes the difference, subject to good feedback from supervisors?

Some excellent ideas here. Let's hope OP returns to read them.

Isitevensummer · 19/08/2026 14:45

TheOccupier · 19/08/2026 14:39

If you block DD coming back to work in your firm, will your DH give her a job in his? So this is all hypothetical?

If DD is motivated by self-interest, perhaps you can leverage that. Offer to pay for a short secretarial course and then she can go and apply for legal secretary temp work. Will be relevant to her future applications and gets her out into the real working world. I am not sure that privileged DCs should be taking retail/service type jobs from those who really need them and don't have other options... seems a bit Marie Antoinette. You could also suggest that she works at the CAB or your local free legal clinic - yes it's probably unpaid but it would again be relevant experience for law. Perhaps you could offer to pay her what she'd be paid at your firm if that makes the difference, subject to good feedback from supervisors?

you make some great points. But l think its people like this who can really struggle with lifes ups and downs. Without facing some adversity - shit jobs, horrible bosses, not enough money - people don't develop resilience and the knowledge that they can cope. Over protective parents rob their children of this learning and seriously disadvantage them going forward.

Subbdue · 19/08/2026 14:47

Do you know any lawyers who do pro bono work? Some do sessions at citizens advice and with charities. She could shadow them. She would be getting the legal experience she wants and needs, but the bonus would be seeing ‘real life’.

Cambridge won’t be very interested in supermarket work. They would be more impressed by some extra interest in the legal arena. She could perhaps consider a writing competition or try to prepare articles for a legal journal. That would put her in a better position.

There are plenty of kids with four stars trying to get into Oxbridge. I hope she is managing her expectations as there is absolutely no guarantee she will get in.

SonK · 19/08/2026 14:53

I agree with a previous poster, you are being a little weird and I wish I had this 'problem' you think you have.

I have worked lots of retail and customer facing jobs when I was younger, but don't see anything wrong with your daughter wanting to work for you and firm.

If I were in your position, I would just support her whatever she decides to do

Xanhi · 19/08/2026 14:57

I think you are overthinking it too much. She has just got a fantastic set of results. She is still young and it sounds like she hasn't quite got the confidence to branch out into unfamiliar territory yet. Your post is incredibly privileged and out of touch so it is hardly surprising that she might also be a bit like that. Doing a few different jobs isn't going to change that.

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