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I thought we agreed BBQs were a bad idea.

98 replies

Magenta82 · Yesterday 17:36

DD4 is going through a bit of a deep sleeping wetting the bed phase, we were busy today so I put 2 sets of her sheets on a long eco wash and stuck them on the line when we got back.

Half an hour later the whole garden is white, crazy amounts of smoke from next door and the worst smell of ligher fluid I've ever encountered.

I'm not sure how I'm going to get the waterproof sheets dry and I'm worried the whole street is about to go up in flames!

OP posts:
Oscillating · Yesterday 18:11

DianeSpiced · Yesterday 18:09

Pretty sure they can still cause a fire. The fire doesn't know whether the BBQ is going to be thrown away after use, does it?

It's less likely to be the cause of the fire, because people often use disposable straight on grass, leave it behind still hit, dispose of in bins still hot, aren't near water etc

BirdLandedonmyHead · Yesterday 18:11

DianeSpiced · Yesterday 18:09

Pretty sure they can still cause a fire. The fire doesn't know whether the BBQ is going to be thrown away after use, does it?

Disposable bbqs are often put directly on the ground, then not put out properly befire disposal

Proper bbqs are often raised

Raptors · Yesterday 18:12

I don't see the OP saying they are banned. I just see her sensibly saying a BBQ in this weather is a bad idea. Can't see why that's such an unreasonable statement.

Sloelydoesit · Yesterday 18:12

If you're missing outdoor eating I highly recommend getting a raclette grill! Lots of fun and a sociable meal

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 18:15

Why is your garden white?

Jaimelefromage · Yesterday 18:16

DianeSpiced · Yesterday 18:09

Pretty sure they can still cause a fire. The fire doesn't know whether the BBQ is going to be thrown away after use, does it?

It’s not actually to do with the type of bbq though, it’s the way in which they’re used. Disposable bbqs are often used directly on grass, and are either left behind or thrown away while still burning/smouldering.
Whereas normal bbqs are raised, tend to be used on patios and are more likely to be properly extinguished.
Ours is a gas BBQ, on a huge patio. The chances of a spark igniting anything around us is as close to 0
as you can get.
Irrelevant anyway, we can’t use it as it’s raining.

HoppityBun · Yesterday 18:17

My nexus door neighbours but one do this! White billowing smoke and the stink of whatever the fuel is. We have narrow gardens so it goes everywhere. They do it all year round and to be fair, it only lasts a couple of hours. I was planning to sit and read in the garden this afternoon but couldn’t.

i have to admit, it’s definitely not a disposable bbq and it’s under control but I wish they wouldn’t do it so often

Magenta82 · Yesterday 18:18

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 18:15

Why is your garden white?

From the smoke, they clearly used a lot of lighter fluid and other stuff to get it started, there was thick smoke for quite a long time, at least half an hour.

OP posts:
Additup · Yesterday 18:21

Oscillating · Yesterday 18:09

Then "BARBECUES ARE BANNED" are the same people who were squawking that you were only allowed out for 30 minutes during lockdown....

They just make up rules and shout

That's nonsense. I ignored most covid advice re: one way walking systems, useless masks, only going out once a day because it was all performative rubbish, didn't report neighbours with visitors etc etc However, it's obvious that lighting a bbq in a drought is a really stupid idea - if you're in an area where it hasn't rained for almost 60 days like we are.

After seeing what happened in Stourbridge this week I'd definitely be reporting anyone lighting one simply because I dont want to risk our house burning down.

ginasevern · Yesterday 18:23

People have a self declared right to be pricks. Surely you know that OP. I remember when seat belts become law. You'd think the government had asked people to poke their stupid fucking eyes out. And yes, it does correlate to IQ.

amylou8 · Yesterday 18:24

The only thing that is banned is the sale of disposable BBQS.
Otherwise as you were.
I'd suggest to those of you preaching about it, find your old covid masks you loved so much. Then you won't have to smell anyone's BBQ and we can eat our burgers in peace.

Magenta82 · Yesterday 18:26

I didn't say they were banned, I said they were a bad idea.

This is about fire risk, which is a real pressing issue, not covid.

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Changepassword · Yesterday 18:27

Did I miss something? Are we not allowed BBQs?

Raptors · Yesterday 18:27

The reading comprehension on here at times is infuriating.

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · Yesterday 18:30

Raptors · Yesterday 18:05

I wonder if we're neighbours. The people at the back of us have lit a BBQ and me and DH have been idly pondering for the past 30 minutes if it sets anything on fire would they be liable to pay.

Bloody ridiculous behaviour and completely unnecessary given the alert and how dry everything is.

How would they pay though ? You would have to try and claim on your insurance ,remember insurance doesn't like to pay out. And then your premiums would go up !

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · Yesterday 18:31

Magenta82 · Yesterday 18:18

From the smoke, they clearly used a lot of lighter fluid and other stuff to get it started, there was thick smoke for quite a long time, at least half an hour.

And the fire risk aside there is no air movement where I am and thei air quality is poor

So filling the air with smoke anyway is so selfish

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 18:32

Additup · Yesterday 18:21

That's nonsense. I ignored most covid advice re: one way walking systems, useless masks, only going out once a day because it was all performative rubbish, didn't report neighbours with visitors etc etc However, it's obvious that lighting a bbq in a drought is a really stupid idea - if you're in an area where it hasn't rained for almost 60 days like we are.

After seeing what happened in Stourbridge this week I'd definitely be reporting anyone lighting one simply because I dont want to risk our house burning down.

Disposable BBQs are the hazard, not proper ones.

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 18:33

Magenta82 · Yesterday 18:18

From the smoke, they clearly used a lot of lighter fluid and other stuff to get it started, there was thick smoke for quite a long time, at least half an hour.

Oh I thought you meant it had turned white 😂😂

Raptors · Yesterday 18:35

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · Yesterday 18:30

How would they pay though ? You would have to try and claim on your insurance ,remember insurance doesn't like to pay out. And then your premiums would go up !

Not sure legally as I said just idly wondering. My argument was if the house caught alight I don't think you'd have much choice but to contact your insurance.

I think there would be a case for reckless behaviour even if it wasn't a disposable BBQ given how dry everything is at present due to the lack of rain. They could hardly argue they hadn't noticed especially with the alert we all received.

isitoverno · Yesterday 18:36

YoniWheretheSunDontShine · Yesterday 18:02

People a few doors down had one all I could do was try and keep an eye and fill up some water cans and buckets to douse my property and have my hose at the ready. It's so stressful .

This is satire, right?

The issue isn’t a domestic BBQ in your back garden. The issue is that people are going around with portable BBQs etc and having them in the middle of a field! Surely you didn’t sit there all afternoon with your hose?

Additup · Yesterday 18:38

DdraigGoch · Yesterday 18:32

Disposable BBQs are the hazard, not proper ones.

I can see a disposable bbq is more risk as they're closer to the ground but a non disposable is too much of a risk where I am imo. People having a few drinks in charge of a small fire when its not rained for weeks near my home isn't something I would like at all.

isitoverno · Yesterday 18:42

Additup · Yesterday 18:38

I can see a disposable bbq is more risk as they're closer to the ground but a non disposable is too much of a risk where I am imo. People having a few drinks in charge of a small fire when its not rained for weeks near my home isn't something I would like at all.

To be fair I’d be concerned if my neighbours were BBQing like that because it shouldn’t be on fire!

tomatoplants · Yesterday 18:45

Can you dry them inside?

as for the bbqs - just stupid in this current weather. Prob all the people who couldn’t cope with the alert. And fire at the moment just isn’t worth risking. Only takes one spark.

and yes I do think anyone deliberately setting a fire at the moment should be liable if anyone’s property burns.

Surely people can just not bbq for a bit?!

Another76543 · Yesterday 18:45

Why are so many people saying that only disposable BBQs are banned and that it’s ok to use other things? The alert clearly says not to do anything that could cause a fire. It says “including” disposable BBQs. It doesn’t say other BBQs are fine and to go ahead.

The alert said

“Residents, landowners and visitors should not undertake any activity that could start a fire, including disposable barbecues, firepits, garden incinerators or fireworks.”

Do we really need the government to tell us what should be common sense?

If there’s loads of smoke, it suggests a charcoal bbq (from reading, gas BBQs aren’t so much of a risk, assuming sensible precautions are taken).

As a society, why are so many incapable of using common sense?

isitoverno · Yesterday 18:48

Another76543 · Yesterday 18:45

Why are so many people saying that only disposable BBQs are banned and that it’s ok to use other things? The alert clearly says not to do anything that could cause a fire. It says “including” disposable BBQs. It doesn’t say other BBQs are fine and to go ahead.

The alert said

“Residents, landowners and visitors should not undertake any activity that could start a fire, including disposable barbecues, firepits, garden incinerators or fireworks.”

Do we really need the government to tell us what should be common sense?

If there’s loads of smoke, it suggests a charcoal bbq (from reading, gas BBQs aren’t so much of a risk, assuming sensible precautions are taken).

As a society, why are so many incapable of using common sense?

Okay but that’s a very wide reaching statement.

Can I cook with gas inside my home? It could technically start a fire.

It’s about using common sense. A BBQ in your garden at home is fine.

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