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AIBU to ask a charity shop to refund a fake designer jumper?

167 replies

Thelongestdayever · Yesterday 14:41

My teenage DD has recently got into thrift shopping. She bought a designer sports brand jumper yesterday in a charity shop, new with the tags on, she paid £40 so not cheap but still a saving on rrp.

When she was showing me we realised it’s not real. I suspected as the quality is off and on closer inspection it’s a definite fake.

DD took it back to the shop today and they refused her a refund saying that they only refund faulty items. AIBU to go back with her and ask that they do refund? The RRP would be about £60 so not unreasonable of her to presume it was real but a bit cheaper, IMO (eg it’s not like it was a Chanel bag for a tenner which I would clearly expect to be fake). £40 is a lot of money to DD and it’s not even really a good fake in hindsight.

OP posts:
RanyaJerodung · Yesterday 15:34

PeachMelbaYoghurt · Yesterday 15:31

Because she's massively overpaid for it.

Right. What brand did she think it was?

Ethelspagetti · Yesterday 15:35

Whinge · Yesterday 14:54

OP's daughter wants a refund as they have been sold a fake item, which a shop isn't legally allowed to do.

As for the volunteers having no idea about the item. That's clearly not the case. They obviously believed the jumper to be a designer item, or why else would they be selling it for £40.

Agreed. It is illegal to sell fake designer goods.

RubyPowderPuff · Yesterday 15:36

bebanjo · Yesterday 14:49

I think I may have misunderstood, a jumper was donated to a charity shop, so second hand. Someone brought it from a charity shop, staffed by volunteers who may know nothing about it. And you want a refund?

They are not allowed counterfeit/ fake items. Charity shops are business and do not operate outside the law.
I used to work for a charity, selling donated items of higher value on eBay. We had many an item verified... there are whole websites dedicated to spotting fake goods.

RubyPowderPuff · Yesterday 15:36

Fakes need to be destroyed.

Error404FucksNotFound · Yesterday 15:37

MrsShawnHatosy · Yesterday 15:24

I really think it’s caveat emptor in these circumstances.

The law is very clear that it is not.

PuppyMonkey · Yesterday 15:39

Makes you wonder if the other new with tag items on the rail are also fake.

topcat2014 · Yesterday 15:41

So it's "fake" but has also got shop "tags" on it?

Does market stall knock off tat usually come with tags?

HoppityBun · Yesterday 15:41

RanyaJerodung · Yesterday 15:29

I don't understand. If your daughter likes the jumper and it's a style she wanted, why take it back? Why not wear it?.

  1. Because it was sold to her with a false description and
  2. The price reflected the fake description

It’s no better than fake designer bags and perfume sold in a market or online. It’s dishonest trading.

Legolaslady · Yesterday 15:41

Which charity shop? I thought there was a 14 day return policy in every shop for whatever reason

RanyaJerodung · Yesterday 15:43

HoppityBun · Yesterday 15:41

  1. Because it was sold to her with a false description and
  2. The price reflected the fake description

It’s no better than fake designer bags and perfume sold in a market or online. It’s dishonest trading.

Right. I get it.

CreamSecond · Yesterday 15:45

Brand new with tags means shoplifted, doesn't it? Or haven't I understood

Pretty unlikely. Why would people shoplift and then give it away to a charity shop?
Many people buy stuff and never wear it. I've got a couple of tops still with labels on in my wardrobe that I regretted buying for one reason or another.
My dd has given away stuff with tags still on. She's worse than me.

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Yesterday 15:47

bebanjo · Yesterday 14:49

I think I may have misunderstood, a jumper was donated to a charity shop, so second hand. Someone brought it from a charity shop, staffed by volunteers who may know nothing about it. And you want a refund?

BOUGHT

CreamSecond · Yesterday 15:47

They have loads of items BNWT. I presume sometimes people just don’t get round to wearing things?

Yeah. That's me that is.

Monty36 · Yesterday 15:47

AmyDudley · Yesterday 15:28

Charity shops are not 'full of volunteers' the managers will be paid, it is their job to oversee this sort of thing, they research the value of items and that informs the pricing.

In this case they obviously made a mistake, not a malicious one, but one that should be rectified nevertheless.

Thank you for explaining.

YourTidyGreyRobin · Yesterday 15:49

DoraSpenlow · Yesterday 14:47

Did she like the design of the jumper? Did she think the jumper, as presented was worth £40? She could see the jumper, was happy to pay the marked price, so no, I don't see that she should get a refund. Useful lesson. Buy stuff because you like it, not for the label on it.

What rot. It was priced higher because it was 'designer' and now it turns out it isnt so she should def. get her money back.

OnlyUsername · Yesterday 15:52

Legolaslady · Yesterday 15:41

Which charity shop? I thought there was a 14 day return policy in every shop for whatever reason

Did you? Why?

Online is 14 days as you don't inspect the item until it arrives.

Holidaymodeon · Yesterday 15:53

topcat2014 · Yesterday 15:20

Brand new with tags means shoplifted, doesn't it? Or haven't I understood.

Charity shop should not have taken it in

There’s myriad reasons why the item still has tags on. Charity shops sell bnwt all the time!

£40 is a lot for a charity shop, they definitely sold it as the brand it’s duping

Thelongestdayever · Yesterday 15:55

YourTidyGreyRobin · Yesterday 15:49

What rot. It was priced higher because it was 'designer' and now it turns out it isnt so she should def. get her money back.

It was a crew neck sweatshirt with the brand logo on, so of course she bought it for that reason. Nothing really to do with the ‘design’.

OP posts:
bellventrico · Yesterday 15:57

DoraSpenlow · Yesterday 14:55

She had the item in her hands. She was prepared to pay the amount asked. It's not as if she had sent for it and then wasn't happy with the quality when it arrived.

FFS she's a teenager - go back with her OP- speak to the manager and if no success advise that you'll escalate to head office and or Trading Standards

Strawberrydelight78 · Yesterday 15:59

topcat2014 · Yesterday 15:20

Brand new with tags means shoplifted, doesn't it? Or haven't I understood.

Charity shop should not have taken it in

Not always OP says it’s in an affluent area. Most likely it’s been bought for someone as a gift they asked for. But when they realised it was fake they didn’t want it. I have family who do this usually ends up in a charity shop or broken in the bin.

turnthefanonpls · Yesterday 16:01

Yes, she most definitely should get a refund so go with her. If they are selling it for £40 then they are selling it as if it is a genuine designer product - Otherwise it would’ve just been a fiver or however much charity shops sell normal jumpers for.

AlwaysExtraHot · Yesterday 16:09

Thelongestdayever · Yesterday 15:02

They do know about brands and they believed it to be real, as otherwise why did they price it at £40? My MIL volunteers in a charity shop and they are trained to research items before they price them. It was on a rail of other BNWT items from other designer brands.

I second this. I've been in charity shops and seen staff online looking up the prices of things new to help them price their stock.
Pity the label doesn't say 'Calvin Klein' or whatever designer they thought it was; if it did, you'd have a clear case for a refund.
But in any case, as people have said, it is illegal to sell fake designer goods, so you need to insist. If the shop refuses, ask for their central address/contact details for the big boss.

madaboutpurple · Yesterday 16:11

Some people will wear things just for one event and not take the tags off as they want to donate or sell on line. I buy a fair amount from charity shops and only buy because I like the item. When I use Vinted or eBay If I like what is being sold I am not concerned with it having the labels still attached. I have a small collection from designers I like and haven't had any trouble from either company. I think I am lucky in that I have not had anything go wrong though I tend to have the attitude things will go well for me. I hope your DD gets her situation handled fairly.

topcat2014 · Yesterday 16:12

OnlyUsername · Yesterday 15:52

Did you? Why?

Online is 14 days as you don't inspect the item until it arrives.

Edited

No general right to return stuff because you don't want it, if you bought in person.

(notwithstanding the fake issue..)

TheSquareMile · Yesterday 16:13

Thelongestdayever · Yesterday 15:55

It was a crew neck sweatshirt with the brand logo on, so of course she bought it for that reason. Nothing really to do with the ‘design’.

@Thelongestdayever

Which brand is the top appearing to be by, OP?