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AIBU to think the wildfire alert about barbecues was unnecessary?

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HollyhockDayssss · 14/08/2026 19:55

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AIBU to think the alert was unnecessary? I get wildfires are an issue but informing the public not to use bbqs isnt a life and death situation.

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Etiennethemad · 16/08/2026 13:16

AplineDaisies · 14/08/2026 19:57

The government do not do these for no reason at all.

The government does lots of things for, apparently, no reason at all. At least for no logical reason.

PickAChew · 16/08/2026 13:28

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 04:05

Can you explain how sending out the alert helped those 16 families?

If you can't see that it could prevent another 16 families from ending up in the same situation then you're being wilfully obtuse.

salskibe · 16/08/2026 15:09

Favouritefruits · 14/08/2026 20:15

Message was great, great idea to remind people but it was just two months to late’

The dry conditions are a long way from over. People may be lulled into sense of false security when it gets cooler.

jdb9803 · 16/08/2026 17:23

Mespher · 14/08/2026 20:09

I also think this, I thought it was meant to be used if the danger was near, if they send out too many of these information messages people will switch it off

After receiving the same message FOUR times I switched the alerts off on my phone - was at a gig from 8-10.15 and we didn;t go more than 5 minutes without a phone alerting.
I agree the situation with wildfires is horrendous but think there were other ways to commuicate it

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:12

PickAChew · 16/08/2026 13:28

If you can't see that it could prevent another 16 families from ending up in the same situation then you're being wilfully obtuse.

So you don’t have an answer, then? Thought not.
It was a useless excercise in virtue signalling by a government that hasn’t a clue. You might be happy to have the government interfere in every aspect of your life but others are not.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:20

Itsasecretnow · 15/08/2026 10:40

Well, most of that is not really comparable (ie the eclipse and sun screen, I do have replies but I think they’re just not relevant, iykwim), however, I shall reply to your imminent danger comment (although I know I’m possibly wasting my breath and abusing my poor arthritic thumbs). Can you genuinely not understand that these fires can and are imminent? Like one could start literally this minute near where you are.

Think of the places where the wildfires started. Think of one mistake or stupid or careless act and POOOOOFFF! Up it all goes. Just like that. Anywhere and at any time. So in that sense then yes, I do think the alert was necessary. The problem is people are still doing things that are dangerous, so if the only way to make everybody aware has unfortunately meant it has been delivered as an alert.

People living in areas such as Stoke, Stourbridge and the New Forest (Devon and Hampshire), for example, may well have been saying the same thing had that alert gone out last week. Most of England and wales is in an official drought, as you know, and is literally a tinderbox where the slightest spark can cause absolute destruction very, very quickly. So in that - admittedly broader - sense I do think the alert was necessary. If people already heeded the warnings not to use disposable bbqs, discard cigarettes, leave any glass etc then the alert wouldn’t have been needed. How are we supposed to get the message across in a way that gets people’s attentions if it hasn’t happened so far? I am honestly not being combative, but it does frustrate me. God knows what the longterm damage done to the countryside, and all those differing wildlife and fauna will be. But it won’t be good. Especially areas that are really important to the protection of certain species. The NF, for eg, (I don’t know the other areas well, but assume many are similar) has many such areas of scientific interest and programmes of releasing once almost extinct wildlife/fauna etc

Personally I think disposable bbqs should have been banned years ago and the govt have failed, this will be the last heatwave for the year so most of the bbq season will be at an end in a couple of weeks anyway. But there’s no significant rain forecast down here any time soon. A few light showers or drizzle mext week, mid-weekish, but it’s not going to be enough. Especially where I live (not too far from one of the areas, that I love, which may be why I feel so passionately about it), it’s going to take a lot of rain before it starts soaking into the ground and until then we’re sitting on a time bomb which can be set off by an idiot having a bbq in a completely dry forest at any time.

A few more fires in areas that are already burning may be all it takes to start seeing masses of joined up fires spreading across huge swathes of the midlands or south coast or wales. We are basically a small island, with an awful lot crammed in, we live close to our neighbours, countryside just up the road from many of our towns and cities and these fires are jumping roads, the whole country is like kindling right now.

oh I’m sorry about how long that is! But I hope you can accept this reply as genuine concern, and nothing more.

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The alerts should be used to tell people to DO something in an emergency. They were not designed as yet another nannying tool. Yes wildfires are dangerous. If there was one half a mile from my house a warning might have been appropriate. As it was thousands of people were alerted unnecessarily. The government should have been more careful how it uses the tools because now they have been used inappropriately thousands of people won’t listen next time.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:24

Perplexed20 · 16/08/2026 12:16

In a age pre mobile phones what do you think air raid warnings were? Or govt information posters and leaflets, or the information films in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

If I remember rightly air raid warnings only went off when there was an air raid, or at least where one was expected, not all over the country.

MrsOni · 16/08/2026 18:32

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:12

So you don’t have an answer, then? Thought not.
It was a useless excercise in virtue signalling by a government that hasn’t a clue. You might be happy to have the government interfere in every aspect of your life but others are not.

Could the hyperbole be more off the scale?

Get a fucking grip.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:34

Portmore · 16/08/2026 12:52

The issue is the capacity of the fire service to respond.

They have exceeded capacity, there are several states of emergency across the country. Resources have been drawn from other areas leaving those with virtually no capacity to respond to say someone trapped in a vehicle following a crash.

Any more major fires or pressures are going to mean that the fire service will be unable to respond.

If you or your child were then in a road collision & trapped you would face a lengthy delay before a fire crew could reach you or possibly no response at all. The likelihood is that you or your child could die or sustain further injuries. Ask yourself if you would have wanted the government to have done everything possible to prevent that or whether you would be happy to lose your child in order to save the inconvenience of an alert

There is no joke. It is as serious as the fire chiefs are saying & why the alert was requested

What you have said is irrelevant. You don’t say how the alert actually helped the situation. If you are talking about the fire service being overwhelmed then the alert actually exacerbated the problem as lots of people decide to ring 999 (as they were told to do) to report their neighbours. It has also undermined the integrity of a system that was designed to be used only in national emergencies such as nuclear war or invasion.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:37

Portmore · 16/08/2026 12:45

I will explain it to you.

It is an emergency situation & exactly what the system was designed for

The fire service is facing unprecedented pressures & are exceeding their capacity to provide a safe service to the public.

The risk to life isn't just coming from the wildfires themselves it's coming from the fact that there is no capacity left for other emergencies.

Take for example the New Forest fires. There are crews from Manchester, yorkshire & London present at this fire. This leaves those areas with a reduced capacity. There are states of emergency in several parts of the country which means in some areas there are no fire crews or vehicles available to respond.

Any more major fires on top of what we already have will mean things like if you or your family were in a car crash & were trapped a crew would be severely delayed in reaching you - travelling 100 miles to reach you could make the difference between you & your child surviving or not.

My brother maintains vehicles for the fire service. He normally has about 20 vehicles on site for repairs & maintenance. He currently has zero. If a vehicle is damaged or has a fault there is zero to replace that with.

The warning was not about a wildfire about to kill you, it came from the fire service chiefs who need you to take those precautions in order to protect everyone else.

Yes the tin hat brigade will hate it just like they did with the COVID jab & masks.

Ask yourself how it would feel knowing your child was trapped & that there was no fire crew to respond & the nearest was 100 miles away.

You haven’t explained what I was supposed to DO when I heard the alert.

isitoverno · 16/08/2026 18:38

On the whole YABU, it’s so dry at the moment. However it has now given a load of people ammo to be the bbq police!

Portmore · 16/08/2026 18:40

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:34

What you have said is irrelevant. You don’t say how the alert actually helped the situation. If you are talking about the fire service being overwhelmed then the alert actually exacerbated the problem as lots of people decide to ring 999 (as they were told to do) to report their neighbours. It has also undermined the integrity of a system that was designed to be used only in national emergencies such as nuclear war or invasion.

Firstly that was never the intention of the alerts. I'm not sure where you got that from.

To answer your main question it helps by reducing the chances of further major incidents. The overwhelming majority of wildfires are preventable.

There have been no further major incidents declared over the weekend - which is when wildfires peak.

So far it has done what it was meant to do.

Summersorcherisjustsummer · 16/08/2026 18:40

It was very scary , it's causes the police and fire to be inundated with BBQ reports . However it's literally alerted most of us to the threat hasn't it.
It has has helped to heigten awareness and get us all talking.

Made ya more vigilant

Portmore · 16/08/2026 18:45

Summersorcherisjustsummer · 16/08/2026 18:40

It was very scary , it's causes the police and fire to be inundated with BBQ reports . However it's literally alerted most of us to the threat hasn't it.
It has has helped to heigten awareness and get us all talking.

Made ya more vigilant

Yes and it has proved to be effective. There have been no new major fires over the weekend which is when they are most likely to happen. That allows the fire service to preserve resources & concentrate on the current major incidents.

It looks like the vast majority of people received the alert & took it seriously. There will always be people who know better & will do what they want.

Portmore · 16/08/2026 18:50

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:37

You haven’t explained what I was supposed to DO when I heard the alert.

You need to avoid doing anything that risks a fire. So do not use disposable BBQs, have bonfires, use naked flames outdoors etc.

It was also making you aware of how serious the situation is.

isitoverno · 16/08/2026 18:51

Portmore · 16/08/2026 18:45

Yes and it has proved to be effective. There have been no new major fires over the weekend which is when they are most likely to happen. That allows the fire service to preserve resources & concentrate on the current major incidents.

It looks like the vast majority of people received the alert & took it seriously. There will always be people who know better & will do what they want.

To be fair a lot of the country have had rain this weekend and a lot more is due this week for the vast majority of the country.

Portmore · 16/08/2026 18:55

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:34

What you have said is irrelevant. You don’t say how the alert actually helped the situation. If you are talking about the fire service being overwhelmed then the alert actually exacerbated the problem as lots of people decide to ring 999 (as they were told to do) to report their neighbours. It has also undermined the integrity of a system that was designed to be used only in national emergencies such as nuclear war or invasion.

People complaining about BBQs is not the same thing at all. Yes it does cause pressure on the call handlers & there has been a lot of publicity asking people not to do that.

The fire service tell people where to go when they get inappropriate calls, they don't send resources out to someone having a bbq.

There have been no new major fires over the weekend , which is when they peak. That has taken some of the pressure off the fire service & allowed them to focus on the current major incidents.

There will always be some who think they know better but the vast majority of the population have understood the severity of the situation & been sensible.

Portmore · 16/08/2026 18:58

isitoverno · 16/08/2026 18:51

To be fair a lot of the country have had rain this weekend and a lot more is due this week for the vast majority of the country.

It's going to take a lot of rain. Everything is so dry it will take continuous rain for some time before it gets right into the ground.

The fires are spreading so quickly because not only is the vegetation tinder dry but the earth is dry deep down - wildfires spread underground.

Portmore · 16/08/2026 19:03

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:20

The alerts should be used to tell people to DO something in an emergency. They were not designed as yet another nannying tool. Yes wildfires are dangerous. If there was one half a mile from my house a warning might have been appropriate. As it was thousands of people were alerted unnecessarily. The government should have been more careful how it uses the tools because now they have been used inappropriately thousands of people won’t listen next time.

If you were trapped in a car wreckage & needed the fire & rescue service or had an electrical fire destroying your home but they were so over capacity there actually wasn't a crew in the area as they were attending a wildfire started by a bbq 100 miles away. Would it bother you then?

If there's no major fires in your area then your local fire crew won't be sitting there waiting to rescue you - they will be deployed out of area to where there is a major incident.

There are a lot of areas with close to zero capacity to respond to an emergency.

Thankfully the majority of people have taken notice of the warning & been sensible. There have been no new major fires over the weekend which is when they peak.

Portmore · 16/08/2026 19:06

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:12

So you don’t have an answer, then? Thought not.
It was a useless excercise in virtue signalling by a government that hasn’t a clue. You might be happy to have the government interfere in every aspect of your life but others are not.

We have explained it repeatedly to you. You are determined that you know better.

We can't help stupid. At least the majority of the population have understood.

BethanM · 16/08/2026 19:10

I think there's also a failure of imagination when people can't. even imagine themselves or people they care for as being affected.

Summersorcherisjustsummer · 16/08/2026 20:30

@Portmore perhaps a more well thought out alarm a few weeks ago ...

Summersorcherisjustsummer · 16/08/2026 20:33

BethanM · 16/08/2026 19:10

I think there's also a failure of imagination when people can't. even imagine themselves or people they care for as being affected.

Or and a lack of hardship ? They don't know what it's like to be homeless or without ones comforts
Scrabbling around fighting insurance companies /trying to get a roof over ones head, simultaneously shopping for pants and basics in Asda

NeverDropYourMooncup · 16/08/2026 20:41

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 16/08/2026 18:37

You haven’t explained what I was supposed to DO when I heard the alert.

Read it?

Be aware that is what the alert sounds like so you aren't thinking either 'what's that noise?' or only 'OMG THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING'?

Portmore · 16/08/2026 20:58

Summersorcherisjustsummer · 16/08/2026 20:30

@Portmore perhaps a more well thought out alarm a few weeks ago ...

There were many, many warnings from fire & rescue services up and down the country. Pleas from NFU, forestry commission among others.

The message didn't sink in ....