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AIBU to discuss A level success without private school spending?

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Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 10:32

Parents/carers who have not spent a penny on Educating their children and they have just received great A level results.

The sacrifices made all the struggle,

I’m interested to discuss families where the child has succeeded without need for private school

https://www.gbnews.com/money/private-school-fees-soar-vat

https://www.ft.com/content/091b214d-231b-414a-8f3e-9ef9fc021926?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Those who did pay,

presumably to secure great results at A level

The same kids off to Uni, placements easier to secure as less international competition. Uni the playing field evens.

And now time to pay for Uni,

https://inews.co.uk/news/education/university-tuition-fees-11000-2030-4705197?srsltid=AfmBOorss52PSHD6xJzisWMdeNxcXDen3IrCGS49nnGH1ZyDnmvTOh_k

A child who did outstanding (without spending a penny) the same result as a family who spent £250k + The above article is a low estimation for a selective U.K. day/ boarding.

The kids holding the same result off to the same Uni, How are families feeling!?…. Did you save to help towards the Uni Fees/accomodation.

Private school fees soar to £216,000 amid VAT raid

A private day school education from reception to A-levels now costs an average of £216,189

https://www.gbnews.com/money/private-school-fees-soar-vat

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Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 19:08

BreakingBroken · 14/08/2026 19:04

so, you are being choosy as to the state schools you are aiming for, you are not simply going for any state school many of which do have availability?

Yes. My child is at private school. Had they delivered (as advertised) would have remained. Hands up I was scammed. If I could go back I would have chosen my local outstanding state.

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Coldwetlettuce · 14/08/2026 19:10

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 10:41

But it’s all cut backs to provision, discounts, support funds and begging for donations. The very people you’re hoping or assuming your children will be mingling with don’t do “cut backs” “economising” hence the shockingly low international draw.

Why would I want my kids to mix with private school entitled spoilt kids? I’d much rather they mixed with down-to-earth state school kids just like them if they go to uni

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 19:14

Todolisttoolong · 14/08/2026 19:04

Like The Royal Opera House?

Like a good cause!

Middle class families not affording the 20% VAT is not charity. 1 in 3 on financial assistance and they wonder why so many are merging or closing.

They are supposed to represent the great and the good, brightest of society ruined by simple maths.

It’s my belief paying full fees is not value for money.

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Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 19:21

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 19:14

Like a good cause!

Middle class families not affording the 20% VAT is not charity. 1 in 3 on financial assistance and they wonder why so many are merging or closing.

They are supposed to represent the great and the good, brightest of society ruined by simple maths.

It’s my belief paying full fees is not value for money.

Edited

It’s too early to tell but the signs aren’t good!

Labour has time to inject the billions into state to level up.

Independent are only just seeing the impact 40,000 already left, mounting operational expenses, families questioning all future fee hikes and hardship to fund 1-3. Just doesn’t present long term viability.

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BreakingBroken · 14/08/2026 19:22

Sadly having children period is not value for money.
What communities have you looked at regarding open places and being accepted? Certainly some areas are well known for better state provision than average; Winchester Oxford two both come to mind.

tabbycatcuddles · 14/08/2026 20:09

Coldwetlettuce · 14/08/2026 19:10

Why would I want my kids to mix with private school entitled spoilt kids? I’d much rather they mixed with down-to-earth state school kids just like them if they go to uni

This is a horrible generalisation and just inverse snobbery. I cringe for you

Maybe few people on this thread could have done with better education themselves, including debate, understanding nuance, subtext and being able to contextualise. Or just manners.

MsSquiz · 14/08/2026 20:17

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 17:05

This private school image is now a joke.

i know so many private school kids who are bullied because their parents put every penny to their fees they can’t afford new clothes or any quality of life.

The state school kids out looking sharp, holidays, enrichment whilst those pouring all their money into private school to face cuts to the arts, sports and co curricular. Many more will leave this year. Unsustainable.

And yet you still send your child to private school, despite having these feelings towards private schools?

it makes no sense

MsSquiz · 14/08/2026 20:19

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 17:43

To summarise

If you’re on a free ride or heavily subsidised by the other full fee paying families.

Of course it’s value for money and you’ll fight for private education.

If you’re rich and you just want your kids in the uniform and choose to ignore all the “economising” and cut backs your own prerogative.

If you’re a full fee payer who values standards and getting value for money this is becoming dubious, questionable. Many seeking discounts and haggling fees.

If you cannot afford it and your household and children suffer to meet fees, debts, hardship, children noticeably going without whilst state school children live happy, normal lives. This is not the path.

Many different perspectives to consider!

Many more will leave and many more will merge or close I know lots seeking hardship support to the next off ramp. Transition point.

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Who are you even conversing with?

your points continue to make no sense, especially as someone who has a child in private education.

your hands are not tied, you are not forced to send or keep your child in private school. You don’t like it, leave…

MsSquiz · 14/08/2026 20:23

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 19:02

Sadly all the good state schools are full and all the independent seem to be suffering the same financial difficulties! As demonstrated by the 40,000 who have already left!

But surely if your opinion is that children will leave school with the same grades regardless of whether they attend private or state school, this is irrelevant?

good state school/ shit state school/shite private school all deliver the same grades to get into the same university (judging by your comments)

SwirlyGates · 14/08/2026 20:32

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 19:08

Yes. My child is at private school. Had they delivered (as advertised) would have remained. Hands up I was scammed. If I could go back I would have chosen my local outstanding state.

If I had a local outstanding state I'd have chosen that too. I didn't, I had a mediocre school with poor student behaviour.

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 20:39

tabbycatcuddles · 14/08/2026 20:09

This is a horrible generalisation and just inverse snobbery. I cringe for you

Maybe few people on this thread could have done with better education themselves, including debate, understanding nuance, subtext and being able to contextualise. Or just manners.

Perhaps.

It would be wonderful if everyone had access to the (1 in 3) funding to better ourselves. Sadly those bursary funds are running dry!

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Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 20:42

MsSquiz · 14/08/2026 20:19

Who are you even conversing with?

your points continue to make no sense, especially as someone who has a child in private education.

your hands are not tied, you are not forced to send or keep your child in private school. You don’t like it, leave…

Leave to where?

The next independent with the exact same financial “problems”

All of the good state are full.

Let’s hope the government start spending the billions to increase state campus and staff!

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MsSquiz · 14/08/2026 20:43

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 20:42

Leave to where?

The next independent with the exact same financial “problems”

All of the good state are full.

Let’s hope the government start spending the billions to increase state campus and staff!

You tell me…
something tells me you will never be happy with the school your child goes to, but that’s due to the chip on your shoulder and not the education your child is getting

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 20:46

SwirlyGates · 14/08/2026 20:32

If I had a local outstanding state I'd have chosen that too. I didn't, I had a mediocre school with poor student behaviour.

My perspective won’t change.

Time will tell.

It’s a waste of money but something I will pay until there is a place at a good school.

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TheBlueKoala · 14/08/2026 22:13

Coldwetlettuce · 14/08/2026 19:10

Why would I want my kids to mix with private school entitled spoilt kids? I’d much rather they mixed with down-to-earth state school kids just like them if they go to uni

🤣 I don't see entitled spoilt kids in my son's school but I see well-behaved confident kids. Your down-to-earth state school kids just look feral in comparaison. They have no manners and nothing is expected of them except showing up. Some are serious/have invested parents and manage to focus on learning in spite of all disruption caused by antisocial elements but why would I let my child struggle when he can be with kind, well-behaved students like himself?

Whatalunatic · 14/08/2026 22:26

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 10:39

The thought is a self driven, self motivated, resourceful child receiving the exact grade off to the same uni to mingle with the same people must today be feeling like they’ve won the lottery!

You don't think a child in a private school is also self driven, self motivated and resourceful?

CurlewKate · 14/08/2026 22:46

Coldwetlettuce · 14/08/2026 19:10

Why would I want my kids to mix with private school entitled spoilt kids? I’d much rather they mixed with down-to-earth state school kids just like them if they go to uni

Well, I wanted my children to mix with kids who shared their interests, regardless of their school sector. They did. And as adults still do.

6thformoptions · 14/08/2026 22:49

Absorbthecost · 14/08/2026 20:46

My perspective won’t change.

Time will tell.

It’s a waste of money but something I will pay until there is a place at a good school.

I feel we are all a bit confused as to what your idea of a good school is though, somewhere your child is guaranteed the best grades?

AgingLikeGazpacho · 14/08/2026 22:57

If OP's kid is currently in primary then the whole argument over A levels is a bit redundant.

Having experienced both state and (a selective academic) private during my primary years, my perspective is that primary private education is largely a waste of money unless your kid has SEND, has struggled with a state in the past (e.g. bullying or highly introverted and struggled with class sizes), or unless you have issues with wrap around care (e.g. no easy options at local state).

The real difference was at the senior school - smaller class sizes, more personal pastoral care, high quality extra curricular activities (leading facilities for rowing, swimming, athletics, climbing, hockey, great music department with successful alumni, drama department with lots of famous alumni, great art department and a private school-owned art gallery in town which regularly showcased UK artists alongside artwork from pupils), and as it was an academic selective school no-one was bullied for being nerdy/a swot - working hard was the standard and other students would encourage one other to study.

The school had a lot of academic SEND kids that were bright but had struggled in mainstream state schools and the school was also good at identifying undiagnosed kids to refer for SEND too which had lifelong benefits to those diagnosed early.

There are, of course, private schools that don't have the same facilities and ethos. However, I think it's shortsighted to throw all private schools into the same bucket and assume A levels are the ultimate measure of success and comparison between schools. I know kids who got top marks and have really struggled with their professional lives, and I know many kids who got mediocre A levels and thrived. The difference between those who thrived and those who didn't was largely due to confidence, tenacity, family support, and having some level of humility and charisma.

People with contacts willing to engage in nepotism will be looked after regardless of school background or A level results, I'm talking about the general public when I comment on the above.

As for my choice for my own child, it'll depend on how she fares in the local (excellent) state school and our family finances. I agree that introducing a stressful financial situation in the household for the sake of sending kids private doesn't necessarily balance out the benefits of private schooling. But if my kid is truly unhappy in the available state schools, then I'd be willing to explore how to make finances work to make private school a viable option for her. This wouldn't be motivated by exam results - purely for ensuring her confidence isn't crushed by a system that is unable to support her.

EvieBB · 15/08/2026 00:11

KyotoKat · 14/08/2026 10:39

We don't pay for grades.

We pay for a happy, confident child who isn't having to constantly fight the system just to get through the day without being bullied or marginalised.

Worth every penny.

Kids still get bullied in private schools. Arseholes exist in every section of society.

Tping · 15/08/2026 00:44

EvieBB · 15/08/2026 00:11

Kids still get bullied in private schools. Arseholes exist in every section of society.

Yeah, but you’re a paying customer and so they do something about it.

Groaaan · 15/08/2026 01:38

KyotoKat · 14/08/2026 10:39

We don't pay for grades.

We pay for a happy, confident child who isn't having to constantly fight the system just to get through the day without being bullied or marginalised.

Worth every penny.

How did you know your child would be bullied? That’s not the norm, thankfully

CurlewKate · 15/08/2026 04:35

Tping · 15/08/2026 00:44

Yeah, but you’re a paying customer and so they do something about it.

Not always.

Rpop · 15/08/2026 07:26

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 14/08/2026 18:10

If you think bullying doesn’t happen in provide schools, I’m sure my dd2 would beg to differ. She certainly experienced bullying in her very academic, highly selective, independent senior school.

And I would add the corollary too - if you have a great state school (I mean top grades, nice area) then it isn’t the stereotypical bullying Grange Hill experience that others think it is.

what do others think - if the school is genuinely lovely and also gets great grades, would you consider going private? Is the ‘softer skills’ and ‘self-confidence’ bit worth it? I don’t know?!!

Flamingojune · 15/08/2026 07:33

tabbycatcuddles · 14/08/2026 20:09

This is a horrible generalisation and just inverse snobbery. I cringe for you

Maybe few people on this thread could have done with better education themselves, including debate, understanding nuance, subtext and being able to contextualise. Or just manners.

Yes especially the ones describing state school kids as feral....

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