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To feel baffled as to why buildings don't have shutters in the UK

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DontSingSusan · Today 07:26

I just find it baffling that virtually no buildings in the UK have shutters.

I get that the climate is changing and they wouldn't necessarily have been needed in the past but why don't new builds have them?

Every time there's a heatwave, people are going on about AC, but shutters are a much easier, cheaper and more climate-friendly option.

It's really striking in the UK as everywhere else in Europe seems to have them.

We've got temperatures around 40 degrees all week (not in the UK) and couldn't survive without them.

OP posts:
EarlofShrewsbury · Today 11:32

likelysuspect · Today 07:30

Our windows open outward in this country so you cant use shutters on them

Nothing to stop new builds working in the other direction of course but then you have to think about window clearance inside the house.

Sash windowed houses can work with shutters of course but theres not a huge number of original sashes left compared to other styles of windows.

We're not generally a hot country so its not really built for heat, we build for cold, hence the ridiciulous amount of insulation requirements now which is why people are cooking in their flats now and its unbearable for them.

Slightly off topic but I live in a street that is 94% council houses and the street was built in 1898.
The council recently had a maintenance drive on the street and changed all the roofs, windows and doors.
They took out all the old windows and replaced then with lovely new sash windows, keeping in line with the architecture. They also put in traditional style doors, not the plain white bog standard ones. I was so impressed.

Somersetbaker · Today 11:32

ERthree · Today 11:11

I am baffled as to why people in this country use fans in rooms with the windows open. I am baffled as to why people in this country don't close the curtains/blinds when it is really hot and sunny.

and I'm fuming about why people think air con is the answer, just LTB.

SerendipityJane · Today 12:03

It's all part of a sinister plot orchestrated by a cabal of air conditioning companies.

Or UK houses being built down to a budget.

NattyKnitter116 · Today 12:07

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 09:14

I live in a flat and have bought a parasol that clamps onto the balcony railing. It is FAR more effective at keeping my flat cool than shutting my curtains. It only cost £50. A fantastic investment!

I agree, Op, new builds should be built to prevent too much heat building up and obviously also to stay warm in winter: Passive cooling such as shutters and shades are very effective and cheap. It’ll only happen with legislation or possibly intense consumer demand.

That’s a good idea. I agree about having the shading on the outside.
we’ve got huge south facing windows and in previous years I tried various blinds but they didn’t do much as the glass still heats up from the sun. Our quick free fix has been a couple of old bedsheets hung outside and we tie them up once the sun has gone round. It’s reduced the indoor heat enough that we can use that room to eat and relax. Might not be the prettiest thing but highly effective.

SadiraOfTyr · Today 12:10

Shutters and fly screens are definitely the way to go. And screen doors.

Phineyj · Today 12:21

ValueofNothing · Today 07:41

The climate has only changed this much in the last handful of years and architects and builders haven't caught up yet.

Edited

I wish they would! We've lived in London for 24 years and there have been 6 heatwaves in that time. Despite fitting solar control blinds on all the west facing windows and putting solar control glass in the bedrooms, this year we've struggled to keep the temperature below 30 degrees upstairs.

Our windows probably need changing soon and if there's anything better on the market, I'm up for it!

Phineyj · Today 12:23

Monvelo · Today 08:09

If we had stuck with the Code for Sustainable Homes we had under Labour in about 2006, by 2016 (I think) all new builds would have been carbon neutral and adapted to future climates, designing in passive ventilation, thinking about solar orientation, etc. Then conservatives got in and 'cut the red tape', apparently we can trust market forces to get us to where we need to be... Not.

Property building is an oligopoly (dominated by a small number of similar firms) with no incentive to change the way they do things.

The Tories really should have given a little thought to what type of market they were dealing with.

Phineyj · Today 12:25

MargoLeadbetterisQueen · Today 08:11

I'm baffled as to why people don't understand the climate and temperature averages of the UK prior to the recent 5 years.
I'm baffled at why people think shutters should have been installed to make a difference for about two days a year, in previous decades.
It's all so baffling.

It's not 5 years though. There's been a heatwave in London on average every 4 years for the last 24 years. There's more than enough justification for change in the SE. People die as a result of the flats that can't be cooled down.

HumberSquid · Today 12:26

UniquePinkSwan · Today 07:29

They aren’t needed

This summer has shown quite clearly that they are if you have south facing windows and no overhang.

Phineyj · Today 12:29

Somersetbaker · Today 08:57

Retractable awnings are what you need, fairly pricey but easy to retrofit. Look at any old photo of your local High Street and almost every shop had them to keep the sun off goods displayed in the window.

That is a good idea. I'm going to check planning regulations on that as I've only seen them on flats.

PensionPTake · Today 12:32

What's the windows opening outward issue? If it's hot enough to have shutters down my windows would be closed to keep the heat out anyway.

BillieWiper · Today 12:36

All buildings are about ten years out of date by the time they're actually ready to be used. I think that has to be one of the reasons.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Today 12:37

Heatwaves have mostly not been all summer though. We have tended to have longer periods when it’s cold and planning has been around conserving heat and making sure the elderly don’t die when it’s cold! Now we need to make sure they don’t die when it’s hot. My parents in law had an awning across the back of the house. Difficult at the front in many ways but even if half the house is shaded it’s not a bad thing. They take maintenance though. It’s still pretty easy to buy fans and blinds to keep out the sun.

Phineyj · Today 12:42

PensionPTake · Today 12:32

What's the windows opening outward issue? If it's hot enough to have shutters down my windows would be closed to keep the heat out anyway.

I don't get that either. If you needed to open the window, you'd open the shutter, then the window, then reverse to close?

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