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To feel baffled as to why buildings don't have shutters in the UK

114 replies

DontSingSusan · Today 07:26

I just find it baffling that virtually no buildings in the UK have shutters.

I get that the climate is changing and they wouldn't necessarily have been needed in the past but why don't new builds have them?

Every time there's a heatwave, people are going on about AC, but shutters are a much easier, cheaper and more climate-friendly option.

It's really striking in the UK as everywhere else in Europe seems to have them.

We've got temperatures around 40 degrees all week (not in the UK) and couldn't survive without them.

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nomorekitchenislandsplease · Today 09:01

DontSingSusan · Today 07:32

Yes, external shutters.

We also have internal shutters on some windows (on the north-facing side), but they're not as effective.

I would love external shutters. Our next big house project will be replacing old windows with sashes and fitting shutters on all but North facing windows.

BillyBites · Today 09:02

Baffled? Really?

SeriouslyAreYouSure · Today 09:02

likelysuspect · Today 07:30

Our windows open outward in this country so you cant use shutters on them

Nothing to stop new builds working in the other direction of course but then you have to think about window clearance inside the house.

Sash windowed houses can work with shutters of course but theres not a huge number of original sashes left compared to other styles of windows.

We're not generally a hot country so its not really built for heat, we build for cold, hence the ridiciulous amount of insulation requirements now which is why people are cooking in their flats now and its unbearable for them.

This. There is nothing baffling about it.

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 09:06

Littlegreywolfcub · Today 07:43

What is also utterly baffling is why it isn't law yet for all new properties to have solar panels to generate electricity.

Agreed! I have been thinking that.

sashh · Today 09:09

InterestedDad37 · Today 07:42

Since my childhood, I have never lived in a house with windows that that open outwards!

External shutters, as are commonly seen in (for example) Spain would be great - a good time to set up a business, if anyone fancies getting in there early.

Edited

Where do you live?

Squirrelintree · Today 09:12

I don't understand all the objections to the word "baffled". I hear people use it in real life too.

I would love external shutters on my house - they are very common in Alpine places like France and Switzerland so they must be good for hot and cold weather. Have also used them on holiday in Spain and Portugal and they're great at keeping the heat out.

Also to the poster who said the west is damp and doesn't need shutters, sadly it was 33C here yesterday and our grass is brown. 😫

NC9000 · Today 09:13

B1anche · Today 07:41

Do people ever get baffled in real life or is it a Mumsnet phenomenon?

MN: shocked, baffled, hurt, ban, report......

dizzydizzydizzy · Today 09:14

DozyCrow · Today 07:42

With our window types, you're probably better off having thermal blinds fitted, like these. They keep the house warmer in winter and cooler in the summer.

We currently have wooden Venetian blinds on our rooms. Although they block out 95% of light when closed, the rooms still get incredibly hot. Blocking light through windows does help a bit, but the sun heats up the building itself and heat rises internally. You'd keep cooler by installing AC.

I live in a flat and have bought a parasol that clamps onto the balcony railing. It is FAR more effective at keeping my flat cool than shutting my curtains. It only cost £50. A fantastic investment!

I agree, Op, new builds should be built to prevent too much heat building up and obviously also to stay warm in winter: Passive cooling such as shutters and shades are very effective and cheap. It’ll only happen with legislation or possibly intense consumer demand.

InterestedDad37 · Today 09:15

sashh · Today 09:09

Where do you live?

England. In my childhood house(s), the windows opened outwards. Since then I've lived in houses with sash windows, or with inward-opening ones. So that's about 45 years.

Wallywobbles · Today 09:17

Windows open outwards in the uk.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · Today 09:18

Until recently it wouldn’t have been thought that they were needed. The U.K. was hardly renowned for blisteringly hot summers.

As pps have said, outward opening windows mean that we can’t have the type you see in so much of mainland Europe.

For myself, I’d never have windows that don’t open (to me) properly - outwards. Sashes are also fine - at least you can have half the window properly open.

The answer is surely blinds on the inside.

Gowlett · Today 09:20

There isn’t consistent heat or sunshine in the UK. Most houses don’t need shutters.

InterestedDad37 · Today 09:22

Gowlett · Today 09:20

There isn’t consistent heat or sunshine in the UK. Most houses don’t need shutters.

Not yet

DemBonesDemBones · Today 09:23

@Theeyeballsintheskythey also keep heat in. Very common in Scotland.

Gowlett · Today 09:24

InterestedDad37 · Today 09:22

Not yet

Good point!

InterestedDad37 · Today 09:24

sashh · Today 09:09

Where do you live?

Oops! Actually the top sections open outwards 😂 Apologies for being a numpty 😂 🪟

muddyford · Today 09:25

The south-facing windows on my last house had awnings, which are another eco-friendly option, unlike air-conditioning. You want to stop the light getting to the glass in the first place.

FastFood · Today 09:26

In France most houses have external shutters, even in regions historically quite cold (Northern France, Alsace, Britanny, Lozère...) it doesn't just offer protection against the heat but also against the cold and the wind and intruders.

I must say, as a french person, I'm quite nostalgic of the ritual of opening the windows and shutters every morning.

BoredZelda · Today 09:37

Littlegreywolfcub · Today 07:43

What is also utterly baffling is why it isn't law yet for all new properties to have solar panels to generate electricity.

Building regs in Scotland require heat pumps / solar panels on new builds.

FinanceLPlates · Today 09:39

I’ve lived in the north of Germany, the climate there is very similar to large parts of the UK. Their windows with integrated external shutters are just soooo much better. Keep the house warm in winter, cool in summer. Make it properly dark and secure at night. The shutters even can protect from the rain - you can semi-close the shutters (rolling them down about a third of the way) and open the window “auf Kipp” behind - the window tilts inward slightly to let in fresh air.
They'd be perfect for all UK weather! However I imagine they’re more expensive to install initially so developers skimp on quality. The cost for the extra heating in winter/aircon in summer will not be on them of course.

Gemilo · Today 09:41

Shutters don't make that much difference to the heat. You would be better off asking why all houses don't have air conditioning.

BaronessBomburst · Today 09:44

I've got shutters and retractable awnings, which I wouldn't be without, but I do understand why they're not a thing in the UK.
What I don't understand is why people don't have fly screens. They keep all the insects out and you can keep your windows open without being bothered by mosquitos. Concertina pull-out ones work with patio doors and you can get ones which work like roller blinds for windows which open outwards. They're not even expensive.

MargoLeadbetterisQueen · Today 09:47

BaronessBomburst · Today 09:44

I've got shutters and retractable awnings, which I wouldn't be without, but I do understand why they're not a thing in the UK.
What I don't understand is why people don't have fly screens. They keep all the insects out and you can keep your windows open without being bothered by mosquitos. Concertina pull-out ones work with patio doors and you can get ones which work like roller blinds for windows which open outwards. They're not even expensive.

I've never been bothered by mosquitos in the UK. It tends to be the odd fly or wasp, easily extracted from the house. Oh and spiders. Nothing significant though.

FinanceLPlates · Today 09:50

Gemilo · Today 09:41

Shutters don't make that much difference to the heat. You would be better off asking why all houses don't have air conditioning.

Proper external shutters make an enormous difference to keep out heat. All for free once they’re installed.

HappilyHarriet · Today 09:53

Gemilo · Today 09:41

Shutters don't make that much difference to the heat. You would be better off asking why all houses don't have air conditioning.

We’ve installed rolling metal shutters on our velux windows - they are amazing at keeping heat out in summer and in over winter. Much more energy efficient than air con.