£610 a week pension demand is insane

[Thisismyfinesthour]

Just read that there is an online petition doing the rounds for a £610 a WEEK pension demand to the government.
WTAF? Is the heat melting some peoples brains? It seems over 5000 have signed it.
Where do they think the money is coming from?

Ummmm… 22% of the UK population are children. Do you expect them to be paying tax?!

Tax the babies!!! 👶🏼

These comments become more and more ludicrous.

@Everanewbie You complained about funding free childcare hours for other people when you dont get them. I pointed out that all pensioner tax payers are funding free childcare for other people when they didnt get it. One rule for you and a different one for pensioners.

For many years people paid in more in tax than they got back, knowing that when they were past pension age it would be the other way around. They didnt whine about it because you didnt complain about helping the less able. Now young people receive far more in benefits than pensioners did at the same age - education for longer, free childcare, universal credit, support for rent, more disabilty benefits if you need them - and more pensioners have saved into personal pensions and can therefore afford to pay tax. Yet the young whine about it.

People sign petitions for all sorts of things. They rarely change a thing.

From the people for the people?

How does it compare to the rest of Europe OP?

@NotNowBernardNotEver Your comments was indeed ludicrous - determined to detract from the difference between "wealth" and income.

Me. I don't care though. Happy to help people less fortunate. Why are you so angry btw?

Childcare help is a benefit, just like UC.

No the boomers were so called because they were such a large cohort. As a group they are taking more out than they have paid in, that’s the point.

Someone “earning” 15k a year etc isn’t paying for their own self let alone funding others childcare hours 🙄

”In fact, we can expect an average “welfare dividend” more than double that of millennials: some £291,000 for someone born in the mid-1950s, compared with £132,000 for someone who entered the world in 1996.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/pensions/state-pensions/babyboomers-like-me-are-going-to-bankrupt-britain/

I have no idea why I bother though as it will fall on deaf ears.

You can’t compare the UK state pension to other European countries because many of them are based on what you pay in vs a flat structure here. And there isn’t the same culture of private pensions.

Yes. My child care "help" was going job share for 12 years. So losing half my salary and half my pension years for 12 years. Now they're bleating that tax payers should pay including me!

You speak as if you've been 'bothering' all day on here. You've only posted a couple of bits. Have a lie down.

How rude. Thought this was an open forum

Calling me rude on this thread with young people bleating at pensioners that the young people are victims is quite the leap.

@fanmenow I'm afraid I cant read the Telegraph, it's behind a pay wall. Tried to find an archive version.

You've missed the point - it used to be accepted that you took out more than you paid in when you were old but you'd paid in more than you took out when young. Yes the boomer generation was larger but they also worked longer and retired later than previous generations and there are also a lot more of them paying tax than in previous generations.

It was the " who asked you " comment that was rude

No it wasnt. Answering a question that I specifically asked someone else was the rude bit.

Have a look through some past posts from a very vocal poster. You'll have a gird.

Just adding to my previous reply. Scotland has no national debt as we have no borrowing powers. Any debt we're "saddled"with was run up by the UK Govt.

But again, lack of reading comprehension.

Young people in Scotland have no debt for university, as the Govt pays their tuition fees.

What's a gird?

So you would come out with" who asked you? " If you were in a group of people chatting in person and someone did that? If so it would sell certainly be considered rude among people I know

I would probably put it a bit more diplomatically, like " I was actually asking Anne", but you get back what you give.

Are you quoting all the other support they get? Housing etc?

What's "sell"?

@anyolddinosaurI know you’re a dinosaur 😆 but just switch into airplane mode and then you can read the article.

Again the silent generation were smaller and didn’t get much from the state so the boomers paid less. They are still taking more from the state then they paid in, it’s all there on the internet for you to read.

Or link to some research to say that isn’t true…