£610 a week pension demand is insane

[Thisismyfinesthour]

Just read that there is an online petition doing the rounds for a £610 a WEEK pension demand to the government.
WTAF? Is the heat melting some peoples brains? It seems over 5000 have signed it.
Where do they think the money is coming from?

My family would likely be better off if income tax was 20% flat and the state pension was eradicated. We would easily save up the amount needed to buy and equivalent annuity with the tax savings.

But this isn't about me. Its about population level.

Blair/Brown also reduced some taxes and were advocates, not of selling off, but of using PFI which is just as bad, and similar in terms of using other peoples' money at a high cost, just like the funds raised from privatisations.

Absolutely. Your posts on these sort of threads are some of the few which are actually factual and numerate. Many of the posts astonishingly ignorant and aggressive while also being not an opinion but factually wrong. And yes re. MIRAS, I mentioned that briefly in one of my earlier posts, too. Young people just starting out with eye watering mortgages would chew off their own arm for that today!

Some people just don’t seem capable of rational and balanced analysis and trying to cherry pick facts to support a particular viewpoint rather than looking at the whole picture. I’m not sure what basis they have to think they know better than every single credible statistically validated large scale economic cohort analysis and why they can’t seem to accept that their generation has had and continues to have economic advantages that no other has ever enjoyed (or is likely to for the foreseeable future). The entitlement is quite something.

My opinion will not change no matter how much and how long you

rail against it. Other people are entitled to an opinion made from their viewpoint, and through discussion, may find empathy with another.
Dictatorial posting won’t achieve that.

PFI was an absolute scandal. It amazes me that this hasn’t been discussed more prominently given we are still paying for these ludicrous contracts that were appalling value for money for taxpayers, all to make Blair and Brown look like they were achieving economic miracles to the cost of the generations following behind.

Still no link(s) @NotNowBernardNotEver?

PFI was very sound in principle but appallingly executed. Contracts were negotiated by NHS employees with no experience which enabled providers to write themselves blank cheques. If the Treasury and DoH had employed a crack team of contract experts from the big four to negotiate the contracts en masse the result would have been very different.

Once again, opinions and objective, numerical facts are not the same thing. If you choose to ignore objective facts and hold opinions which are factually wrong then that’s up to you, but probably best not to write them out on discussion forums otherwise it can make you look rather silly.

Yada yada yada.

No. Stop being lazy. Unless you want to pay me why should I do work for you? I’m not a teacher nor have you paid for my services.

Yes, it can, can’t it? You haven’t presented a shred of evidence for your opinions.

You were replying to @Differentforgirls who'd already said it didn't apply to her

Originally I replied to BIossomtoes

What you have objected to are not opinions of mine, but economic facts, statistics and historic data, which apparently you ”disagree” with having admitted you’ve never bothered to look at it before forming your “opinions” and that you can’t be bothered to do so unless someone spoon feeds it to you like a primary school child.

Perhaps sign up for an economics course? Then there will be a teacher available whose job it is to teach you about it if you are incapable of doing it yourself. It might get you out of the house a bit, as well.

I think, given the above, that all of your posts on any topic involving economics can be safely ignored and uniformed and biased nonsense.

If you refuse to back up what you say it’s opinion. And mine is worth as much as yours. I’ve managed not to insult you too, it’s a shame you fail to reach the same standards.

Yes but you ended up replying to someone who'd already told you their circumstances yet you ploughed on regardless...

You could have posted evidential links in the time it’s taken you to type out those rants.

I’ve told you that I won’t on principle because I’m sick of lazy and entitled people who spout nonsense on the internet on topics of which they are ignorant and then expect other people to educate them for free.

Equally could easily have looked them up yourself by now, if you can manage to use google.

Have you read my posts. I AM RETIRED.

Yes Scotland and the SNP are much better.

I worked for a law firm which made millions out of advising the government on PFI contracts, and we were not too shabby (top 10 globally). The reason the contracts are a bag of shite is not because the NHS et al did not spaff a small fortune on legal fees.

I said employed a team of contract experts, your firm clearly was pretty shabby if the usurious contracts were the best they could do in exchange for its millions. I worked for an NHS trust when it was negotiating a PFI contract - the lead was a former physiotherapist. It was farcical.

@arethereanyleftatall @ CeeJay81 Thread is obvious rage bait as no-one believes it is going to happen. Just an excuse to push the erroneous ide that pensioners are rich. You dont know many older women then. uk.news.yahoo.com/pension-time-bomb-hitting-millions-230500353.html

I did read the posts. And the 62k pension income isn't just state pension between you and your husband.

What do you think we're living on now?