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£610 a week pension demand is insane

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Thisismyfinesthour · 12/08/2026 12:33

Just read that there is an online petition doing the rounds for a £610 a WEEK pension demand to the government.
WTAF? Is the heat melting some peoples brains? It seems over 5000 have signed it.
Where do they think the money is coming from?

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Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 18:44

TankFlyBossW4lk · 13/08/2026 18:22

In April 2010, the equalisation process to 65 started for women

Yes I know. So no one!

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 13/08/2026 18:45

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2026 18:09

The government pension is not the only one you’re supposed to have.

Well it’s the only one a lot of current retirees have, particularly women. So what you’re “supposed to have” is a bit of an irrelevance.

If you only qualify for the State Pension, you are also likely to receive the Pension Credit top-up. If you receive the Guarantee Credit element of Pension Credit then your council tax is zero. Lastly if you rent, then you are still entitled to housing benefit.

Very few are surviving on only the State Pension.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 18:49

Lyraloo · 13/08/2026 18:43

Then you’re lucky, I know lots of poor pensioners. Could you live on £965 per month?
you wait until you’re older, it’s ridiculous all this whinging by younger people about pensions. We didn’t stay in education until we were mid 20’s. I was working from 16, I’ve worked all my life and EARNED my pension by paying into the system for decades. I happily paid for the generation above me to have a pension, on the understanding that pension would be there for me. Now all you young people think you have no responsibility to do the same. Shame on you all!

Not all young people, thankfully.

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2026 18:50

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 13/08/2026 18:45

If you only qualify for the State Pension, you are also likely to receive the Pension Credit top-up. If you receive the Guarantee Credit element of Pension Credit then your council tax is zero. Lastly if you rent, then you are still entitled to housing benefit.

Very few are surviving on only the State Pension.

You’re ill informed. The new state pension is the maximum, if you get that you don’t qualify for pension credit. And different councils offer varying council tax discounts, the only one a solo pensioner gets here is the 25% single person discount. So no, you’re not really the grown up.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 18:51

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 13/08/2026 18:45

If you only qualify for the State Pension, you are also likely to receive the Pension Credit top-up. If you receive the Guarantee Credit element of Pension Credit then your council tax is zero. Lastly if you rent, then you are still entitled to housing benefit.

Very few are surviving on only the State Pension.

Wrong.

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 13/08/2026 18:58

Theres always petitions on this. Totally unrealistic demand. What they should do is increase the basic pension weekly amount of £184.90 up to the new standard pension weekly amount £241.30. That would be more realistic. No government is going to up the Srate Pension to £600+ per week 🙄

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 18:59

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 18:23

That was me roughly before I retired. I downsized to a house which is much more affordable.

So you live on that?

StMarie4me · 13/08/2026 19:00

Everanewbie · 12/08/2026 13:09

Well more than a quarter of over 65s live in a household with assets valued in excess of £1m. So if you have more than a handful of pensioners, your are either a statistical anomaly or a chunk of your acquaintances are understating their wealth

So three quarters are not, then?

AmIReallyTheGrownup · 13/08/2026 19:05

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2026 18:50

You’re ill informed. The new state pension is the maximum, if you get that you don’t qualify for pension credit. And different councils offer varying council tax discounts, the only one a solo pensioner gets here is the 25% single person discount. So no, you’re not really the grown up.

Not really. Anyone getting the guarantee element of pension credit is on zero council tax. This is enshrined in legislation.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/2886/schedule/part/7

Anyone existing on the state pension with no assets is entitled to housing benefit, reduced by around £2 a week for the £3 over £238.

The Council Tax Reduction Schemes (Default Scheme) (England) Regulations 2012

Section 13A of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 (c.14) (“the 1992 Act”), substituted by section 10 of the Local Government Finance Act 2012 (c.17) (“the 2012 Act”), requires each billing authority in England to make a scheme specifying the reducti...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/2886/schedule/part/7

LeahCariad · 13/08/2026 19:07

My parents have been retired 14 years - my DF was very financially astute and their standard of living hasn't dropped at all - their pension equates to pretty much their combined salaries. I've no idea what they do with their money but there is a fair bit invested, they have no money worries, same for my Aunts. They are the boomer generation, DH and I are Gen X.

I don't come from money - dad was one of six, very working class mining community. Same for mum, working class family. There wasn't tons of money around when I was a child; there was enough but I wouldn't have said there was a lot spare. It was only as I entered my teens that our standard of living slowly improved.

Both sets of grandparents would have said they were poor - they weren't. There was a good six figure sum on dad's side, and very nearly that on mum's side (bearing in mind this was almost 30 years ago).

DH and I earn reasonable salaries, but I am quietly working on the assumption that the state pension won't be there when we retire in 15 years (she says with her fingers firmly crossed that it is, but it's not factored in to our projetions) so we are taking necessary steps to secure our finances now.

Making any significant changes to the pension system isn't a vote winner and it won't be popular - it will take a brave government to overhaul the state pension.

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 19:35

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 18:59

So you live on that?

I have a total monthly income of 1400. I save 400 and live off the rest.

Fifthtimelucky · 13/08/2026 19:50

ThatTallPoplar · 13/08/2026 10:53

Being a mentally and physically able baby boomer who has no money left is quite the achievement. Education, housing, employment, benefits have all been in their favour throughout their lifetime, all while they've ensured that their children's generation gets screwed over in every area. Disney couldn't write a worse villain!

I accept that many baby boomers benefited from being able to buy their council houses very cheaply. But things weren’t easy for those who didn’t, especially in London and the south east.

I bought my first flat with a friend, because neither of us had a partner, we couldn’t afford to buy alone, and we could see that with rapidly rising prices we would never be able to get onto the property ladder. The flat lost more than 10% of its value. Yes, I paid 15% interest rates. Both then and a few years later when my husband and I subsequently bought a house together, we were encouraged to take out endowment mortgages. They spectacularly underperformed and covered only around 2/3 of the amount we had borrowed. We had to come up with the rest ourselves.

I don’t accept that education, employment and benefits have been in our favour either.

Many of us had free university education, but the vast majority didn’t. When my 75 year old husband went to university in 1969 only 6% of 18 year olds went to university. By the time I went 10 years later it was 7.5% (with 15% in total in some kind of higher education).

I am not sure those of us who remember the early 80s would agree that that was a great time for employment. The unemployment rate is currently around 5%. In 1984 it was almost 12%.

I don’t know enough about benefits to know how those have changed over the years, but a number of others have already mentioned the very low rates of maternity pay that used to exist, and of course there was no financial help with childcare.

I don’t think this pitting generation against generation is at all helpful. All generations have some advantages and some disadvantages. My parents’ and grandparents’ generations were brought up in the two world wars (both grandfathers were in the trenches) so on the whole I think we are all pretty lucky these days.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 19:50

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 19:35

I have a total monthly income of 1400. I save 400 and live off the rest.

What do you pay your bills with?

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 19:54

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 19:50

What do you pay your bills with?

Using the £1000

lindyloo57 · 13/08/2026 19:56

I will get my state pension in January i get the full pension as does my husband , 2 pension, no private pensions, when the time comes when one of us pass we will have to manage on one pension, let's hope that's a long long time away. But someone on the old state pension or not a full pension will be better off, as they can claim pension credit and all that comes with it.

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2026 19:57

lindyloo57 · 13/08/2026 19:56

I will get my state pension in January i get the full pension as does my husband , 2 pension, no private pensions, when the time comes when one of us pass we will have to manage on one pension, let's hope that's a long long time away. But someone on the old state pension or not a full pension will be better off, as they can claim pension credit and all that comes with it.

Not much comes with it. Where I live precisely nothing.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 20:04

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 19:54

Using the £1000

You must live a very limited life.

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 20:12

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 20:04

You must live a very limited life.

What makes you think that. My expenses total approx £500. That leaves me 500 plus the 400 I put in savings.

BIossomtoes · 13/08/2026 20:25

I can’t conceive of penny pinching to save when the rainy day is already here.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 20:36

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 20:12

What makes you think that. My expenses total approx £500. That leaves me 500 plus the 400 I put in savings.

£500? What. Does that cover? You don't need to reply but it seems very little if it includes council tax, gas, electricity, water (if you're in England), insurance broadband, phone and tv licence.

XenoBitch · 13/08/2026 20:41

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 20:12

What makes you think that. My expenses total approx £500. That leaves me 500 plus the 400 I put in savings.

My DP is similar. He takes home £2k... his rent is nearly £1k, so he has £1k for bills etc. He manages to save a couple of hundred every month too.
Not everyone is spending £300 on gas and electric pm. Mine is £64 for both, and my DP's is around that too.
Also, £1kpm could be fine depending on your lifestyle. Not everyone is jetting off on holiday and eating out all the time, or have expensive hobbies.

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 20:44

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 20:36

£500? What. Does that cover? You don't need to reply but it seems very little if it includes council tax, gas, electricity, water (if you're in England), insurance broadband, phone and tv licence.

Council tax 145 with discount
Energy 100. I add my WFA to my account
Broadband 30
Mobile phone 10
Food 180. A bit more if I have guests
Car insurance 21
10 building insurance
15 tv licence

BeUmberMember · 13/08/2026 20:55

Yes I remember in the1970s we all had to give up work when we had our children. There was no SMP or statutory maternity leave, so most of us became stay at home mums until our children started school at 5 and we just took any low paid part time jobs that could fit around their school hours. So we had to manage on our partners or husbands salaries and struggled paying mortgages or rents until our children were in their teens and we could go back to work full time again.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 20:57

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 20:44

Council tax 145 with discount
Energy 100. I add my WFA to my account
Broadband 30
Mobile phone 10
Food 180. A bit more if I have guests
Car insurance 21
10 building insurance
15 tv licence

Thanks.

Differentforgirls · 13/08/2026 21:04

BigAnne · 13/08/2026 20:44

Council tax 145 with discount
Energy 100. I add my WFA to my account
Broadband 30
Mobile phone 10
Food 180. A bit more if I have guests
Car insurance 21
10 building insurance
15 tv licence

Do you fancy coming to do my budget? 😄❤

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