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AIBU to ask my lodger to cut down on washing machine use?

151 replies

Member869894 · Yesterday 11:22

More of a WWYD really and I'm aware this is a first world problem. I have a lodger. He's nice enough but he uses the washing machine 4-5 times a WEEK. This morning I've come downstairs to a lone pair of shorts in there swishing around.
I'm not good at confrontation. How do i broach this without offending him?

OP posts:
Gettingbysomehow · Yesterday 13:18

Sereine · Yesterday 12:42

Five loads a week for one person? Of course it's a lot. Unless you do something stupid like washing sheets and towels every day.

He most certainly wouldnt be doing that if he had to pay for a laundrette wash but its ok to waste OPs money is it? Let him use the laundrette.

CreativeGreen · Yesterday 13:18

Hey lodger, would you be ok to wait for a full load before turning the washer on? Happy to agree which days we both use it, if that helps?

Dixie81 · Yesterday 13:18

I’d offer to do the laundry for him and chuck it in with my own stuff.

Otherwise, I would just accept that people do things differently. This is a lodger, not a family member. He’s paying for this and modern washing machines are extremely cheap to run anyway. He would use far more electricity by cooking one meal a week.

MajorProcrastination · Yesterday 13:18

Member869894 · Yesterday 11:44

Thanks for all your replies. I'm usually pretty assertive and reasonable; I think its the fact that he's living in my house makes it tricky as I dont want an atmosphere. He uses the eco wash which is 2 hours long. I will say something as now Ive just gone down and on this beautiful hot sunny day the spindryer is whirring...
He works from home so doesn't do anything hot or sweaty and doesnt do sport.

TWO HOURS?!?!?!

whynotwhatknot · Yesterday 13:19

we use the wm 3 times a week between two of us hes being excessive

Dixie81 · Yesterday 13:20

MajorProcrastination · Yesterday 13:18

TWO HOURS?!?!?!

Eco wash on my machine is 3hrs 40 mins.

It uses far less water/electricity than the quick wash but it’s the noise that’s annoying, having it running for hours.

PigletJohn · Yesterday 13:23

Does he pay for his own powder and stuff?

OvernightBloats · Yesterday 13:25

Bet he wouldn't be doing this if he had to pay for the electricity bill himself. He may have the mentality that he is damn well going to get his money's worth out of the rent he is giving you. It's cheeky behaviour.

Watch he doesn't do something similar like put a heater in his room and leave it on overnight.

BerryTwister · Yesterday 13:27

I'm pretty sure that it's not good for a washing machine to have too light a load, same as with a too heavy load. The drum doesn't spin properly.

And as for using the tumble dryer in a heatwave - words fail me!

GaaNeen · Yesterday 13:27

Washing machine on for one pair of shorts ??
he is taking the 💦 literally !!!

Pistachiocake · Yesterday 13:27

What was the agreement when you moved in? I know it's not the same as landlord/tenancy rules as he is just a lodger, but changing after someone's moved in can be tricky. Maybe agree set times if he's willing, and that will be easier as you'll know he's having Tuesday/Friday evenings, or whatever.

bumsnetto · Yesterday 13:32

Think only time this would be ok is if he’s like pooed himself and doesn’t want to contaminate other clothing. Speaking as a potty training mum. Orherwise yeah maybe ask him to do fuller loads.

BerryTwister · Yesterday 13:33

IronEverything · Yesterday 12:13

Five loads a week isn't a lot at all. And he could have spilled something in the shorts and needed to throw them straight in the machine when he had nothing else to wash. If he was using it 5x a day I'd understand but I think you'd be very unreasonable to moan about 5x a week.

@IronEverything are you familiar with the concept of handwashing? If I spilled something on one item of clothing, and I needed it soon, or was worried it would stain, I'd handwash it.

What you do is put water in the wash basin, apply some detergent, and then immerse the garment in the water. You can use a scrubbing brush if the stain needs scrubbing, or if not, you can just sloosh it in the soapy water until it's clean. Then, you rinse the garment in the sink, using water from the tap.

The whole process uses zero electricity, takes a few minutes, uses a fraction of the water that a washing machine does - and in this weather, you'd have a clean dry pair of shorts within an hour. It's incredible what humans can do if they put their mind to it!

SatansScrotum · Yesterday 13:36

Give him a choice. If you aren't put out by a lack of access to the machine then maybe:

"When you moved in, it was on the basis you'd be paying £X per wewk. This was calculated on the assumption that you'd be doing X full loads of washing each week. Given that isn't the case, would you rather pay £X amount more or consolidate your loads? I'd personally prefer you to consolidate as your current usage is making it difficult for me to plan my own laundry and I really don't want to schedule set days for laundry! I want you to feel comfortable and a laundry schedule is a bit more uptight than I'd want us to be!"

chaosmaker · Yesterday 13:38

Isn't he aware of the water shortage apart from anything else

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 13:40

CuteOrangeElephant · Yesterday 11:31

I don't think washing 4-5 times a week is excessive. Washing 1 pair of shorts at a time is though.

4-5 times a week that is:
1 load of bedding
1 load of towels/gym gear
2 loads of clothing

It's excessive for one person!

Bedding once every two or three weeks should be fine. Even so a sheet and a duvet cover wouldn't fill up the machine.
A bath towel and hand/hair towel a week is not a full load.
One load of clothing with another white load sometimes so about 1.3 loads per week.
If someone exercises a lot, then yes, than can be another load so an average or 1 or 2 loads for a single person.

In any case, machine should not be on unless 80% full so OP can just tell him this.

ABitFab · Yesterday 13:41

Does he not have many clothes? How old is he?

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 13:42

" If I spilled something on one item of clothing, and I needed it soon, or was worried it would stain, I'd handwash it."

I would just sponge the actual stain and if I wore shorts (or whatever) a lot, I would have more than one pair!

Wingingit73 · Yesterday 13:42

Is his rent inclusive of bills. Up it a bit but explain why. Give him the option to pay more ir reduce washing. Its got to be his choice as he's your lodger not your child

Peonies12 · Yesterday 13:44

I’d say 3 loads a week is ok. Maybe just ask he waits to do a full load, tell him the water bill has gone up loads so other option is you put his rent up

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 13:45

Wingingit73 · Yesterday 13:42

Is his rent inclusive of bills. Up it a bit but explain why. Give him the option to pay more ir reduce washing. Its got to be his choice as he's your lodger not your child

You can't just up the rent. When rent is inclusive of bills, the LL has to accept it can be in her favour or not. I pay all inclusive rent and my LL can't tell me how much heating to use, for example.

On the other hand, not running a washing machine that's mainly empty is a general principle and not to do with bills so LL can just explain this to him.

Gwenhwyfar · Yesterday 13:46

BerryTwister · Yesterday 13:27

I'm pretty sure that it's not good for a washing machine to have too light a load, same as with a too heavy load. The drum doesn't spin properly.

And as for using the tumble dryer in a heatwave - words fail me!

She said 'spin dryer'. Did she just mean the spin function of the washing machine?

AlwaysExtraHot · Yesterday 13:47

Dixie81 · Yesterday 13:18

I’d offer to do the laundry for him and chuck it in with my own stuff.

Otherwise, I would just accept that people do things differently. This is a lodger, not a family member. He’s paying for this and modern washing machines are extremely cheap to run anyway. He would use far more electricity by cooking one meal a week.

I’d offer to do the laundry for him and chuck it in with my own stuff.
Slippery slope. You take on the responsibility of making sure they've got clean clothes.

AlwaysExtraHot · Yesterday 13:48

MajorProcrastination · Yesterday 13:18

TWO HOURS?!?!?!

My machine's eco wash is just over three hours!

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 13:49

TourdeCrema · Yesterday 11:50

Under loading a washing machine is a total disregard for water and electric, it’s taking the piss

id explain that a washing machine being constantly under loaded is not good for the machine ( it’s not particularly) as is overloading. So in future you’re limiting his use of the washing machine to 2x per week for free and any additional loads to £10 each load.

that will hopefully make him realise the cost, and when it becomes his cost rather than yours he will change his habits

It might make him change his address.