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AIBU to think cancelling the flight over a child was excessive

306 replies

MrsShawnHatosy · 10/08/2026 16:08

An airline cancelled a flight because a child refused to sit down and put their seatbelt on. AIBU to think they should have asked the parents to get off, rather than cancelling the flight and stranding the rest of the passengers?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/news/flight-cancelled-passengers-stranded-due-37532204

Flight cancelled and passengers stranded due to child's actions

Flight PD444 from Victoria International Airport in B.C. to Toronto's Pearson International Airport did not take off on Thursday after a child passenger onboard refused to sit down

https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/news/flight-cancelled-passengers-stranded-due-37532204

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Anna1mac · 10/08/2026 18:09

Makes me wish it was the seventies .. a quick slap and issue sorted

TheignT · 10/08/2026 18:09

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 10/08/2026 18:08

@Blondeshavemorefun You haven't watched the Lockerbie series on Netflix, have you?

Luggage NEVER travels without the passenger who checked it in. Unless there has been a serious security breach.

That's what I thought.

Whaleandsnail6 · 10/08/2026 18:11

Limeandfigs · 10/08/2026 16:39

The article says that the child was buckled in but would then slide out underneath.

I don't know why they weren't physically restrained to be honest. If a child is young and small enough that they can stand on the seat (per the article) then they're young and small enough that parents could link an arm each on either side and hold them in place with the seatbelt on.

I do think airlines should be able to heavily fine passengers (or their parents in this case) who disrupt a flight to the extent it's cancelled. It's incredibly expensive for all concerned, to say nothing of the disruption to other passengers.

I agree with this.

OonaStubbs · 10/08/2026 18:12

They should be put on a no-fly list. Pathetic "parenting".

TheignT · 10/08/2026 18:12

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:06

They headed back to disembark the family and missed their take off spot.

Also anyone who thinks they could get any child secured in a seatbelt never tried to put my son in a buggy or car seat. He's 8 now, at various times various family members all of whom have children and are very experienced couldn't get this boy in a seatbelt aged 2. I once called work almost in tears to explain I'd be late as I could not get him in his car seat to take him to nursery and it would have been harder to walk or secure him in a buggy. I cried the whole way to work when I eventually managed.

He's massive and ridiculously strong and always has been, also ADHD and ASD but we didn't know that then we only knew he was quite a lot of work and never slept. I can't definitely imagine a world where I would have been that parent. Mins you understand no circumstances would I have taken him on a plane, even then we referred to him as 'non standard' because we knew he wouldn't cope even for the 20 mins flight from Glasgow to Belfast. I used to get the rail and sail and have him in a carrier or running about on rekna, a 6 hour journey was easier than trying to take him on a plane.

Yes I think adults could do it but they would possibly injure the child. If they are in a state they seem to have phenomenal strength. If the parents plus crew couldn't do it then it was pretty extreme.

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/08/2026 18:13

Minasama · 10/08/2026 17:53

Child needed a good spanking, so did the parent probably. They should have removed them and removed their luggage, and that parent should not be allowed to book further flights with that child.

Except that doesn't work on distress (or at all because it's piss poor parenting) and illegal in Canada for under 2s. Or if done in anger.

And everyone is seeing this as a failure of gentle parenting. But I grew up in South London with people who were parented the opposite way. Lots of physical chastisement and shouting. And it did not result in wonderfully behaved upstanding citizens. I aslo lived for many years in Canada with gentle parented snowflakes. And they are, day to day, wonderful, helpful, famously wellbehaved people.

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:13

I think it’s easy to underestimate how strong a determined child can be

i am sure the parents tried but while you can restrain a child forcing someone into a sitting position is much harder

notimagain · 10/08/2026 18:13

Luggage NEVER travels without the passenger who checked it in. Unless there has been a serious security breach

If I don't mention it someone will - strictly that's not quite true.

If it was true lost baggage would never get back to it's owner.

There are ways of transporting unaccompanied baggage/cargo/packages safely, but none of those would have helped in this case 🤔..

In this instance the bags had to come off.

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:14

But this article is like catnip to a certain type of person

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/08/2026 18:14

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 10/08/2026 18:08

@Blondeshavemorefun You haven't watched the Lockerbie series on Netflix, have you?

Luggage NEVER travels without the passenger who checked it in. Unless there has been a serious security breach.

I guess this is a very good point

no I haven’t. I don’t have Netflix

BirdLandedonmyHead · 10/08/2026 18:16

Maybe aircraft should carry something like the CARES harness for children who need more than the lap belt?

Cla7 · 10/08/2026 18:17

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/08/2026 18:00

Maybe their luggage should stay on and return on the returning flight once plane has turned around

Safety level 0/10.

Wadsworthy · 10/08/2026 18:18

The parents should have been heavily fined. Apparently other travellers were left trying to scramble for hotel rooms, as the airline didn't arrange that. And I gather some people weren't able to find overnight accommodation.

I'd have been furious.

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:18

TheignT · 10/08/2026 18:12

Yes I think adults could do it but they would possibly injure the child. If they are in a state they seem to have phenomenal strength. If the parents plus crew couldn't do it then it was pretty extreme.

Absolutely! He's have been I jured if the force required was applied!

Goatsarebest · 10/08/2026 18:19

BebbanburgIsMine · 10/08/2026 18:04

It most definitely does state that the child was scared, so you owe this poster an apology.

It’s you that needs to read the article again.

She has apologies. Maybe you need to read the thread again.

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:20

MrsTerryPratchett · 10/08/2026 18:13

Except that doesn't work on distress (or at all because it's piss poor parenting) and illegal in Canada for under 2s. Or if done in anger.

And everyone is seeing this as a failure of gentle parenting. But I grew up in South London with people who were parented the opposite way. Lots of physical chastisement and shouting. And it did not result in wonderfully behaved upstanding citizens. I aslo lived for many years in Canada with gentle parented snowflakes. And they are, day to day, wonderful, helpful, famously wellbehaved people.

Same, grew up on Ireland parented in 80s style hit first ask questions later. My sister is exactly like my son, I remember my dad beating her trying to get her in a seatbelt to get to school, this girl was 6 and she unbuckled herself and jumped out of a reversing car. They had to admit defeat and he was a big man happy to hurt you.

Wadsworthy · 10/08/2026 18:21

The article says that the child was buckled in but would then slide out underneath.

Incompetent parenting.

Victorius19 · 10/08/2026 18:23

Mind boggling, those poor people getting so delayed and then being stuck overnight because of someone's ineffective parenting.

Cailin66 · 10/08/2026 18:23

Rightsraptor · 10/08/2026 17:28

The child was frightened and it also seems to have been after 11pm, so I'd suggest the lateness of the flight was a big factor in unsettling the child.

So what if it was 11 pm. Don’t fly if your child is a brat, or if your child can’t behave, or if the time is too unsettling for your child.

Linetree · 10/08/2026 18:24

Wadsworthy · 10/08/2026 18:21

The article says that the child was buckled in but would then slide out underneath.

Incompetent parenting.

I'm inclined to agree, in that I really can't imagine one of mine doing that, but in reality, if you've got one who is determined to slide out of the belt, how do you stop it?

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

Anyahyacinth · 10/08/2026 17:19

Open the door and walk into air? Onto the taxi route to the runway?? Leaving their luggage in the plane against all travel rules??
As others have said the plane had left the gate, timings are that tight...this wasn't a bus to get straight off

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

TheignT · 10/08/2026 18:25

Velumental · 10/08/2026 18:18

Absolutely! He's have been I jured if the force required was applied!

Yes it's scary to think what could happen.

Linetree · 10/08/2026 18:27

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

I think it's entirely possible a child could be comfortable until the plane started moving.

notimagain · 10/08/2026 18:27

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

Yes indeed.

The full story of how this played out would be interesting to hear, but we may not get it.

idontlikeasking · 10/08/2026 18:29

FOJN · 10/08/2026 18:24

I'd be very surprised if the child had sat like a model passenger right up until the moment they pushed back, possible but unlikely. I suspect the parents thought the there would be little the airline could do once they'd left the gate.

I’m inclined to think the parents were despairing and probably very upset.

apart from anything else you’d have to have the hide of a rhino not to feel the disapproval and hatred.

It’s hardly a common occurrence, even though MN would have you believe feral children are grounding flights routinely, and is indicative to me of some other issue