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The Jason Arday scandal, part deux

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KatiePricesKnickers · 10/08/2026 07:09

As the book launch is coming, let the discussion continue.

First thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5563599-the-jason-arday-scandal?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share
This is lifted from the thread in the education section, which is an interesting summary
https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

Or AIBU with not letting this fade away?

The Great and Unfortunate Story of Jason Arday

A One-Stop Shop For the Craziest Scandal of 2026

https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/the-great-and-unfortunate-story-of?r=8w0woc&triedRedirect=true

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InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 16/08/2026 14:19

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 13:30

The fact that the MMR case remained in the news for years doesn't prove that Wakefield had the same kind of personal visibility or exposure. Indeed, I've never heard of him or seen his face until this conversation, whereas JA's face and name were being circulated relentlessly across social media.

JA's face was plastered all over my social media for many weeks, despite the fact that I never clicked on a single story. That's a very different phenomenon: weeks of algorithmically amplified, personalised online exposure and public shaming. And the morning before he ended his life, JA reportedly called a colleague and said he couldn't leave his house because his face had become an emblem of shame. That gives you some indication of the nature of the exposure he was experiencing.

You're also simply asserting that JA's case involved "deliberate research fraud" and specific consequences for UK education and public policy as though those are established facts. They aren't. The allegations and findings surrounding his work are considerably more contested and, far from being comparable to Wakefield's deliberate fabrication of research, JA's case appears to concern much more ordinary academic misconduct, including plagiarism. Different institutions have also reached different conclusions following investigations.

And the claim that the consequences were comparable to Wakefield's is equally difficult to sustain. Wakefield's fraudulent research directly contributed to a major and enduring public-health scare around childhood vaccination, with consequences extending far beyond academia. Whatever one's view of JA's conduct, it simply isn't equivalent in scale or nature.

Wakefield’s “research” was 1998 and then he was struck off on 2010. Social media was a different beast back then, it’s not entirely surprising he wasn’t all over your Facebook, and “surgeon falsifies link between mmr vaccine and developing autism” doesn’t have quite the same emotive punch as “black Cambridge academic who claims he was autism, non verbal til 11 and had a brain tumour , who was accused of plagiarism may have told a shed load of lies about other things”
(Not in the least because autism was regarded totally differently sixteen years ago)

WonderfulSmith · 16/08/2026 14:23

Everyone saying that they’d never heard of him.
This program is from a year ago: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0029zdd talking about his life, unable to read etc.

A book program from 2023. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001sm8n

Editing the Today Program 2023.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001ts2s

BBC Radio 4 - Beyond Lonely, A Lonely Life

Professor Jason Arday explores loneliness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0029zdd

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 14:37

TJH1 · 16/08/2026 14:11

Ah but I actually like Farage, you wasnt expecting that was you?

As for reading comprehension? You have a nerve. Uttering JA and Saville in the same paragraph and you cant see while someone might find it offensive?

Weren't, not wasn't. No you don't have a grasp on grammar for a start.

If you like Farage and would pop up on a thread about his death saying 'leave him alone'

Then fine. You'd still be wrong in asking people to shut up.

And yes, your comprehension is in question if you claim I uttered JA and Saville in the same paragraph when my post was this:

"Of course I do. have compassion for his ex wife and DC

But people accused of things die all the time. Convicted paedophiles have high suicide rates.

Should we have not investigated Saville since he was dead?

Should we automatically stop talking about cons, fraud, lies, false allegations or crimes because the person died?

JA actions harmed a lot of people. And caused damage to society."

Do you not know what a paragraph is?

And no, I don't know what you found so offensive in my post when I was clearly not comparing JA to Saville but responding to a poster who said everyone should shut up about JA because he was dead and if we didn't, we didn't have compassion for his family.

It's emotional manipulation which lets be honest, enabled JA fraud for so many years. 'Don't ask that, he's black/Autistic/LD/a victim and survivor/a campaigner/a hero/an inspiration.

That's exactly how he got away with it for so many years. Got a round of applause for his public speaking saying he raised 5 million for charity, running 9 marathons with a broken leg after an epileptic seizure and and being put forward for a pride of Britain award and actually carrying the Olympic torch in 2012 because of his incredible life story and fundraising.

Then when after years of his lies being shut down by accusations of racism including reporting people to the Police someone actually said '5 million seems a lot, JA said well it wasn't just me it was 100 other people in a group. 'Great, who are they?'. I can't say because I signed an NDA but all this questioning is racist and I've been threatened by a masked man in Cambridge offices and my family were sent a pigs head so just stop it all you racists.

But then there was no evidence for that was there?

That's why it's been such a big story. Because JA was a complete fantasist who accused anyone who asked him questions of being racist AND then made up other claims of racist attacks.

Anyone who thinks that isn't important and we should let it go just don't understand the numerous harms he's caused.

Glitterella · 16/08/2026 14:38

1dayatatime · 16/08/2026 13:05

DEI made him their emperor.

The rest of us and the media simply pointed out that he had no clothes.

The blame for his tragic death was the Universities putting him in to positions he was out of his depth to fulfill and in their zest for DEI not adequately doing their due diligence on his claims.

This over and over and over again…

Until the world wakes up to the fact that meritocracy is the only way for people to achieve power or stature or wealth or positions of leadership we will keep seeing more and more emperors…

We are all to blame for his death. Those who promoted him beyond his station as well as those who pointed out that the emperor had no clothes. Even posthumously he is not without blame for his own ending.

Whilst he may have ended his life because of the ‘hounding’ attention it is also likely that with a book being published he knew that more was about to be revealed that he wouldn’t be able to hide from.

Either way… Merit over everything always.

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 14:51

sammyvine · 16/08/2026 13:05

White people are more upset about Jason Arday's lies than actual pedo Prince Andrew.
Now I know why Meghan Markle got the hell out of the UK.

They're not.

And there's no actual evidence of Andrew- a clearly predatory and exploitative man -being a paedo.

A paedophile has an actual definition. Am adult who has a singular or primary sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

There's evidence from an alleged victim who was 17 at the time that I believe, but that does not a paedo make.

Nor was he committing a criminal offence at the time he exploitatively had sex with her.

Lots of people understand what paedo means and what the laws are, and were at the time.

It doesn't mean we don't care and I welcome any investigation or charges that could be made with potential other victims, which I think are likely.

But it doesn't mean we don't care, we just understand definitions and laws.

TJH1 · 16/08/2026 15:00

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 14:37

Weren't, not wasn't. No you don't have a grasp on grammar for a start.

If you like Farage and would pop up on a thread about his death saying 'leave him alone'

Then fine. You'd still be wrong in asking people to shut up.

And yes, your comprehension is in question if you claim I uttered JA and Saville in the same paragraph when my post was this:

"Of course I do. have compassion for his ex wife and DC

But people accused of things die all the time. Convicted paedophiles have high suicide rates.

Should we have not investigated Saville since he was dead?

Should we automatically stop talking about cons, fraud, lies, false allegations or crimes because the person died?

JA actions harmed a lot of people. And caused damage to society."

Do you not know what a paragraph is?

And no, I don't know what you found so offensive in my post when I was clearly not comparing JA to Saville but responding to a poster who said everyone should shut up about JA because he was dead and if we didn't, we didn't have compassion for his family.

It's emotional manipulation which lets be honest, enabled JA fraud for so many years. 'Don't ask that, he's black/Autistic/LD/a victim and survivor/a campaigner/a hero/an inspiration.

That's exactly how he got away with it for so many years. Got a round of applause for his public speaking saying he raised 5 million for charity, running 9 marathons with a broken leg after an epileptic seizure and and being put forward for a pride of Britain award and actually carrying the Olympic torch in 2012 because of his incredible life story and fundraising.

Then when after years of his lies being shut down by accusations of racism including reporting people to the Police someone actually said '5 million seems a lot, JA said well it wasn't just me it was 100 other people in a group. 'Great, who are they?'. I can't say because I signed an NDA but all this questioning is racist and I've been threatened by a masked man in Cambridge offices and my family were sent a pigs head so just stop it all you racists.

But then there was no evidence for that was there?

That's why it's been such a big story. Because JA was a complete fantasist who accused anyone who asked him questions of being racist AND then made up other claims of racist attacks.

Anyone who thinks that isn't important and we should let it go just don't understand the numerous harms he's caused.

Edited

I think you are mixing me up with some one else, I am not asking anyone to shut up. All I am saying is that I don’t think Saville and JA should be mentioned in the same sentence/paragraph/Post.

That is all

And I give zero that you pull me up on my grammar.

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 15:12

TJH1 · 16/08/2026 15:00

I think you are mixing me up with some one else, I am not asking anyone to shut up. All I am saying is that I don’t think Saville and JA should be mentioned in the same sentence/paragraph/Post.

That is all

And I give zero that you pull me up on my grammar.

I'm not mixing you up with anyone.

I replied to a post directly made to me saying I should stop talking about JA because he was dead and querying if I had any compassion for his family?

I responded saying I did but someone being dead shouldn't mean we all shut up and said should we have shut up about Saville since he was dead when he was finally exposed?

And then you said I should be ashamed of myself for comparing JA to Saville.

Which I literally did not do. I gave Saville as an example of why we shouldn't just shut up because someone is dead.

Then you doubled down saying I'd put JA and Saville in the same paragraph which it was easy to refute since I didn't.

So you might not be bothered by my judgement of your lack of comprehension or understanding but it's still true that you lack it.

TJH1 · 16/08/2026 15:40

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 15:12

I'm not mixing you up with anyone.

I replied to a post directly made to me saying I should stop talking about JA because he was dead and querying if I had any compassion for his family?

I responded saying I did but someone being dead shouldn't mean we all shut up and said should we have shut up about Saville since he was dead when he was finally exposed?

And then you said I should be ashamed of myself for comparing JA to Saville.

Which I literally did not do. I gave Saville as an example of why we shouldn't just shut up because someone is dead.

Then you doubled down saying I'd put JA and Saville in the same paragraph which it was easy to refute since I didn't.

So you might not be bothered by my judgement of your lack of comprehension or understanding but it's still true that you lack it.

Where have I said you should stop talking about JA because he is dead? Where have I queried if you had any compassion for his family?

I will say for the last time, you should be ashamed for bringing Saville into this.

However you have given me a taste of how vindictive you are, going on like a dog on a bone, give it up.

I won’t be responding to you any further.

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 15:50

TJH1 · 16/08/2026 15:40

Where have I said you should stop talking about JA because he is dead? Where have I queried if you had any compassion for his family?

I will say for the last time, you should be ashamed for bringing Saville into this.

However you have given me a taste of how vindictive you are, going on like a dog on a bone, give it up.

I won’t be responding to you any further.

I didn't say you did.

I was responding to a poster saying I should shut up about Arday because he is dead and I should have compassion for his family.

I replied saying someone being dead isn't a reason to not talk about or investigate them and said should we have not talked about or investigated Saville because he was dead?

I said you jumped on my post without obviously understanding what I was responding to and said I was comparing JA to Saville and it was one of the worst things you'd ever seen on MN and I should be ashamed of myself.

And I'm vindictive for defending myself and saying you were wrong and not letting it go?

Aye, I get you.

Can see why you think people should let it go with Arday. Because you lack the understanding to know what people are concerned about and think anyone calling you out is a big meanie that just won't let it go so you won't respond anymore.

Luckily you can't accuse me of racism, report me to the Police or set an aggressive legal firm on me like Arday did.

Piknik · 16/08/2026 15:54

It seems to me that Jason Arday was a lot of different things that were often in conflict with each other. He was, amongst many other things:
A fantasist
Vulnerable
Black
A scholar
A husband
A father
A liar
A person who may or may not have been on the spectrum in some way
A pawn in the race to be the most progressive
A nice bloke
A bad lecturer
Someone who used accusations of racism to deflect
Someone who clearly needed better guidance and stronger scrutiny for his own sake

And on the list goes.

Maybe we stop talking about Jason now that he is dead.

Maybe we talk about Cambridge, the Media, the wider problem and leave Jason's name out of it. If we can't do that, maybe this thread should be pulled.

NotAnotherScarf · 16/08/2026 16:06

sammyvine · 16/08/2026 13:02

Are you really sure about that? If this was a White man or woman would you feel the same way? Hmmm

Yes. I am actually getting increasingly bitter that only one kid in 1987 from my school went to university out of 242 who started in 1980. Only 4 people of colour in the year.

So someone who broke through the class barrier from the same background and did so by cheating would piss me off equally as it makes it harder for that to happen again.

Btw not bitter for myself. Too lazy and not mature enough for uni at 18 but given i know at least 5 people who went subsequently and another 10 who should have been pushed to go from 14 onwards because they were intelligent capable people. Instead the school wanted to churn out dockers, factory hands and shop assistants

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/08/2026 16:46

James O’Brien will be insufferable tomorrow.
He loves to wallow in a bit of racism.

OP posts:
BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 17:05

KatiePricesKnickers · 16/08/2026 16:46

James O’Brien will be insufferable tomorrow.
He loves to wallow in a bit of racism.

I doubt he'll bother positioning himself further as a victim. He already said he was a mug for supporting JA

He won't admit it was because JA flattered him into feeling fortunate that he in his "white privilege' was lucky to be considered a great white bloke by a black male victim alleged of systemic racism.

But that's what it was.

He'll struggle now after saying he was a mug to claim JA was a victim of anything.

sammyvine · 16/08/2026 17:25

Piknik · 16/08/2026 15:54

It seems to me that Jason Arday was a lot of different things that were often in conflict with each other. He was, amongst many other things:
A fantasist
Vulnerable
Black
A scholar
A husband
A father
A liar
A person who may or may not have been on the spectrum in some way
A pawn in the race to be the most progressive
A nice bloke
A bad lecturer
Someone who used accusations of racism to deflect
Someone who clearly needed better guidance and stronger scrutiny for his own sake

And on the list goes.

Maybe we stop talking about Jason now that he is dead.

Maybe we talk about Cambridge, the Media, the wider problem and leave Jason's name out of it. If we can't do that, maybe this thread should be pulled.

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sammyvine · 16/08/2026 17:27

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 15:50

I didn't say you did.

I was responding to a poster saying I should shut up about Arday because he is dead and I should have compassion for his family.

I replied saying someone being dead isn't a reason to not talk about or investigate them and said should we have not talked about or investigated Saville because he was dead?

I said you jumped on my post without obviously understanding what I was responding to and said I was comparing JA to Saville and it was one of the worst things you'd ever seen on MN and I should be ashamed of myself.

And I'm vindictive for defending myself and saying you were wrong and not letting it go?

Aye, I get you.

Can see why you think people should let it go with Arday. Because you lack the understanding to know what people are concerned about and think anyone calling you out is a big meanie that just won't let it go so you won't respond anymore.

Luckily you can't accuse me of racism, report me to the Police or set an aggressive legal firm on me like Arday did.

You need to let it go
You are really bitter about this topic and it's not healthy. The man has passed now which I am sure you are happy about. Go and drink your champagne and move on with your life.

Nameychangington · 16/08/2026 17:57

sammyvine · 16/08/2026 17:27

You need to let it go
You are really bitter about this topic and it's not healthy. The man has passed now which I am sure you are happy about. Go and drink your champagne and move on with your life.

Point to the post where anyone has said they're happy he's dead, or that they're drinking champagne. It's so adolescent to keep on saying people are celebrating his death as a way to try to stop people talking about the situation. Does this work on Reddit? Actually yeah it probably does.

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 19:11

BySunnyJadeEagle · 16/08/2026 13:48

How old are you?

Wakefield paper was published in 1998. It immediately had other researchers questioning it but the first hit piece investigation was published in 2004 when it was discovered Wakefield had money in promoting MMR being dangerous.

FB was just starting in 2004 and it took another 6 years for him to be struck off by the GMC and for the original research paper to be retracted.

So it was news and created a huge amount of media coverage but rumbled on for years. It wasn't a 'developing news story' like JA where more and more was coming out rapidly.

Which is why even though the press coverage was extensive, it wasn't concentrated over a few weeks. It was years.

And Wakefield didn't have the incredible back story that JA had made his career and a lot of money off the back of, and couldn't claim he was being targeted because of his race and make up stories about that which could then be questioned and found to be untrue.

Right, so it's a completely unhelpful comparator - both in the nature of the fraud (fabrication of scientific data compared to misrepresentation and plagiarism), the impact (the fabricated vaccine data having significant and long lasting public health impacts) and in the media context/ coverage surrounding the cases.

More useful would be too look at any number of recent formal investigations of academic misconduct and plagiarism, which rarely make national news, and tend to be little known of outside of academia.

JA was targeted because he was black. We know this - the man who kick started this whole thing is a well known racist (self declared "race realist") who was sacked for saying that if appointments were based on merit there would be virtually no black professors. The allegations of academic misconduct against JA haven't even been resolved. The case has been front page news and all over social media for weeks - JA's face - that of a dark skinned black man with long dreadlocks - plastered everywhere. The public shaming was relentless and it cost this man his life.

So, enough already, enough.

If there is something to discuss, it is how badly Cambridge handled the matter - from beginning to end, and also broader questions about structural racism. But for god's sake put the pitchforks down and engage in some self reflection.

Gloriia · 16/08/2026 19:42

'But for god's sake put the pitchforks down and engage in some self reflection'

Yes, those shrieking anyone is 'drinking champagne and celebrating' JA's death really need to stop making things up and whipping up hate.

The people at fault were are those who enabled all the delusions and clearly didn't help when he was exposed. Let's hope they do indeed engage in some reflection.

WonderfulSmith · 16/08/2026 19:45

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 19:11

Right, so it's a completely unhelpful comparator - both in the nature of the fraud (fabrication of scientific data compared to misrepresentation and plagiarism), the impact (the fabricated vaccine data having significant and long lasting public health impacts) and in the media context/ coverage surrounding the cases.

More useful would be too look at any number of recent formal investigations of academic misconduct and plagiarism, which rarely make national news, and tend to be little known of outside of academia.

JA was targeted because he was black. We know this - the man who kick started this whole thing is a well known racist (self declared "race realist") who was sacked for saying that if appointments were based on merit there would be virtually no black professors. The allegations of academic misconduct against JA haven't even been resolved. The case has been front page news and all over social media for weeks - JA's face - that of a dark skinned black man with long dreadlocks - plastered everywhere. The public shaming was relentless and it cost this man his life.

So, enough already, enough.

If there is something to discuss, it is how badly Cambridge handled the matter - from beginning to end, and also broader questions about structural racism. But for god's sake put the pitchforks down and engage in some self reflection.

No, he was targeted because he had been on a lot of different media saying all the different things he had done and a lot of people, including myself, were taken in by it. It wasn’t just plagiarism.
He was on a different media because he was notable as being the youngest black professor at Cambridge. That is what put him in the public eye. Him lying about his life is not to do with his race. Being the youngest black professor at Cambridge was an amazing achievement. That he got there unfairly was not acceptable.

Sunnibee · 16/08/2026 19:54

WonderfulSmith · 16/08/2026 19:45

No, he was targeted because he had been on a lot of different media saying all the different things he had done and a lot of people, including myself, were taken in by it. It wasn’t just plagiarism.
He was on a different media because he was notable as being the youngest black professor at Cambridge. That is what put him in the public eye. Him lying about his life is not to do with his race. Being the youngest black professor at Cambridge was an amazing achievement. That he got there unfairly was not acceptable.

On 21 July 2026, Nathan Cofnas, published a blog post alleging that parts of Arday's 2015 PhD thesis were plagiarised. His post was titled "DEI Fraud and Cover-UP at Cambridge". He presented the story as evidence that Cambridge had lowered academic standards in order to promote racial diversity. His argument was explicitly connected to Arday's status as Cambridge's youngest Black professor. This is what kickstarted the wider journalistic investigation, by Times and Guardian, which then went beyond claims about plagiarism and looked at other discrepancies in his CV and other claims.
So, yes, JA was targeted by a well known racist academic, specifically because he was black.

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 16/08/2026 20:06

All the social media posts around arday that I saw were smart arsed comments below an article along the lines of Arday scoring the winning goal in 1966, but with two broken legs
Nowt to do with race, just the tall tales

It seems to be a couple of different issues merged into one

  1. academic fraud - but in fairness this is often a bit of a non event unless it’s your field , one of your students, or you’re a publisher who has to redact a load of articles (or it has a disproportionate impact on public health)
  2. racist tool cofnas proves that a stopped clock can be right twice a day, and that if you throw enough mud some of it sticks, which is deeply unhelpful to those coming up behind or in parallel to arday
  3. prestigious university appointed a professor of sociology for the optics not the output and it’s come back to bite them
  4. a possible confabulator of tall tales had some of the tales investigated ,( or steps taken towards investigation - and the outcome of this could be extremely detrimental to the style of living to which the possible confabulator had become accustomed)
  5. DEI terminology being bandied round left right and centre and a bit of “he can’t help it, he’s [insert characteristic here] “ which is just unjust and unhelpful
InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 16/08/2026 20:21

Although cofnas has been disproved about the allegations of plagiarism?

LIverpool John Moore did some checks recently ish and said it was fine and dandy though (though surely Turnitin was around in 2015? How did it not get picked up then?)

But looking into the pdh made other things be looked into and that is where it stopped being racism / racially motivated and became something else

CatesandAle · 16/08/2026 21:24

Glitterella · 16/08/2026 14:38

This over and over and over again…

Until the world wakes up to the fact that meritocracy is the only way for people to achieve power or stature or wealth or positions of leadership we will keep seeing more and more emperors…

We are all to blame for his death. Those who promoted him beyond his station as well as those who pointed out that the emperor had no clothes. Even posthumously he is not without blame for his own ending.

Whilst he may have ended his life because of the ‘hounding’ attention it is also likely that with a book being published he knew that more was about to be revealed that he wouldn’t be able to hide from.

Either way… Merit over everything always.

So do you support the abolition of private schools and a ban on parents passing money to their children? Because without those things we won’t have merit over everything always

Glitterella · 17/08/2026 05:35

CatesandAle · 16/08/2026 21:24

So do you support the abolition of private schools and a ban on parents passing money to their children? Because without those things we won’t have merit over everything always

I don’t support the abolishment of private schools. Parents can send their children to whatever school they can afford. However there are probably a lot of equally disturbing stories as JA which have their roots in nepotism and cronyism.

Perhaps my argument has flaws in it but I don’t think that anyone can reasonably argue that quite simply the most qualified individual should get the job is a better way than elevating people simply because of their identity.

It’s complicated and whilst JA was clearly a disturbed individual he was fodder for a system hell bent on identity politics above all else and he has paid the price for it all. The left and right are equally to blame here. The left for putting him up as a poster boy and the right for making sure he saw his downfall and then him of course for being in the centre of it.

Sunnibee · 17/08/2026 08:57

The more I look into this, the more concerned I am that there doesn't seem to be any established evidence that he actually did anything wrong??
Sounds like at most he was guilty of exaggerating some of his personal history/ personal achievements, including possibly on his CV??
It has in no way been established that he wasn't qualified for his job.
And people comparing this to academic fraud?? On what basis?