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To almost feel a shred of sympathy for Tommy Robinson

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lazyahzydaysofsummer · 02/08/2026 10:55

He did a debate against Oxford university students recently.

His entire argument was destroyed. Every single point. Even Jacob Rees Mogg had to comment on how stupid he was.

It’s exposed what he really is - an ignorant, uneducated man who is so gripped by fear caused by a misunderstanding of the world around him, and it’s almost made me feel sorry for him. People like him have been failed - by society, by the education system, and by the people around them.

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TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 17:37

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/08/2026 17:32

His world is Luton, the same Luton where five Muslim men were found guilty of yelling abuse at British soldiers and calling them rapists, murderers and baby killers during a homecoming parade.

Five Luton men found guilty after abusive chants at soldiers | Military | The Guardian

And if a vile man flags up facts, what facts stop being facts because they were voiced by a vile man?

Get a grip.

What do you mean Luton is his world? What is the point of this?

Do you think TR gives a shit about British soldiers?

Sartre · 02/08/2026 17:38

12345onceIcaughta · 02/08/2026 11:11

Why is he always so red faced?
Is it alcohol abuse or embarrassment?

Anger. His blood pressure must be sky high and it’s caused by self inflicted hatred. What a sad little existence the cretin has.

Sartre · 02/08/2026 17:38

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 17:37

What do you mean Luton is his world? What is the point of this?

Do you think TR gives a shit about British soldiers?

He also doesn’t give a fuck about gay men or women.

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 17:39

Sartre · 02/08/2026 17:38

He also doesn’t give a fuck about gay men or women.

Or straight women, for that matter.

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/08/2026 17:41

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 17:37

What do you mean Luton is his world? What is the point of this?

Do you think TR gives a shit about British soldiers?

I dislike him because he is a shill and a plant, but if a shill and a plant tells the truth, does the truth stop being the truth because it is uttered by a shill and a plant?

I don't know what he gives a shit about, I look at what he draws attention to.

P.S. Do you think British government gives a shit about British soldiers? Anyway, beside the point.

chocoluv · 02/08/2026 17:43

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/08/2026 17:32

His world is Luton, the same Luton where five Muslim men were found guilty of yelling abuse at British soldiers and calling them rapists, murderers and baby killers during a homecoming parade.

Five Luton men found guilty after abusive chants at soldiers | Military | The Guardian

And if a vile man flags up facts, what facts stop being facts because they were voiced by a vile man?

Get a grip.

What relevance is this?
There are multiple crimes that occur in Luton.

TR has multiple offences, so how can he judge other people who commit offences?

It’s people like TR that drags places like Luton down.

Perhaps if people like TR stopped committing crimes, then Luton wouldn’t be such a bad place.

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/08/2026 17:50

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/08/2026 17:32

His world is Luton, the same Luton where five Muslim men were found guilty of yelling abuse at British soldiers and calling them rapists, murderers and baby killers during a homecoming parade.

Five Luton men found guilty after abusive chants at soldiers | Military | The Guardian

And if a vile man flags up facts, what facts stop being facts because they were voiced by a vile man?

Get a grip.

I'm glad these men faced justice and were punished accordingly.

I don't know what that story has to do with Tommy Robinson though.Confused He was a violent, nasty thug and racist, years before 2010.

Pedallleur · 02/08/2026 17:51

lazyahzydaysofsummer · 02/08/2026 10:55

He did a debate against Oxford university students recently.

His entire argument was destroyed. Every single point. Even Jacob Rees Mogg had to comment on how stupid he was.

It’s exposed what he really is - an ignorant, uneducated man who is so gripped by fear caused by a misunderstanding of the world around him, and it’s almost made me feel sorry for him. People like him have been failed - by society, by the education system, and by the people around them.

And yet he travels by private jet paid for by ? He lives abroad and seemingly has no income yet when pulled over when driving a Bentley
https://news.sky.com/story/tommy-robinson-found-not-guilty-of-terror-offence-for-failing-to-give-police-access-to-his-phone-at-channel-tunnel-13463595
Of course he hates non white people but has had various run ins with the law and financial authorities. He knows what he is and what he is doing.

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 17:52

HollyhocksandPeons · 02/08/2026 17:41

I dislike him because he is a shill and a plant, but if a shill and a plant tells the truth, does the truth stop being the truth because it is uttered by a shill and a plant?

I don't know what he gives a shit about, I look at what he draws attention to.

P.S. Do you think British government gives a shit about British soldiers? Anyway, beside the point.

He is the last person I would look to for truths, especially facts about a minority.

Consider the source.

nomas · 02/08/2026 17:56

Shedmistress · 02/08/2026 16:25

So there IS an alternative law going on in these courts? Gosh. What a surprise.

Why cant Muslims use UK law to get a divorce?

Because many Muslims have both a civil ceremony and a religious ceremony.

So in the event of divorce, they need a civil divorce and a religious divorce.

If you say Muslims don’t need a religious divorce, you’re effectively saying Muslims shouldn’t have the right to practice their religion freely.

It’s funny how you only bring up Muslim courts and not the Sikh and Jewish courts which operate similarly.

likelysuspect · 02/08/2026 17:57

chocoluv · 02/08/2026 17:43

What relevance is this?
There are multiple crimes that occur in Luton.

TR has multiple offences, so how can he judge other people who commit offences?

It’s people like TR that drags places like Luton down.

Perhaps if people like TR stopped committing crimes, then Luton wouldn’t be such a bad place.

Its the mentality of criminality. That isnt meant to rhyme by the way

In prisons, you're given kudos of you assault other prisoners who are seen as 'lower' than you or the majority

So a thief could attack a murderer, a thief is better than a murderer. A murderer of an adult male is better than a murderer of a child. A murderer of a child is better than a child sex offender.

So he thinks he is in the right for hating on other criminals, whereas we all see them as just criminals.

Limecar · 02/08/2026 17:59

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 17:52

He is the last person I would look to for truths, especially facts about a minority.

Consider the source.

There are 2 billion muslims. They are not a minority in any sense of the word

nomas · 02/08/2026 18:00

Limecar · 02/08/2026 17:59

There are 2 billion muslims. They are not a minority in any sense of the word

They are a minority in the UK and subject to racism and Islamophobia.

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 18:01

Limecar · 02/08/2026 17:59

There are 2 billion muslims. They are not a minority in any sense of the word

Oh, stop it. You know I was referring to the UK.

Clavinova · 02/08/2026 18:10

Sarahsduck · 02/08/2026 16:10

Southall Black sisters statement Sharia marriages where they welcomed a recent court decision on a Nikkah being void. They also explain women are pushed by the government towards religious guidance when divorcing. - Extract from the link I posted above for those who don’t like clicking on links.

We welcome the recent High Court decision in Akhter v Khan [2018] EWFC 54 in the UK, to declare that a Muslim marriage contract (nikkah) was ‘void’, rather than a ‘non-marriage’. Shabaz Khan had refused to divorce Nasreen Akhter on the grounds that they did not have a valid marriage registered under English law. This had the effect of keeping Nasreen Akhter in marital captivity and denying her legal rights under English family law.
The outcome means that Nasreen Akthar is entitled to seek a decree of nullity, and hopefully, to obtain financial relief against Shabaz Khan. Even though the decision turned on the specific facts of the case, it is nevertheless significant for women trapped in unregistered marriages and should be examined for its relevance to marital captivity, forced and child marriage.
The judgment does not recognise ‘Sharia’ laws as some in the media have misleadingly stated. It deals with the knotty problem of women who believe that they are married but find that they have an unrecognised religious marriage only. This case shows that they can turn to the formal legal system. In fact, the judgement deals a blow to those who justify the sharia ‘courts’ as the only recourse for women who have not registered their marriages.
Our research shows that the power and control of religious fundamentalist networks over Muslims has grown enormously over the last thirty years. This has led to a widespread belief that a civil marriage is not necessary, that women must have a divorce certificate issued by a Sharia ‘court’ in an apparent judicial procedure; and that they must get this ‘certificate’ even if they already have a civil divorce.
While the judgement is a step in the right direction, the government urgently needs to examine its own complicity in keeping religious fundamentalists in business. Sharia ‘courts’, have been actively tolerated in Britain by being given charitable status and treated as partners by the police and local councils. While the government rejected the recommendation of the sharia review headed by Mona Siddiqui for regulation of the sharia councils; it has quietly ensured the continuing power of religious courts.
The application form for a divorce (Form D8) actively encourages women to turn to religious bodies. It states ‘If you entered into a religious marriage as well as a civil marriage, these divorce proceedings may not dissolve the religious part of your marriage. It is important that you contact the relevant religious authority and seek further guidance if you are unsure.’
If the government is serious about gender equality and ending violence against women, why is it undermining the validity of a civil divorce under English law? Why is it pushing women towards religious courts? For decades, the civil divorce has been the valid certificate demanded by courts abroad, regardless of whether there is also a religious marriage such as a Sikh, Hindu or Muslim ceremony. This guidance undermines women’s rights and the recognition of divorces awarded by British courts.
We call on the government to immediately withdraw this guidance from the divorce application form; to address the lack of access to justice brought about by cuts to legal aid; to overhaul outdated marriage and divorce laws and to take active measures to end religious courts and their control over women’s lives.
Gita Sahgal, Director, Centre for Secular Space
Pragna Patel, Director, Southall Black Sisters
Yasmin Rehman, Women’s Rights Campaigner
Maryam Namazie, Spokesperson, One Law for All
Afsana Lachaux, Women’s Rights Campaigner
Ahlam Akram, Founder, Basira
Amina Lone, Women’s Rights Campaigner
Diana Nammi, Executive Director, Iranian & Kurdish Women’s Rights Organisation
Gina Khan, Spokesperson, One Law for All
Peter Tatchell, Director, Peter Tatchell Foundation
Rahila Gupta, Writer
Rumana Hashem, Spokesperson, Community Women Against Abuse
Sadia Hameed, Spokesperson, Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain and Critical Sisters Director
Stephen Evans, Chief Executive Officer, National Secular Society

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[Southall Black Sisters] welcome the recent High Court decision in Akhter v Khan [2018] EWFC 54 in the UK, to declare that a Muslim marriage contract (nikkah) was ‘void’, rather than a ‘non-marriage'.

It would appear that the decision was reversed by the Court of Appeal;

Feb 2020
Appeal Court rules Islamic marriages invalid in UK.

The High Court ruled in 2018 that the couple's Islamic "nikah" ceremony fell within English marriage law.

But the Court of Appeal has now said it was an "invalid" non-legal ceremony.

Pragna Patel, director at Southall Black Sisters, a not-for-profit organisation, said: "Today's judgment will force Muslim and other women to turn to Sharia 'courts' that already cause significant harm to women and children for remedies because they are now locked out of the civil justice system."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51508974

Limecar · 02/08/2026 18:11

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 18:01

Oh, stop it. You know I was referring to the UK.

Makes absolutely no difference in a multi cultural multi ethnic society. Muslims are not a "minority".

Limecar · 02/08/2026 18:14

nomas · 02/08/2026 18:00

They are a minority in the UK and subject to racism and Islamophobia.

The UK has been rapidly converted to a global population with over 20 percent born in 195 countries. We can and should measure globally mobile populations by global metrics.

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 18:14

Limecar · 02/08/2026 18:11

Makes absolutely no difference in a multi cultural multi ethnic society. Muslims are not a "minority".

You are just making things up.

Muslims are a minority in the UK.

TicklishReader · 02/08/2026 18:15

Limecar · 02/08/2026 18:14

The UK has been rapidly converted to a global population with over 20 percent born in 195 countries. We can and should measure globally mobile populations by global metrics.

No, we shouldn't.

Shedmistress · 02/08/2026 18:15

nomas · 02/08/2026 17:56

Because many Muslims have both a civil ceremony and a religious ceremony.

So in the event of divorce, they need a civil divorce and a religious divorce.

If you say Muslims don’t need a religious divorce, you’re effectively saying Muslims shouldn’t have the right to practice their religion freely.

It’s funny how you only bring up Muslim courts and not the Sikh and Jewish courts which operate similarly.

There are loads of things I dont agree with and if on those threads id happily bring them up. This isnt about me.

Dexternight · 02/08/2026 18:17

@lazyahzydaysofsummer invite him around for Christmas.
Committed Christian that he is.

Theyreeatingthedogs · 02/08/2026 18:17

He's definitely uneducated. He's definitely thick. Feel sorry for him? No. Has society failed him? No. He's just a cunt.

Dexternight · 02/08/2026 18:20

Vile man with small man syndrome.
He belongs in the cesspit.
Society failed him?
My backside it did.

SeasideDaisy · 02/08/2026 18:22

Of all the people in the world that deserve sympathy he doesn’t come close to making it on my list.
He could use his smartphone to educate himself, instead he uses it to spread hate.. so yeah fuck him.

Clavinova · 02/08/2026 18:28

Council of Europe resolution here from 2019;

The body that oversees the European Convention on Human Rights has named the UK - along with Albania, Azerbaijan and Turkey - in a hard-hitting resolution highlighting conflicts between sharia law and universal human rights.

A measure adopted by the 47-nation Council of Europe raises concerns about the role of sharia councils in family, inheritance and commercial law.

Rulings of sharia councils 'clearly discriminate against women in divorce and inheritance cases', the resolution states. It calls on the UK to make it a legal requirement for Muslim couples to register their marriages civilly before or at the same time as their religious ceremony.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/uk-named-in-council-of-europe-sharia-warning/5068976.article

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