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AIBU to stop my six-year-old playing next door because of their dog?

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JustGiveMeTheNoodles · Today 09:48

I have a 6 year old son who is very friendly wotj the slightly older child next door. I think he is nearly 8.

Kid next door, let's call him Alan. Alams mum and dad split up a long time ago, id never known them to be together.

Recently (last 3 months) Alan's dad is back on the scene and has moved in with Alan and his mum. Alan's dad has brought is very large bull mastiff cross with him.

Alan keeps nagging my son to come to his garden to play on his trampoline (our top pole has snapped) and ive been making excuses.

I explained my concern discreetly to Alan's mum, that whilst shes said the dog is good, I couldn't relax with it being around my son, she is so huge. She understood and saod she would keep it inside if my son wanted to go over. After much nagging I allowed it whilst I sat in my garden.

I popped inside to get myself a drink and when I came back put, Alan's mum was outside with the dog "introducing her to my son". I asked my son to come back over as dinner was ready.

Alan's mum later messaged, saying the dog is fine (even though I overheard her say the dog was getting overwhelmed so would take her back in)

Anyway, here is my question. I am a bit of a helicopter mum apparently. I do worry about my son, he cries to go over Alan's house and im running out of excuses. Now, some might say I should just be honest but when he was younger he had a massive fear of dogs and we have worked hard to help him overcome this. So by me expressing worry about the dog, I worry it would set him back.

I do invite Alan over, to be honest he is over a lot and over for tea. But sometimes they wanna go over Alan's. It broke my heart seeing my son miss out going in Alan's pool yesterday but im so worried this dog could turn and attack him. Is this being over the top or am I right to be cautious? The dog is massive and I dont know its history

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MimiGC · Today 13:15

Tamtim · Today 10:10

The mother can’t be trusted if you’d made it clear you didn’t want your boy near the dog. She brought it out anyway.

This. Nothing more needs to be considered or said.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · Today 13:19

Nope. She couldn’t even keep her word about keeping the dog separate for one time!

worse then that she actively encouraged the dog to interact with your son. Sorry for your boy, and Alan (sounds like he is not in a great situation poor wee thing) but play dates next door are a no while a dangerous dog breed is there.

I say this as a dog lover and owner x

Shinyandnew1 · Today 13:22

Fix your trampoline and say they have to play at yours.

CoralFz · Today 13:26

Absolutely no chance would i let my son over there. You set a boundary about the dog and the mum broke it straight away. It simply isnt worth the risk, let then enjoy your home instead and thats that 🤷🏼‍♀️

Frequency · Today 13:28

As tempting as it is to keep your kids away from all dogs, it's not really practical in the long term. They grow into teens and adults and visit friends their parents haven't even met, never mind been able to vet what dogs they own.

You need to teach them how to behave around dogs, and you can only do that by allowing them near (supervised and under control) dogs.

In this instance, with the drip feed of Alan's mum being neglectful, I would say only allow DS to visit if OP goes with him, but going forward, with other dogs and less neglectful parents, a blanket ban will achieve the opposite of what you want.

If you don't teach your children how to behave around dogs, they will grow into adults who don't know how to behave around dogs, and run the risk of ending up in the situation that the BB "star" mentioned on here was in. I'm not entirely sure what she thought she was proving by posting the picture of the dog a few minutes before it snapped, but what she did prove was that the dog gave plenty of very clear warnings that it was unhappy with her being so near it. She then admits that she approached this clearly unhappy dog and inserted herself into its space.

The owner of the dog also needs to take accountability for letting her do it. The only one blameless in this incident is the poor dog.

fivepastmidnight · Today 13:28

I love dogs, my now adult son loves dogs he grew up around dogs but I would not have left him at somebody else's house with an unknown dog. It is better to be safe than sorry. Imagine something does happen, you would be devastated and blame yourself for not trusting your instincts.
Additionally Alan's mum has proven herself to be untrustworthy as you only agreed if she kept the dog out of the way and the minute your back was turned she's introduced the dog - that in itself would be enough to rule it out.
I would be semi honest with your son and say you prefer Alan at your house because you're not that comfortable with him going there when they've got a large dog that you don't know. If he asks if it is dangerous you can say no I just don't want you playing in the house where there's a large dog and this is Mummy's decision.
I'd tell the truth just in case Alan or his mum says anything to him.

PropertyD · Today 13:52

Shouldbeworkingnotreadingtalk · Today 10:08

I actually own two of these mastiff type dogs (cane Corso) and whilst I’d say they a “lovely” there’s not a chance I’d be letting my child go play at someone’s house who has them. Their bite is stronger (psi) than a lion. . You child will stand no chance. Please do not let your child go over there. (Especially in this heat as dogs are even more unpredictable.
(we have them as working protection dogs - which is what they are bred for. Not family pets.). … I adore mine. But I wouldn’t trust them with a non family member.

Blimey that are bloody handsome! You are very sensible though as they arent pets.

Shouldbeworkingnotreadingtalk · Today 16:33

sunnydayyzz · Today 13:00

That's all very nice, but a Cane Corso and an English Mastiff are known to have quite different temperaments. English mastiffs are laidback and easy going gentle giants and Cane Corso's are not. I wouldn't own a cane corso if you paid me, I think they should be banned, English Mastiffs and Italian mastiffs (Cane Corso's) are not the same.

Could you go round with your son as a compromise OP? That way you can get to know the dog too and see what you think.

I definitely think members of the general public should be vetted before being able to buy a cane Corso …and I also don’t understand why they aren’t banned. (Or at least have to be muzzled in public)

They are lethal.

That’s why we personally have them … I get quite a few death threats (to do with my job) and they are absolutely devoted to their families … and wouldn’t hesitate to attack if they thought their family member… In this case, (let’s say in this case “Alan” ) was under attack, trouble is a dog, (let’s say any dog, but particularly a cane Corso) can’t really tell that kids screaming, running, jumping on trampolines or hugging each other / playing football is tackling or being “attacked” and this won’t be a gentle nip from a spaniel. .

I have no experience of English Mastiffs, but if they are gentle giants they wouldn’t be any good for us 😊… but I guess we don’t even really know of the OP’s neighbour is sure what it is anyway. They do all look a bit similar. .

BringBackCatsEyes · Today 16:46

Balloonhearts · Today 10:00

I mean, I think its ridiculous to damage your child's friendships over a friendly dog who seems to be well supervised and you've seen the mum take her inside when she is getting overexcited. Just sounds nuts to me but we have dogs and the kids know how to behave with them.

Even though the Mum said "She understood and saod she would keep it inside if my son wanted to go over." and then didn't do that?
That shows a complete disregard for OP's wishes.

I'd like to live in a world where I didn't have to "learn to behave around dogs".

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