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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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NowSober · Today 13:27

Differentforgirls · Today 11:56

No people bringing trans people up on every thread is not only creepy but ill mannered to every other person posting.

No people bringing trans people up on every thread is not only creepy but ill mannered to every other person posting.

It''s not about "trans" it's about keeping men out of the Ladies. You may want men in the Ladies but you cannot give your consent on behalf of others.

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:27

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:14

Errr, well we all accept even best case Burnham is going to be very short lived, I suspect the lure of the post PM profits were too much to resist, and let’s face it he couldn’t even manage to become leader - despite trying twice, so this happy ‘accident’ was too good to pass.

This not an ‘accident’ at all.

The far left were itching to remove Starmer to install one of their own, so they can deploy a far left agenda that does not, and will never have the consent of the people. You have been warned.

We absolutely have been hijacked as a country, and it might take some time for it to dawn on many, but make no mistake this country is in real trouble.

Speaking as someone on the far left, Burnham is not 'one of ours'

Cailleach1 · Today 13:29

thefireinyourheart · Today 12:48

Her parents pay for the school.

‘My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.’

Did the op say that the parents wholly fund the schooling in a subsequent post, as ‘help’ is only stated in the opening op?

SuffolkSun · Today 13:29

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:14

Errr, well we all accept even best case Burnham is going to be very short lived, I suspect the lure of the post PM profits were too much to resist, and let’s face it he couldn’t even manage to become leader - despite trying twice, so this happy ‘accident’ was too good to pass.

This not an ‘accident’ at all.

The far left were itching to remove Starmer to install one of their own, so they can deploy a far left agenda that does not, and will never have the consent of the people. You have been warned.

We absolutely have been hijacked as a country, and it might take some time for it to dawn on many, but make no mistake this country is in real trouble.

You can only speak for yourself so there is no "we all accept Burnham is going to be very short-lived", even if you desperately hope he'll be short-lived.

Ditto with "far-left agenda". 'Anything I don't like' is not a synonym for 'far left'. 'What I want' is not a synonym for 'will of the people'.

Still, if it makes you happy to believe that millions of people in the country, including 24, 927 voters in Makerfield, are gullible dupes who've been deceived, and only you can see the truth, and we'll all be sorry...power on through, fill your boots. No one will stop you.

SometimesInTheFall2 · Today 13:30

Also love to see on this thread how people are completely brainwashed by billionnaire-owned media into thinking that anything vaguely to the left of Reform is communist, yet go on and on about alleged leftie propaganda in higher education.

Differentforgirls · Today 13:31

NowSober · Today 13:27

No people bringing trans people up on every thread is not only creepy but ill mannered to every other person posting.

It''s not about "trans" it's about keeping men out of the Ladies. You may want men in the Ladies but you cannot give your consent on behalf of others.

Yawn...

Cailleach1 · Today 13:33

‘My parents help. They can't pay the lot.’

@thefireinyourheart . No, the mistake wasn’t mine. Op subsequently posted this. The parents are in their 70’s, and are helping with costs as the situation with the SEN is so desperate.

LakieLady · Today 13:34

nearlylovemyusername · Today 11:45

it's numbers massaging - UK welfare bill is about 25% and includes pensions, so the graph doesn't compare apples with apples.

Welfare in Finland is universally accessible, unlike here when you lose childcare hours and many other benefits depends on your income
Welfare in Finland is time limited in terms of unemployment support
Finland taxes low and middle earners much more than UK

How does support for the sick and disabled in Finland compare? And is their healthcare better, so that people don't have to wait longer for treatment/surgery that will help them get back to work?

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:35

Interesting how no one wants to be associated with the far left, quite understandably, and yet here we are on the cusp of having one of Corbyn’s henchmen as PM, entirely unelected by anyone I might add.

It’s a pitiful state of affairs.

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:36

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:35

Interesting how no one wants to be associated with the far left, quite understandably, and yet here we are on the cusp of having one of Corbyn’s henchmen as PM, entirely unelected by anyone I might add.

It’s a pitiful state of affairs.

...didn't he literally just win an election?

SuffolkSun · Today 13:37

SometimesInTheFall2 · Today 13:19

Feeling sorry for all the posters here who think that Labour, Burnham and even Corbyn are die-hard communists - it must be very sad indeed to live in such fear of the tiniest bit of redistribution in such a wildly unequal country, where the Conservative party and its cronyism have tanked the economy and eroded the social fabric like that. This is pure Stockholm syndrome.

I read recently that analysis of a number of Reform-supporting posts on a social media site (possibly FB) showed that 90% were bots.

I suspect something similar here, though perhaps not to 90% - but certainly, phrases such as "Burnham is far-left" and "Marxist" raise a smile, and a question mark. Or perhaps it's just a reflection of educational standards.

Marmalademorning · Today 13:41

bigboykitty · Today 12:17

So you don't know what gaslighting is either.

Yes I do know what it means. You clearly don’t though 🙄

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:44

SuffolkSun · Today 13:37

I read recently that analysis of a number of Reform-supporting posts on a social media site (possibly FB) showed that 90% were bots.

I suspect something similar here, though perhaps not to 90% - but certainly, phrases such as "Burnham is far-left" and "Marxist" raise a smile, and a question mark. Or perhaps it's just a reflection of educational standards.

Oh and there it is.

Of course you have to be a bot unless you agree with this farcical lefty madness 😂😂
It never changes on here.

Could you not be a little more innovative with your insults? Go on give it a whirl!

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:44

Marmalademorning · Today 13:41

Yes I do know what it means. You clearly don’t though 🙄

Ha, good one. That told her

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:45

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:36

...didn't he literally just win an election?

Not a general election - no he did not!

He didn’t even win two Labour Party leadership contests!!!!!!

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:45

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:44

Oh and there it is.

Of course you have to be a bot unless you agree with this farcical lefty madness 😂😂
It never changes on here.

Could you not be a little more innovative with your insults? Go on give it a whirl!

They also suggested it's a reflection of educational standards, if that one suits better

thefireinyourheart · Today 13:46

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:35

Interesting how no one wants to be associated with the far left, quite understandably, and yet here we are on the cusp of having one of Corbyn’s henchmen as PM, entirely unelected by anyone I might add.

It’s a pitiful state of affairs.

He’s not far left. He’s barely left of centre.

He has just won an election.

We do not vote for prime ministers in this country. We vote for our local MP, knowing that if our MP’s party gets enough seats in parliament they will form a government, and the leader of that party with become PM. We never truly elect a prime minister, unless they happen to be running in your constituency.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:47

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:45

They also suggested it's a reflection of educational standards, if that one suits better

Is this really the best you can do?

Strawberry1975 · Today 13:47

My hope is really that he has a chancellor in place that can actually have a plan to improve our lives & quickly. That he can get a grip on the Energy policy & utility companies taking the P*.That a Border Control plan is harsh.
If he does'nt I don't think he will last long.

SuffolkSun · Today 13:47

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:45

They also suggested it's a reflection of educational standards, if that one suits better

😅

EasternStandard · Today 13:47

SuffolkSun · Today 13:37

I read recently that analysis of a number of Reform-supporting posts on a social media site (possibly FB) showed that 90% were bots.

I suspect something similar here, though perhaps not to 90% - but certainly, phrases such as "Burnham is far-left" and "Marxist" raise a smile, and a question mark. Or perhaps it's just a reflection of educational standards.

That doesn’t mean much given actual votes at local and regional elections ended up with Starmer being ousted.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 13:49

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:35

Interesting how no one wants to be associated with the far left, quite understandably, and yet here we are on the cusp of having one of Corbyn’s henchmen as PM, entirely unelected by anyone I might add.

It’s a pitiful state of affairs.

And what proportion of the previous conveyor belt of Tory prime ministers were unelected?

thefireinyourheart · Today 13:49

Strawberry1975 · Today 13:47

My hope is really that he has a chancellor in place that can actually have a plan to improve our lives & quickly. That he can get a grip on the Energy policy & utility companies taking the P*.That a Border Control plan is harsh.
If he does'nt I don't think he will last long.

Someone needs to be brave enough to nationalise water.

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:50

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:47

Is this really the best you can do?

I just think it's funny that you denied being a bot but didn't deny the other one

LakieLady · Today 13:51

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:27

Speaking as someone on the far left, Burnham is not 'one of ours'

This.

I swear some people would regard a reincarnated Harold Wilson as hard left, and as for that Clement Atlee, he'd be an outright Bolshevik.