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AIBU to not understand why I am facing disciplinary at work for such a non-issue?

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Scarlett9004 · Today 15:01

Hello,
My situation is this. I work in a UK company where all staff are trained to perform every role, yet in practice, particular individuals are consistently assigned only physically hard or only easy tasks-sometimes for many months in a row. I am usually given the harder ones and recently started feeling burned out by the daily grind, so a few days ago, I vented to one colleague, saying that this allocation is unfair given that we all receive the same wages, and mentioned several people who exclusively perform the easier tasks, including one Polish lady (let's call her Annie).

Yesterday, Annie’s husband (let's call him Tommy) approached me during the shift and shouted angrily, "Listen carefully! It's not your business why Annie never does physically demanding jobs. Stop gossiping about this or I will report you!" Offended by his tone, I retorted that I can speak whatever I like and that freedom of speech still exists. He turned bright red, walked away and reported me to the management. They launched an investigation, which I feel might lead to disciplinary action.

Aibu to not understand why the management are taking this so seriously? Can they really punish me even though I haven't been abusive or violent, but just complained about something that is bothering me? In Poland, Tommy would be told to bugger off with such rubbish-I know because I grew up in a neighbouring country! Also, I must note that Annie cannot be pregnant now as her duties, albeit quite light, are not pregnancy-friendly and all pregnant employees are always moved to office roles; this means she is provided with easy work purely due to favouritism.

OP posts:
Becausemymumtoldmeso · Today 16:48

Im presuming you possibly work in the care industry. As a manager in a similar sector, some of my team have undergone occupational health assessments and either have certain conditions or factors that dictate tasks that they cannot do or must try to avoid. The correct way for you to have tackled this would have been to either raise your concern with your line manager, or if it really is physically affecting you- then request for an occupational health review yourself!
You ‘venting’ to a colleague could possibly be viewed as a conduct issue- I’d be checking any policies your work have for conduct or behaviour to ensure you are ready for a discussion!

CandyflossKing · Today 16:49

If he approached you during your shift, I assume he also works there? If he approached you aggressively you should raise a counter grievance against him.

That said your colleague has obviously been telling others what you said so I would be careful about what you disclose to them in future.

Anonomoso · Today 16:55

RandomUsernameHere · Today 16:36

Report Tommy to the management, he shouldn’t have been aggressively shouting at you.

Agree..

We're you told what Tommy said in his complaint to management?

Did you get to tell them that yes you did have a moan but that wasn't reason for Tommy to come at you angrily shouting?

If not they should at least have got your version of events before a decision was made to take any action.

chirrupybird · Today 16:59

Screamingabdabz · Today 16:46

A male employee shouldn’t be shouting angrily at other employees, particularly women. That’s intimidating and unprofessional. I’d suggest to ‘management’ that your bit of workplace disgruntlement sinks into insignificance compared to misogyny and aggression.

Hardly misogyny if he is defending a woman the op abused. And when she said I can say whatever I like (about your wife), he was probably furious but just walked away and reported her quite rightly.

Viviennemary · Today 17:03

I think you should look for a new job. It's a bit pathetic Annie's husband had a go at you and reported you. Take out a grievance against him. And it is unfair if you're always given harder jobs.

5128gap · Today 17:07

You're facing disciplinary action because slagging off management to your colleagues, naming other colleagues as benefitting from management bias is bad for morale, and contributes to a toxic working environment, pitting staff against each other when you're expected to be a team.
If you've a problem with management decisions, surely you know that the way to deal with that is to raise with the manager, not get into a barney with a colleague because you've been gossiping about his wife?

Soontobe60 · Today 17:50

Topseyt123 · Today 16:27

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to insult and shout at your colleagues.

You have no idea what medical issues Annie may have that might have her on lighter duties and you have no right to that private and confidential information.

Frankly, if you think that pregnancy is the only condition that could have a woman on "lighter duties" then you really don't have much imagination at all. There are plenty of others, and they might not always be visible. In fact, the majority probably aren't.

You were very silly to speak as you did, and even more silly to mouth off at Tommy about freedom of speech giving you licence to do and say whatever you liked.

Perhaps the best thing you could do now would be to apologise sincerely to Annie and Tommy for your atrocious behaviour. Via HR too.

If you are unhappy in your role and feel that you are approaching burnout then that is a totally separate issue, and one you should have raised with your manager on your own with no reference to Annie or to anyone else's nationality. You still could, though the way you have behaved doesn't really show you up in the best light I'm afraid.

Luckily the OP didn’t insult and shout at her colleagues! She was the one being shouted at. Did you actually read her posts? If so, you must be hard of comprehension.

Soontobe60 · Today 17:55

Hatty65 · Today 16:36

In Poland, Tommy would be told to bugger off with such rubbish-I know because I grew up in a neighbouring country!

That probably explains why you seem to think 'freedom of speech' exists in England. It doesn't. There is no legal right to freedom of speech and there are actually stringent laws about what you can and can't say about others.

You are facing a disciplinary for making comments about co workers that are not your place to make.

Article 10 of the Human Rights Act allows for ‘freedom of expression’ which in effect is freedom of speech.
Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers

Soontobe60 · Today 17:58

chirrupybird · Today 16:59

Hardly misogyny if he is defending a woman the op abused. And when she said I can say whatever I like (about your wife), he was probably furious but just walked away and reported her quite rightly.

Good grief! The op mentioned ‘annie’ along with other colleagues when discussing the unfairness of some colleagues seemingly having a more cushy job than others. If you think that constitutes ‘abuse’ then you’re clearly not very resilient. It was a private conversation that she’s entitled to have which her colleague then went spreading round the workplace.

Morechocmorechoc · Today 19:27

chirrupybird · Today 15:49

Anyone can talk to anyone, freedom of speech and all that. Talking about a colleague negatively to other colleagues is not on, if you have a problem with someone at work go to management don't gossip and spread rumours.

I was questioning why the husband was at the place of work...thats not normal. Freedom of speech doesnt mean shouting at someone.

Glad to know you are perfect and never gossiped about anyone...good for you.

thesilliestgoose · Today 19:30

the fact that you’re being investigated and still didn’t click that singling her out for being polish when you were tying this absolute tripe out says you’re the arsehole.

somanychristmaslights · Today 19:31

Sounds like you aren’t going to get anywhere in that company so I would look for a new job.

Jackiepumpkinhead · Today 19:36

Ensure you make a complaint against Tommy.

PenelopeJoanSterling · Today 19:42

who leaked it to Tommy ? @Scarlett9004 but personally with other collegues everyone is their own plan with management

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