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To think these theatre prices are outrageous?

226 replies

takeharry · Today 14:24

Currently looking at HAMILTON tickets, now I understand they have a ‘star’ casting in Leslie Odom Jr, original broadway cast but FIVE HUNDRED fucking pounds? For one ticket?

There are a few £250/£275 tickets left but the vast majority left are £500.

AIBU to think there should be some sort of regulatory body to prevent this kind of bullshit pricing?

£1k for a couple to have an evening at the theatre Biscuit

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Jjhtgh · Today 15:58

takeharry · Today 15:47

Some people love to stick the boot in for no reason. I bet none of them would pay it either though!

I don't love the theatre, that much. But as a one off, I'd do it to perhaps see a cricket world cup final (and a good seat) or to be front row at a concert of someone really popular.

ShanghaiDiva · Today 15:59

Jjhtgh · Today 15:51

OP bought tickets before they were £500, she can go enjoy the show. She seems £500 and asks "damn that's a lot". We explain why it's priced that way, the fact these are closer to the show time, supply and demand because there's a big star there and she's just like "oh it's ridiculous". Again, there are going to be people willing to pay this price, to them it's not ridiculous, it's a expensive but worthwhile purchase.

She knows why.
it’s a discussion on the price point. Is £500 too high, would people pay £750, what’s your personal ceiling for a ticket …etc etc
as you are keen on recommending courses, may I suggest one that covers reading comprehension?

OonaStubbs · Today 16:02

The problem is that people are willing to pay those prices for tickets. Some people have more money than sense. I would not pay £500 for a theatre ticket even if I won the lottery, even Euromillions £100 million jackpot. It's just obscene.

OonaStubbs · Today 16:03

Jjhtgh · Today 15:58

I don't love the theatre, that much. But as a one off, I'd do it to perhaps see a cricket world cup final (and a good seat) or to be front row at a concert of someone really popular.

A sports event is different because it only happens once. The same theatre performance is reported many times over.

OonaStubbs · Today 16:03

*repeated many times over.

istherereallytimeforallthat · Today 16:06

Tryingtokeepgoing · Today 15:31

OK, well, it costs around £10 million in upfront costs to put on a big show. It costs around £1 million a week to run it, pay the staff, the royalties and the theartres share fo teh box office. Capacity of the Victoria Palace Theatre is around 1,500 people I think. Some days are more easy to sell than others. What would you charge for a ticket?

6 evening performances then, but how many matinees are there - 4? So ten performances a week x 1,500 (assuming full capacity) is 15,000 bums on seats.

Running costs of £1 million divided by 15,000 is £66.66 per seat just to break even, plus 20% VAT = £79.99.

In other words, you have to sell each seat for £80 just to cover your weekly outgoings without making any inroads into recovering the £10 million you already spent in production costs. Divide the £10m by the number of seats available in the entire run and add that to each ticket price, also adding VAT as well.

That's your costs covered. Now, for all that effort, how much proft will the business owners expect to make for their investment in that production? Well, Corporation Tax on profits is 25% so whatever you add on, a quarter of it goes to the taxman, so you have to allow for that as well.

It is easy to see how bog-standard tickets on a normal day would be about £120.

FruAashild · Today 16:06

So glad I live in an unfashionable area so went to see Hamilton last year when it was touring and paid ~£100 each for good seats. But I don't really care about seeing the big names.

That said, I don't think it's any different to paying a fortune to see Taylor Swift or Oasis or Scotland in the WC for the first time in 28 years or or any other major cultural event. Some people will pay a lot for luxury items because they have the money and they value that.

Jjhtgh · Today 16:07

OonaStubbs · Today 15:56

Theatre tickets are ridiculous for what is just people prancing about on stage, pretending to be someone they are not.

Like acting and singing isn't a skill the performers have honed for years?

anniegun · Today 16:08

Love that the OP wants the government to set ticket prices for shows she wants to see

Jjhtgh · Today 16:09

takeharry · Today 15:54

Again.

I did not need you to repeatedly tell me why. I know why.

Again

You've still got your knickers in a twist about it.

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 16:09

Here we go again.

People not understanding businesses aren’t charities and their main priority isn’t you, the consumer, it’s profit. Also, huge overheads.

See a show in the provinces or stay at home - problem solved.

anniegun · Today 16:10

Harry Styles tickets were similar prices

VodkaAndSoda · Today 16:10

It wouldn’t be worth it for me for that particular production, but if it’s only a few tickets then I don’t really see the problem. Theatre does need to make money if it’s going to continue, and I’d prefer it to be going to the original sellers rather than to touts / scalpers.

Lomonald · Today 16:12

iogo · Today 15:48

I think the OP is getting a bit of a hard time here.

I'll be in the UK during August and looked into getting Hamilton tickets, and that's when I actually saw LO Jr was going to be performing, and thus tickets weren't on sale for any of the dates I could go yet. I tried the day they went on sale for Leslie Odom Jr, but wasn't able to get tickets as they were showing as sold out on the website (due to work, I wasn't able to be sitting waiting so it was about 4 hours after they went on sale).

I looked the other week just in case there were resale tickets etc, and was also stunned at the £500 price tag on all remaining tickets.

It's all well and good (and true) saying "it's business, supply and demand, you just can't go etc etc", but that price is galling, prohibitive (I'm guestimating but probably close) to over half the population, and I'm not a poor earner (a head teacher in the country I live in. £500 works out to be 75% of a week's wages for me. I just can't justify spending over 2 weeks' wages for myself, my husband and our son to go. So we're not.

IMO the OP is correct in that £500 for a theatre ticket is outrageous.

I don't think they are resell tickets for LOJ i haven't got my mobile tickets yet, I think they are trying to avoid resale.

MandemChickenShop · Today 16:12

save your money, it's shit anyway

clary · Today 16:14

I agree it is a lot for a night at the theatre. But yunno, as others say, you don't need to go and also clearly ppl are happy to pay that.

Maybe think if it this way - selling really good seats at £500 to people who can afford that means the theatre can sell some seats a lot cheaper to ppl like you who were quicker off the mark and didn't mind a less good seat?

I am always after a bargain myself and gladly book a restricted view if I can discover it's not that bad. But a friend always wants front row of the dress circle. She paid £300 a pop for Frozen tickets IIRC.

Otoh I paid ££££ for Paris Olympic tickets to watch Keely's 800m win. It was unforgettable and for me, worth the ££. For others not so much i guess.

takeharry · Today 16:16

Jjhtgh · Today 16:09

Again

You've still got your knickers in a twist about it.

If you mean having a discussion, then sure, my knickers are twisted.

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takeharry · Today 16:18

anniegun · Today 16:08

Love that the OP wants the government to set ticket prices for shows she wants to see

Haha yes to be fair that was a stupid comment Blush

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Jjhtgh · Today 16:18

If I was selling let's say 10 bikes.

If I could sell them each for £100 I'd make £1,000.

If I could sell them each for £200 I'd make £2,000.

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 16:20

I wonder how much people think Leslie Odom Jr should be paid during this stint? This isn’t your B or C lister performing - he is a multi award winning actor / star. Ticket prices for his run were always going to be big.

takeharry · Today 16:21

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 16:09

Here we go again.

People not understanding businesses aren’t charities and their main priority isn’t you, the consumer, it’s profit. Also, huge overheads.

See a show in the provinces or stay at home - problem solved.

I definitely understand that business are not charities but equally I understand that business isn’t reliant on £500 tickets to break even. It’s a huge money maker already.

The provinces?

OP posts:
takeharry · Today 16:22

Jjhtgh · Today 16:18

If I was selling let's say 10 bikes.

If I could sell them each for £100 I'd make £1,000.

If I could sell them each for £200 I'd make £2,000.

Gosh, that’s utterly amazing. Thank you so much for this wise and not at all patronising post after all the other posts you have made. It’s really opened my eyes. Of course I now think £500 is a reasonable price. Well done, you did it!! Yay!!

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Jjhtgh · Today 16:23

takeharry · Today 15:31

Im not having a handled time understanding, I have reiterated many times that I understand why the tickets are £500. The point of my thread was I think it’s a fucking ridiculous price for a seat at the theatre, regardless of why it happens.

Let me calm down a bit.

Why do you think it's ridiculous for a theatre ticket for Hamilton to be £500?

Can I see it for your perspective, why is a ticket show with a premier cast that is bought late ridiculous to have costed people £500?

takeharry · Today 16:23

fundamentallyauthentic · Today 16:20

I wonder how much people think Leslie Odom Jr should be paid during this stint? This isn’t your B or C lister performing - he is a multi award winning actor / star. Ticket prices for his run were always going to be big.

I have no idea how much any of the actors should be paid, but I don’t think the whole of the added cost to tickets will be going to LOJ anyway.

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Viviennemary · Today 16:24

They can charge what they like but I won't be going. As long as folk are prepared to pay these mad prices they won't come down.

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