AIBU to refuse a Year 9 staying up for the 1am match?

[BlackTulipss]

Is this unreasonable?
Apparently "every other mum" is letting their school year 9 kid watch the 1am match tonight and phone in sick to school tomorrow morning then go in at lunch.
I've said no to staying up to watch it. Starts at 1am, it will go on till 3:30am, or later if extra time!
DS has to get up at 6:30 for school.
DH says let him, keeps going on about once every 4 years experience, it's only 1 night, etc. And he says it will be the final England match - they'll be knocked out by Mexico tonight so there will be no other England games to watch after tonight.
DS badly needs his sleep and at 14 he still needs a solid 11 hours to function.
Is anyone else letting their DC watch it live tonight?
AIBU?

He’d be better off getting up early to watch it on catchup and fast forwarding through half time. He won’t miss out but will get a decent sleep first.

2014 was in Brazil, so they're a few hours behind us but not as far. The last time the men's world cup was at such unsocial hours for us before this was 1994, when England weren't in it. Irish posters might have some anecdotes!

I hear you OP, although the ND aspect would have been useful relevant in your first post, if lack of sleep exaccerbates it in some way. DS is yr10. I've told him that he can watch it if he wants to but he's going to school on Monday, its up to him to figure out how he manages it - either sleeping early then setting his alarm for 1am, or maybe catching up sleep when he gets home from school. Strange how little sleep most children can cope with if it means doing something that they want to. Understand that this is probably different for an ND child.

I think the point the PP was making is that the tournament itself isn't a one-off. It's not like it's the only opportunity he will ever get in his lifetime to see England play in the world cup. It's not even the final.

Honestly, people are carrying on like this is the moon landing. I think he should watch it, myself, and take the consequences of a sleepy day, he's old enough to make that decision and experience the effects of a late night.

But seriously, I find the weight put on this, as though there will never be another World cup ever, and children would be missing some crucial moment in their lifetime a bit baffling.

I would definitely let him if he wants to do it. It's one night. He'll be tired but so what? It's nearly the end of term anyway. When I was just a couple of years older I had a part time Saturday job that started at 7am and I would sometimes go to it without any sleep at all and survived!

I'd let him watch it but he'd be getting up for school at the normal time. Tell him to go to bed at 6, sleep until 2am, watch the match, then go back to sleep until 6am. Does he HAVE to get up at 6 for school? Can you shave down the morning routine at all to give him an extra hours sleep? Breakfast on the go? Drive him in as a one off?

I would also add literally the last week of school they aren’t doing anything anyway! Loads of schools by me have said keep the result secret and we are going to show the kids the game. We are massive footie fans in our house and there is no way we won’t be watching this game live!! Well my 5 year old will probably stay asleep but if he wants to get up he can.

I’d let him get up at 5 and watch then on catch up before school, it’s what we are doing (actually later because I’m planning on using the fast forward button for ads and boring bit!)

Yabvu, he's 14, this could be his country's last match in the world cup. Fgs unclench and let him enjoy it.

That’s so lame 🤣🤣🤣

If she was, that's a bad point because the people who were saying it's a one off didn't define it so specifically.

It's also a bad point because even for a team like England who routinely make knock out stages, you only get a limited number of these events as a child and teen. This is also likely to be the last one where his mother's in charge of his bedtime. There's absolutely a risk he's going to have a longer term memory of his dad being fine with it but his mother not letting him. No getting round the fact that for some people, these shared experiences in their youth are important to them.

Your 14yo needs 11h sleep? Have you talked to his doctor about this?

I was apparently on a boat trip that day. My mother hated football and my dad had just had an eye operation.

England will be there in 2030, no doubt in 2034, when matches are nearer to UK daytime.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sooooo funny
Nothing if not predictable 😂

Bed at 8.30pm Sunday night, asleep for 9pm.
Alarm set for 12.50am.
That's nearly four hours sleep
Watch the match.
Back to bed for a brief nap.
Up at normal time
That's another hour or two sleep depending on extra time etc.

Grit his teeth and practice that resilience by getting through the next day on slightly suboptimal sleep. Useful life skill

He’s 14. Let him watch it but with the stipulation that he still has to go to school tired or not.

I need 10 hours sleep a night, always have done I don't think that's weird.

OP, most of the adults I know are getting up at 5am, not checking their phone and watching it then. Because otherwise it will take them all week to recover.

It isn't a final. They've got little chance of winning, why ruin the week? It doesn't matter if you watch it at 1am or 5am.

That maybe so but 11 is a bit excessive and even if that's the case at 14 one night of not complying with the guidelines won't be harmful. I have older teens, I didn't micro manage their sleep pattern at 14 and there has been no detrimental impact. My eldest can't wait for the 1 am pub with friends, he's glad it was reversed!

But if you are a genuine fan of football I'm afraid that is irrelevant.

Controlling and unreasonable 😂😂😂

Its called parenting.

Btw I think he should get to watch the match, but I’m not his parent, so she gets to decide that.

It’s one night of less sleep. Bed 9-1. Watch match. Bed 4-630. Early to bed Monday night

edit to add school normal time but hopefully people worked that out with 630am get up

It's very long. He's missing out on life. Don't teens need to know how to cope on little sleep, especially if they go to uni!

You need stamina when you are young so you have the mental strength to cope with life's challenges.

Let him stay up to watch it but the rules are he will still need to go to school!

He will be able to function on little sleep, it won’t kill him. I’m sure you’ve had to disrupt sleep routine during holiday travel etc and I’m sure he survived!