AIBU to think Blue Badge holders can use parent and child spaces?

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This article says that Blue Badge holders can't park in P&C spaces but I thought they could and that they were a legal requirement whereas P&C was a courtesy? Have I been wrong all these years? Can Blue Badge holders park in parent and child spaces? | Oxford Mail

Unless they’re trawling CCTV footage to catch people out !!

The point is the fines on private property work in the exact same way as the fines for BB bays.
Private parking regularly employ wardens to police the parking.

As a wheelchair user, the same applies to trying to mobilise around a car park where you are below the height of moving vehicles and not easily visible to drivers reversing. Yet we have two supermarkets in our local area who have P&C spaces much nearer the door than the BB ones. In one of them, the BB holders actually have to cross the car park to get to the door.

Some private buisnesses do issue permits for their P&C spaces. No permit, you cant park there.

For example...
https://meadowhall.co.uk/news/parent-child-parking-permit

There's a small shopping centre near me where standard bays are closer to the door than BB spaces

I have had a definitive reply from my council re their car parks. I can use my BB in the PandC bays, and the parking will be free, just as it is in any other bay.

Imagine the PR nightmare if a BB holder was fined for parking in a P&C bay 😂

I always park in P&C bays when I have my mum with me who doesnt qualify for a BB dispite being as mobile as a slug. The extra space is a god send as she needs the door fully open so I can help her in and out, she'd never leave the house otherwise and looks forward to her little shopping trips 😊 that take about 2 hours

Fair enough.

Well, I do get PIP and have a blue badge so I really am living the dream, still work full-time but you can't have everything I suppose. I was also born into all this unimaginable privilege, without eyeballs to be exact, so I got lucky from the outset. If you want to enjoy this kind of luxury for yourself then I am afraid you will have to gouge your own eyes out, probably easier than amputating your own legs so may be a more workable solution to your terrible predicament of being tragically non-disabled. Still, as you quite rightly say, life-long blindness will be a small price to pay for a new car you won't be able to drive since you now can't see. Best of luck with your home surgery.

But you said you can use a BB bay or a P&C bay?

So you're sorted.

No, they don’t. Private parking charge notices are legally quite different to council penalty charge notices. The latter is a statutory fine that can escalate to court orders, bailiffs etc.

Private PCNs are basically an invoice & much harder to enforce. Many car parks (eg Sainsbury’s, Tesco) use ANPR on entry/exit and don’t have car parks attendants physically checking blue badges, so people feel emboldened to try it on.

Well at least we know you won’t be parking in the Parent and Child spaces then!

Joshing aside, I’m sorry if I have annoyed you. There are lots of people, like yourself who are in genuine need of spaces and PIP etc.

My issue is those who don’t work when perhaps they could, who are reliant on the state and have an attitude that it’s all owed to them somehow.

As a mum with three young babies, whilst on maternity leave - I needed those parent and child spaces desperately.

Getting two toddlers and a newborn safely into the supermarket was difficult to say the least.

These spaces aren’t protected legally in the same way that BB spaces are.

So rather than begrudging parents with young children, maybe these posters should show some empathy.

Or not. As I’ve tried to show, it can work both ways.

Hilarious that you are talking about empathy given the complete lack of empathy you have shown towards people with blue badges 😂 Are you trying to be ironic. Most of us do have an idea about what it is like to have children but unlike you those of us with blue badges also know what it is like to be disabled. Having a blue badge is nothing to do with being unemployed either so I am not sure why you keep going on about that.

When I had small dc I would have quite happily have given up a P&C space for a disabled person if all the disabled spaces were full.

A person with kids can use an ordinary space elsewhere in the car park (however inconvenient that might be), but a disabled person physically can't. Surely people would agree that the disabled have a greater need for accessible parking than anyone else.

As I said previously, I am also the mother of a toddler. Blue badge holders and parents are not two mutually exclusive groups and there does not need to be enmity between them, their rights should not be in competition.
If I am in a car with my husband and our baby we can use either a blue badge space or parent and child one, whichever is free or more convenient because I fit into both categories and because, in both cases, we need the extra space to make it easier for me to get out of the car and to get our little one out of her car seat. Thus I benefit from a larger space as a parent and a disabled person, for the same reason, more room.

Whilst I would never in a month of Sundays park in a disabled bay

I just don’t feel that way about parent places and never begrudged anyone parking in them without kids when I had 2 under 2.

and now…. Well if the only space available is a parent spot… then yep, I’d probably swing in with my 16 and 14 year old!

Nah, anyone can/does. Fuck the struggling mammy with a baby in a car seat that needs to get the pushchair out the boot then wrestle the toddler out. Then come back with her shopping to pack away in car.
Anyone can park there 😄

@limeebergomotti Do you seriously think you could pretend to be so physically disabled that you could get the higher rate if pip mobility?😂 You have to provide medical evidence. it is true that the majority of blue badge holders don't work but that is because about 70 percent are OAPs. While I have a blue badge I don't get pip or any other benefit. You presumably get maternity benefits, child benefit etc.

Well you sound like a complete arsehole!!

Virtue signalling for the BB group yet showing no care for parents with young children.

I hope you find your wheelchair soon

Oh dear.

Who are "you guys"? So you are not receiving or have not received statutory maternity pay while on maternity leave? Do you actually live in the UK? My guess is you don't given your ignorance of how things work here.

I get the brand new car, but no Blue Badge. I also get regular payments into my bank account. £458.40 to be precise. I’m not sure why you think that means I have no need to work but I usually find this attitude comes from ignorance so I guess you could, you know, learn before spouting shite?