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AIBU to think Blue Badge holders can use parent and child spaces?

210 replies

winterwonder1 · 30/06/2026 16:29

This article says that Blue Badge holders can't park in P&C spaces but I thought they could and that they were a legal requirement whereas P&C was a courtesy? Have I been wrong all these years? Can Blue Badge holders park in parent and child spaces? | Oxford Mail

Blue Badge parking warning for parent and child spaces as fines issued

Blue Badge holders have been fined for parking in some parent and child bays, in one of the most misunderstood rules in UK car parks

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/national/uk-today/26241069.can-blue-badge-holders-park-parent-child-spaces/

OP posts:
Instructions · 30/06/2026 17:32

I assumed they could too? Just as on buses wheelchair users rightly take precedence over people with prams and buggies I would expect that when it comes to parking people with blue badges take precedence over people who have a small child with them. How odd that they don't.

I wonder why people seem to see parent and child bays as so necessary now, they really weren't a thing when I was younger. Is it due to the rise in excessively large cars that mean everyone has less space?

Fitbodyproblem · 30/06/2026 17:33

Legally a private car parking company could invoice (not legally fine) a disabled driver for parking in a P+C space when the blue badge spaces are full. Ethically - what the fuck? If you've got a disabled person in a car who needs extra space, say to move into a wheelchair, have a mobility scooter assembled, or hobble out on crutches or a walker - would anyone in their right mind begrudge or penalise that?

I can't believe that there are parents who are so lacking in common human decency that they'd consider themselves and their kids take priority over that situation and should have the space.
Wait until you're knocking on and getting feeble...

Wheelsoffiah · 30/06/2026 17:35

I was always led to believe that in any space that's designated to the provision of parking, there is a legal requirement to provide dedicated blue badge parking bays. Whereas the parent and child spaces, albeit a 'nice to have' are just that. They aren't subject to a legal requirement. All of the supermarkets Iocal to me that I use (as a wheelchair user), would actively encourage a BB holder to use a P&C bay if there are no BB spaces remaining.

Any private land owner can pretty much impose any parking conditions or stipulations he wishes, with the exception of the provision of BB spaces - they are a legal requirement and must be present. Hence, an unauthorised user can, in theory, be prosecuted for parking in one.

As to whether a BB holder could be penalised or ticketed for parking in a P&C space, well, in a privately owned and privately managed car park, then technically yes. However, I don't think any court in the country would side with the management company or landowner if provided with photographic evidence that a P&C space was the only usable space left for a wheelchair user.

There have been occasions when I have used a P&C space because one was available while all the BB spaces were full. But you do have to be prepared for the backlash that can result. Below is my most memorable confrontation - I was left genuinely speechless after this, and for a good many months after, I refrained from using P&C spaces, as I really did start to believe I had been very wrong.

I'd be interested to hear the views of mothers with babies in car seats and with prams:

I returned to my car one day after a short trip in my local Aldi, having had to park in a P&C space, to find a mum with her small baby standing by my car door. I asked her if she could just move along a bit so that I could open my car door wide enough to transfer into the driving seat. That's when all hell let loose. The woman had obviously been stewing the entire time I was in the store, as she accused me of so many things; being selfish, ignorant and entitled are the three that stuck in my mind. She said that she was sick to death of people waving their blue badges around, as if they gave them some kind of superpower that made them untouchable, and why my wheels were more important than her child's.. She then asked me if I had children, and when I said no, she laughed and said that would explain why I couldn't see the inconvenience I was causing and why I was oblivious to the potential danger I was putting her child in. She offered to let me watch her try and get her baby out of the car and her pram out of the boot whist parked in a normal space. I said I would do so by all means, but only if she sat in my wheelchair first, then transferred herself across into the car without using her legs, then folded up the wheelchair and hauled it across her shoulder to store it behind the passenger seat.

All this time, although she was quite forceful in her words, she didn't swear or raise her voice much. I think this is why I talked myself into believing I was the one being unreasonable. It took many lectures from friends and family, and many months before I was ever brave enough to use a P&C space again. Even now, it's only ever a last resort. I will drive round and round a car park to wait for a BB space rather than go through that again!

BiteSizedLife · 30/06/2026 17:35

No one CHOOSES to be disabled. Given the choice they'd rather not need to use any special space at all!!

Parents choose to be parents, though.

I appreciate the need for both groups to have access to such space but I know which one is right to prioritise.

BiteSizedLife · 30/06/2026 17:38

Wheelsoffiah · 30/06/2026 17:35

I was always led to believe that in any space that's designated to the provision of parking, there is a legal requirement to provide dedicated blue badge parking bays. Whereas the parent and child spaces, albeit a 'nice to have' are just that. They aren't subject to a legal requirement. All of the supermarkets Iocal to me that I use (as a wheelchair user), would actively encourage a BB holder to use a P&C bay if there are no BB spaces remaining.

Any private land owner can pretty much impose any parking conditions or stipulations he wishes, with the exception of the provision of BB spaces - they are a legal requirement and must be present. Hence, an unauthorised user can, in theory, be prosecuted for parking in one.

As to whether a BB holder could be penalised or ticketed for parking in a P&C space, well, in a privately owned and privately managed car park, then technically yes. However, I don't think any court in the country would side with the management company or landowner if provided with photographic evidence that a P&C space was the only usable space left for a wheelchair user.

There have been occasions when I have used a P&C space because one was available while all the BB spaces were full. But you do have to be prepared for the backlash that can result. Below is my most memorable confrontation - I was left genuinely speechless after this, and for a good many months after, I refrained from using P&C spaces, as I really did start to believe I had been very wrong.

I'd be interested to hear the views of mothers with babies in car seats and with prams:

I returned to my car one day after a short trip in my local Aldi, having had to park in a P&C space, to find a mum with her small baby standing by my car door. I asked her if she could just move along a bit so that I could open my car door wide enough to transfer into the driving seat. That's when all hell let loose. The woman had obviously been stewing the entire time I was in the store, as she accused me of so many things; being selfish, ignorant and entitled are the three that stuck in my mind. She said that she was sick to death of people waving their blue badges around, as if they gave them some kind of superpower that made them untouchable, and why my wheels were more important than her child's.. She then asked me if I had children, and when I said no, she laughed and said that would explain why I couldn't see the inconvenience I was causing and why I was oblivious to the potential danger I was putting her child in. She offered to let me watch her try and get her baby out of the car and her pram out of the boot whist parked in a normal space. I said I would do so by all means, but only if she sat in my wheelchair first, then transferred herself across into the car without using her legs, then folded up the wheelchair and hauled it across her shoulder to store it behind the passenger seat.

All this time, although she was quite forceful in her words, she didn't swear or raise her voice much. I think this is why I talked myself into believing I was the one being unreasonable. It took many lectures from friends and family, and many months before I was ever brave enough to use a P&C space again. Even now, it's only ever a last resort. I will drive round and round a car park to wait for a BB space rather than go through that again!

She was a cow. End of. How nasty of her.

I'm sorry that happened to you xxx

Hasty response but this story made me so so bloody angry

AnonyMumAuDHD · 30/06/2026 17:40

TigerRag · 30/06/2026 17:29

Where are these mythical loads of disabled spaces? We usually find there's plenty of free parent and child spaces but not disabled spaces

All the supermarkets and council operated one’s near me have plenty. Rows and rows of them. I’ve never had an issue finding a disabled parking spot since we’ve had an Blue Badge, but regularly struggled to find a P&C one when they were small due to pratts in white vans and unaccompanied women in range rovers wanting wide parking spaces.

Clearly depends on where you live.

Honeyhonayboo · 30/06/2026 17:41

Instructions · 30/06/2026 17:32

I assumed they could too? Just as on buses wheelchair users rightly take precedence over people with prams and buggies I would expect that when it comes to parking people with blue badges take precedence over people who have a small child with them. How odd that they don't.

I wonder why people seem to see parent and child bays as so necessary now, they really weren't a thing when I was younger. Is it due to the rise in excessively large cars that mean everyone has less space?

It’s a combination of everything and not really a useful comparison, when there were no P&C spaces cars were smaller, car seat designs were different, the advice to rear face children wasn’t there, less people had cars so car parks weren’t as full.
Despite what people suggest there was clearly a need or at least desire for them hence the uptake from the majority of outlets to include them in their planning.

BiteSizedLife · 30/06/2026 17:43

Also remember that parents will need to use these spaces for a short while in their life....

... but disabled users mostly have the misfortune to need them for the rest of their lives :-(

MaidMiriam · 30/06/2026 17:52

@Wheelsoffiah good for you for sticking up for yourself at the time, but sorry you had to experience that. What an unimaginative, nasty ignoramus she was.

Grrr!

ConverselyAttired · 30/06/2026 17:58

TigerRag · 30/06/2026 17:29

Where are these mythical loads of disabled spaces? We usually find there's plenty of free parent and child spaces but not disabled spaces

I see them all the time. I have just left the supermarket. Parent spaces (opposite in shot) are full and all 5 of these bays are empty:

AIBU to think Blue Badge holders can use parent and child spaces?
Maybeitllneverhappen · 30/06/2026 17:59

I'm surprised by this. My mum has a blue badge and specifically asked a traffic warden one time when there were no blue badge spaces, but there were parent and child ones. The traffic warden told of course she could. 🤷‍♀️

caffelattetogo · 30/06/2026 18:05

Maybeitllneverhappen · 30/06/2026 17:59

I'm surprised by this. My mum has a blue badge and specifically asked a traffic warden one time when there were no blue badge spaces, but there were parent and child ones. The traffic warden told of course she could. 🤷‍♀️

Maybe it was a council car park? The rules seem to be different for supermarket and retail unit type car parks which are privately owned.

emuloc · 30/06/2026 18:34

TigerRag · 30/06/2026 17:29

Where are these mythical loads of disabled spaces? We usually find there's plenty of free parent and child spaces but not disabled spaces

There are not enough where I live, that is for sure. I will continue to use a p&c space if no bb spaces are available though.

caffelattetogo · 01/07/2026 10:21

Definitely not enough P&C spaces in the car parks we use.

winterwonder1 · 01/07/2026 10:54

We are short of both BB and P&C spaces in our local supermarket and retail park, although I do wonder if that's partly because neither are enforced regularly enough so they are often filled with selfish arses with big cars who are saving their doors getting dinged.
Maybe if they were properly used there would be enough to go round?

OP posts:
ThreadGuardDog · 01/07/2026 17:41

Honeyhonayboo · 30/06/2026 16:57

They are private car parks, there’s no law that says a disabled badge has priority over what the space is intended for whether that’s parent and child spaces, drop off spaces, or e charging.

Yes, there is. Disabled parking is protected by law. P&C spaces are not. I was a disability outreach worker and supported quite a few clients in fighting fines levied by private parking companies who are only interested in the money. Not one of the cases we appealed were fined. It looks bad. Because it is.

ThreadGuardDog · 01/07/2026 17:42

Maybeitllneverhappen · 30/06/2026 17:59

I'm surprised by this. My mum has a blue badge and specifically asked a traffic warden one time when there were no blue badge spaces, but there were parent and child ones. The traffic warden told of course she could. 🤷‍♀️

And the traffic warden was correct. The reason people get fined for parking in blue badges without a valid badge is because they are enforceable by law. P&C spaces are a concession and not legally enforceable.

Honeyhonayboo · 01/07/2026 17:44

ThreadGuardDog · 01/07/2026 17:41

Yes, there is. Disabled parking is protected by law. P&C spaces are not. I was a disability outreach worker and supported quite a few clients in fighting fines levied by private parking companies who are only interested in the money. Not one of the cases we appealed were fined. It looks bad. Because it is.

No, disabled spaces on private land are not subject to the same laws as council owned land. That is just a legal fact.
A fine not being enforced after appeal doesn’t change that.

ThreadGuardDog · 01/07/2026 17:45

ConverselyAttired · 30/06/2026 17:58

I see them all the time. I have just left the supermarket. Parent spaces (opposite in shot) are full and all 5 of these bays are empty:

Edited

That’s in your area. Provision is patchy across the country because in densely populated areas there are never enough spaces. And the fact is that more and more blue badges are awarded for non physical disabilities based on PIP assessments, so actual walking ability isn’t checked in these cases, just assumed.

BullshitCentral · 01/07/2026 17:52

A supermarket by us caused a shitstorm by fining a disabled person without a child for using a parent and child space. They enforce that their parent and child spaces are only for those with children. It’s private land, they can do what they like.

It turned out that there was disabled parking spaces available but the person had decided they wanted to use a parent and child space, so the disabled person looked a bit silly.

TigerRag · 01/07/2026 17:55

BullshitCentral · 01/07/2026 17:52

A supermarket by us caused a shitstorm by fining a disabled person without a child for using a parent and child space. They enforce that their parent and child spaces are only for those with children. It’s private land, they can do what they like.

It turned out that there was disabled parking spaces available but the person had decided they wanted to use a parent and child space, so the disabled person looked a bit silly.

Was the P&C parking closer?

Sirzy · 01/07/2026 17:57

I think that reflects a lot worse on the supermarket!

I use P and C spaces when I am with DS at a local supermarket. The P and C spaces are directly outside the door. The disabled spaces are across the road with no clear walkway. When with a disabled 16 year old it’s much much safer to not have to navigate a road in a busy car park. You can’t carry a 16 year old like you can a baby!

ThreadGuardDog · 01/07/2026 18:02

BullshitCentral · 01/07/2026 17:52

A supermarket by us caused a shitstorm by fining a disabled person without a child for using a parent and child space. They enforce that their parent and child spaces are only for those with children. It’s private land, they can do what they like.

It turned out that there was disabled parking spaces available but the person had decided they wanted to use a parent and child space, so the disabled person looked a bit silly.

It depends on where the P&C spaces are located. If they are nearer the entrance than the disabled spaces, then they have a point.

suki1964 · 01/07/2026 18:06

I use them if I have my badge on display

I need to open the car door fully to be able to get in and out of the car and if the disabled bays are full P&C it has to be

I dont have a huge car - mini - not my fault parking bays in car parks are so tiny

Mischance · 01/07/2026 18:14

It really isn't simple and seems to vary as to who owns the land. In our local underground council owned car park the parent child spaces are near the lift and the there are more of them. There are fewer disabled bays and they are miles from the lift .
I can park in any bay nearer the lift with my blue badge, but I need the ability to open the door wide in order to get me and my rollator out!
So .... what to do? I do not want to finish up losing my blue badge!

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