AIBU to question why the Royal Family needs to charge rents from organisations such as prisons, NHS and even MacMillan cancer!

[Bunnyfuller1]

Why are we just letting this continue? Charging MacMillan and other charities for office space. FFS.

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Is that the same Green party that believes rapists should be allowed to be placed in the female prison estate if they say they’re women? That Green Party?

Just to inject a bit of balance to counter the "charities pay rent too" narrative....

There are some fabulous charities that only exist /thrive due to the enormous generosity of landowners either gifting them land or charging a nominal rent.

I wish we had a renewed culture of philanthropy and I wish the royal family would set the example.

Cutting the occasional ribbon and a trite interview about how much their care is not enough

They could make a tangible difference without even making a dent in their phenomenal wealth. So could many other billionaires and millionaires.

There are many more people with more money than they could possibly spend. Why haven’t you mentioned them? I bet you’ve bought goods that those people profit from too,

Oh and o/p, macmillan cancer are one of the worst for leeching off the nhs to raise their money.

they pay for MM nurses, yes, in the nhs. But on short term funding, with a contract that once they stop funding their branding remains.

so many of the MM uniformed nurses you see are in fact nhs employed and funded. But the patients see a MM nurse, then guess who they thank and go fundraising for….

Exactly this. All their heartfelt words, turn it into action. They’ve got so much they really would cope. They won’t need food banks. Most others are proclaiming they support and empathise while they skim the profits.

Really? How many charities are exempt from Corporation and Capital Gains Tax? How many organisations tax take is "voluntary"?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/king-charles-princes-william-duchy-cornwall-lancaster-nhs-scandal-republic-abolish-b2640897.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Not only have they an obscene income, they hide it from everyone, have been accused of profiteering from eg the NHS and have been found to rent dilapidated properties.

I bet half the posters praising the RF are the same posters maligning Joe Bloggs, accidental landlord, renting out their flat to save for a rainy day.

If I owned a commercial property I wouldn't give any rent for free no matter what.

@TankFlyBossW4lk most charities are exempt from tax if income used for charitable purposes

Here's one of my favourite stories https://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/news/26235696.naomi-jacks-continues-12-red-roses-rent-tradition/

This hospice, which provides so much desperately needed care and respite, just pays a rent of 12 roses a year

And I know of many other stories of amazing philanthropy. Where individuals and families with far far less wealth than the royals have made immeasurable differences to people's lives.

This.

Thats only part of the story.
The Duchy of Cornwall is not part of the crown estate. It's private wealth for the royals.

People do! I have shared one example that is high profile but there are so many more examples of amazing families and individuals giving or renting land to charities for a nominal sum.

And in fact I am aware of many playing fields and playground's that were gifted to local authorities or are rented to them for a peppercorn rent.

Oh, the Green Party, the party that can’t even tell what a woman is??! How reassuring.

I wouldn’t believe anything they said.

And the anti trans just rolled into town….

Surely depends on how Trusts, charities, Duchy are set up. If set up so organisation is to hand out grants, benevolence then gifting land, peppercorn rent will be in their remit. If organisation is meant to be maximising income, then trustees (or whoever) will not be running organisation correctly by not renting out commercial property.

The Crown Estate is a business doing perfectly normal business things. And of course charities, hospitals etc have to pay rent.
Some of the people on this board believe the most utter nonsense about the Royal Family. But they are fed it by the media - I heard a contributor on national radio last week confidently state that "ticket sales from visitors to Buckingham Palace go straight into the King's pocket"..... bullshit! The money goes to the Royal Collection Trust, which is an excellent charity which looks after the collection of artworks, objects, documents etc that belong to all of us.
So much misinformation out there....

It’s the Crown Estate which is totally separate and overseen by HMT- the money does not go directly to the royal family.

Money from the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster goes to the royal family and they spend it on doing the duties associated with their roles, and William has said he won’t take income from Dartmoor prison and is using Duchy money to build social housing.

Get your facts right.

He's only done that since being put under pressure. And a bit more pressure might do a bit more good.

I don't know why so many people rush to defend the current arrangements.

I wish we had a renewed culture of philanthropy and I wish the royal family would set the example.

Yes, I mean decades ago, when he was Prince of Wales, the King could have set up a trust to provide skills and opportunities to young people, couldn't he. He could have called it - let me think - how about The Prince's Trust?

And he could have set up a Foundation in Scotland handbag Highgrove to run educational programmes and teach a wide range of crafts and skills at all levels.

I expect there are a lot of other things he could have done if only he'd thought of it.

Got it in one

It’s not peppercorn rent, a retail park near me which is adjacent to a wildlife sanctuary last year I believe massively hiked the rents - there were some independent small pop ups that used to go there and they’ve been priced out to have the likes of Ben and Jerry’s taking over. The police used to have concessionaire rates to visit the royal palaces - no more, prices have soared and social club subs can no longer pay for it.

unless you are personally very wealthy, I cannot understand why this excess is defended.

I'm no fan of or royalty, but even I can see that there huge misinformation in the OP, and you are blatantly ignoring actual facts that have been offered to you multiple times @Bunnyfuller1 .

As for the Duchy of Cornwall, if it didn't make money, the government would be having to fund William and his royal duties.

Think there was hope that closure of Dartmoor Prison would be temporary but problem seems to be more serious and harder to solve so no definite time when (if) it can reopen

I agree YANBU to question and I’d imagine they knew people would start to scrutinise their income by becoming more transparent. I think they’re working hard to move away from old ways and prove their value to the country. I’m quite persuaded by Charles Camilla Will and Kate tbh - they seem honest and honourable people. No country is devoid of rich ruling families whatever means they got there be that through election, family ties, business wealth, fraud, dictatorship or oligarchs. The RF seem a lot better than most and they do act as a moderating, steadying force on government which I think is massively underrated.