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To feel like I was made a fool of by DH again

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MonicaGeller010203 · 28/06/2026 22:55

Almost nine years ago, DH started getting mentionitis and a pretty obvious (to me) crush on a neighbour of ours. We frequently hung out together and DC's played. Got really awkward, she knew how I felt and I always believed it highly entertained her and gave her a sense of power. She was unemployed, cash strapped and with both DC in kid , she was under pressure from her H and family to find a job. She used my DH for a lot of small favours and help and used me and the DC at times too.

Cutting to the chase, moved to a new neighbourhood to upsize to the suburbs 4-5 years ago. Lost touch with them. Last week was our 20th wedding anniv and I decided to invite them too.

H had always maintained it was a good familial friendship that i ruined with suspicion even though there was nothing there. In our new community I have a fab gang of girlfriends while he has struggled to make any, he gets along like on an acquaintance level only with their husbands, and hasn't made any other friends

I genuinely thought we had moved on from all that re 8-9 years ago low key drama. But no. He swears when I tried calling him inside to plate up his food that I was seething that he was talking to her (I swear I did not even notice who he was talking as they were sitting out in the garden in a circle, everyone else had their BBQ, and other food on plates, only he had not started yt). His friend asked me why H was not eating with the rest of us. I wish to God I had plated up food for him and taken it to him rather than call him in (for just a minute to take his food).

Later for the rest of the party, he avoided me - I had planned games in the garden for the 6 couples - like musical chairs, a couples duet singing competition that our teen kids were meant to be judging us on (all in fun) - he bailed on the whole thing , took the husband of this lady (not the other men, though one tagged along behind, and the other 2-3 were at a loose end) for a walk, and left us ladies to it, though I had told them the plan was going to be couples stuff, maybe even a little music and dance.

He sulked for the next couple of hours, though was back to something like normalcy by the time the last couple who stayed back (not the ones from the old neighbourhood) to chat and share silly stories, tea and some laughs before leaving. But for me the afternoon felt spoilt

I am not sure what my question is I think the main one is Am in AIBU to feel I was trying to do something nice for him , to show him I was more secure now or I trusted more and to feel like I was made a fool of again. Or was he somehow in the right.

OP posts:
BeardySchnauzer · 29/06/2026 18:16

When was the last time either of you saw her before last night

Dontwearmysocks · 29/06/2026 18:17

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:16

Define Jealous

The woman is ugly on the inside.

You are literally defining jealousy.

Passingthrough123 · 29/06/2026 18:18

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:14

Is it though? IS IT.

Why wont he block her even to save 50 GBP an hour in therapy from his perspective

Come on MNers , he is crazy about her.

Saying that your DH took her DH for a walk so he could sniff her perfume on her DH's jacket (he wore one in 25 degree heat too) IS batshit.

No, he isn't crazy about her. There's really only one person crazy on this thread.

Do the therapy, don't do the therapy. Spend £50, don't spend £50. But your DH is right about one thing - you don't need therapy to clarify how OTT your responses are.

HedgehogSam · 29/06/2026 18:19

I thought this was your 20th anniversary. But that was actually 2 years ago? I know that sometimes people fudge details to avoid being identified, but I think the musical chairs and couples duets and all the other specific information you've included are far more outing than shaving a couple of years off the number you've been married.

Do people really invite friends over to celebrate their 22nd anniversary? That seems a bit unusual.

I genuinely hope the therapy helps. You do need to put in the work yourself, though. The therapist won't wave a magic wand that will instantly give you the clarity you're looking for.

HangryMoose · 29/06/2026 18:20

The only crazy one here is me, for spending my time reading the entirety of this insane nonsense.

Dontwearmysocks · 29/06/2026 18:22

Can I get a lift to the nuthouse @HangryMoose ?

happywifeandlife · 29/06/2026 18:32

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 17:01

He will object Olivia, my mental health is stuff is just made up and me imagining all my problems (I will try and point out the contradiction there to him)

Its not worth throwing money at - not a real urgent wellness issue like his lady love when she had the petite neck sprain and we had to be her carer.....
Or when the cleaning lady's MIL was being mean to her, People have real problems and here I am throwing money away on therapy when I have a great job and money and a big house- He has said this before

Will see what he says now. I am actually a bit anxious

gave him coffee when I made mine, I don't want him to make a scene as younger DS is somewhere around upstairs

It’s your money, do whatever you want with it. Tell him to mind his own beeswax.

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:35

NattyKnitter116 · 29/06/2026 18:16

Ok I’ve caught up. Was a bit of a drip feed, but I understand why. Do the therapy and make sure it’s nowhere he can hear. Do Not tell him what you talk about or what therapist says.

it’s now clear to me that he’s actually the same type of mysogynist bully that my exes were snf my father is. They all hid it very well too and I always appeared to be the crazy one.

sorry, it wasn’t apparent from your initial posts. Now I’ve read it all what’s apparent is that you are/were so desperate for things to work that you are telling yourself back is white. Not surprising that you fall apart when you’re faced with the reality. This is how I coped for years with ex. Told myself I didn’t want to mess up things as would affect my child.

counselling wasn’t really a thing then plus there were no definitions like coercive control.

my only option would have been to go back to parents (impossible) or in to a DHSS B&B (difficult with disabled kid).
then the Blair govt came in, the laws changed and I was able to get him out of our flat and get on with my life. Best day ever.

That was 25 years ago. It may surprise you if I said that I’ve only recently realised that my parents 67 year marriage is codependent and my dad is these previous relationships.

ive discussed it with my mum and she doesn’t want to leave. I’ve offered her financial help to move to sheltered retirement but she said she hasn’t long left. It’s sad but there you are.

so once I realised who my dad was, I went in to therapy for 6 months (I’d already resolved much of the trauma and healing in the last 25 years of being in a safe relationship and having decency and appropriate boundaries modelled). It was very helpful as I was very angry at him
in much the same as I was with my ex and you are now.
for now that anger is going to help you get out of this marriage.
don’t doubt his ability to be nasty. See a solicitor. Do Not tell him what you are doing.

one last thing. My son, who is now 30’s had to start therapy last year - kicked off by the partner he has chosen (he needs to leave but that’s in his gift, no one else’s and I keep my opinions to myself.

him and I have had many deep discussions over the last year and come to realise that my parents created a toxic environment ( it was very much about performative look how great our marriage is), neither of their faults, just the wrong combination of people (although I do think my mum could have had a decent marriage if she’d gone for a less shiny and more substantive prize. I don’t think my dad could have a mature relationship with anyone, even a pet animal- he has emotional range of a 4year old).
anyway that environment led me to choose the partners I chose and I perpetuated the damage.

we’re now working to repair things. Son more together than I was, largely down to my more aware parenting and a good village around him.
it maybe that there’s roots in your childhood. Maybe not. Sometimes the most together people can just be bloody unlucky and pick a wrongun, but generally if you stay there probably something more going on and that’s what therapy will help you unravel.
Good luck. Stay grey rock. Put him in Archive and mute it! Be busy or out as much as possible. Find that new life. Don’t worry about your kids. They may initially blame you - depends how much of a number he’s done on them but be gracious. I never said a negative word about ex for years until he started abusing new wife in front of son and half sis (which was massively upsetting) which tipped son I. To depression as all his childhood memories came flooding back so I had to be honest with him.

don’t allow yourself to be fucked up for longer than necessary.

Thank you NattyK, so much wisdom in your post to take in. Thank you for sharing your very moving story. In tears again here. Endless tears. I want to be brave like you. I am so scared of divorce and being alone, I am angry that she will be laughing at me when I am alone in a soulless apartment leaving this place. I am angry, I am scared, I feel hopeless and so so so sad

OP posts:
Arregaithel · 29/06/2026 18:35

"Why wont he block her"

because it's coercive @MonicaGeller010203

You seem to have convinced yourself that all will be well in your marriage, if he would just block her/take her out of the equation.

Yet you invite her to a BBQ, because she is not actually a threat, you've just actually concocted it, in your head.

oliviaAustin · 29/06/2026 18:36

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:10

Fine, so he should have no problem blocking her then. See my post above.

He will not block her he says because he is not interested in her and has not used the group in ages anyway

Well then there is your answer. He is choosing her over you so your marriage is over.

oliviaAustin · 29/06/2026 18:38

Dontwearmysocks · 29/06/2026 18:10

You are so far removed from reality. I hope you get help.

@oliviaAustin have you not read this thread in it’s entirety?

Of course I have, but shouting at OP and telling her she’s a lunatic like other posters are is unlikely to be at all fruitful. Best to just try and guide her towards therapy and separation for both their sakes. Like I said, it doesn’t matter who is at fault at this point as she despises him.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 29/06/2026 18:38

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 16:35

@murasaki @BettyJoanPerske

would you leave just over the fatty thing if it were you

You can help yourself. Leave if you want to leave.
You are a professional victim and a pain in the arse over this lady.
See a solicitor and start divorcing him.
Have you worked out why you decided to invite her to eat all your lovely food? I mean you clearly hate her guts. So fake.

BeardySchnauzer · 29/06/2026 18:38

Have a look at your finances. Assume a 50/50 split - can you buy him out of the house?

NattyKnitter116 · 29/06/2026 18:38

Passingthrough123 · 29/06/2026 17:20

Exactly. She's gone from saying they've been really happy since their move to the suburbs, that she thought they'd moved past "the silliness" and that she even encouraged the woman and her DH to let her DH back into their cycle group because she knows he misses it to saying he's a bullying, gaslighting horror and he's ruined her life. That's why so many of us have been questioning the veracity of her increasingly manic and inconsistent statements.

Edited

I think if this sort of thing had been around when I was going through this I might have come across the same way. It is truly crazy making. I can’t believe I was ever that person - my 20’s were a rollercoaster.

honestly I’d forgotten what I was like. It’s only as I’ve read through OP’s replies and learnt more about her situation that the similarities have hit me. Mine had additional drug use and occasional violence but the underlying gaslighting and manipulation is identical. Why do we ladies put up with this shit?! (Well I know why I did. Honestly we should all have free therapy as a right of passage to adulthood !)

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:40

BeardySchnauzer · 29/06/2026 18:16

When was the last time either of you saw her before last night

saw her May 2024 Beardy, can't say for sure re DH, they still meet at the inter club tournaments few times a year I guess because of her DC though even the younger one will not play anymore soon as aged out to adult

He just came and said if I block her what next ? what next? My dad and mum to be blocked next?

I said she is as important as your mum or dad? and he said oh no don't do that, dont try to be clever no.

So it was okay when he blocked my male friend to oblivion for saying wow nice DP is that you now , because he had not seen me since HS graduation until the school whatsapp group 9 years ago. Did he deserve to be rudely blocked ?? what next, my mum?

He must not try to be clever, no.

OP posts:
Passingthrough123 · 29/06/2026 18:42

NattyKnitter116 · 29/06/2026 18:38

I think if this sort of thing had been around when I was going through this I might have come across the same way. It is truly crazy making. I can’t believe I was ever that person - my 20’s were a rollercoaster.

honestly I’d forgotten what I was like. It’s only as I’ve read through OP’s replies and learnt more about her situation that the similarities have hit me. Mine had additional drug use and occasional violence but the underlying gaslighting and manipulation is identical. Why do we ladies put up with this shit?! (Well I know why I did. Honestly we should all have free therapy as a right of passage to adulthood !)

I know you've posted in good faith, and it's really brave of you to share your experience and try to help, but I don't think OP is coming from the same place. Flowers

NattyKnitter116 · 29/06/2026 18:47

HedgehogSam · 29/06/2026 18:19

I thought this was your 20th anniversary. But that was actually 2 years ago? I know that sometimes people fudge details to avoid being identified, but I think the musical chairs and couples duets and all the other specific information you've included are far more outing than shaving a couple of years off the number you've been married.

Do people really invite friends over to celebrate their 22nd anniversary? That seems a bit unusual.

I genuinely hope the therapy helps. You do need to put in the work yourself, though. The therapist won't wave a magic wand that will instantly give you the clarity you're looking for.

my parents were like this. Big performative parties that my dad wanted and my mum facilitated to keep him happy. He also used the excuse of coming from a large family.

now they are old and my dad is no longer the strong man of action he saw himself as the wheels have come off completely. My mum goes out as much as possible (no mean feat considering her age and disabilities).
sons dad who is similar sort of man is now alone in a big house and basically a sad old functional alcoholic. If my dad outlast my mum he will be the same.

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:49

oliviaAustin · 29/06/2026 18:36

Well then there is your answer. He is choosing her over you so your marriage is over.

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OP posts:
MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:50

Olivia, so if he does not block her at this point, it is over right? And I am not crazy for deciding that its over?

OP posts:
MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:51

NattyKnitter116 · 29/06/2026 18:47

my parents were like this. Big performative parties that my dad wanted and my mum facilitated to keep him happy. He also used the excuse of coming from a large family.

now they are old and my dad is no longer the strong man of action he saw himself as the wheels have come off completely. My mum goes out as much as possible (no mean feat considering her age and disabilities).
sons dad who is similar sort of man is now alone in a big house and basically a sad old functional alcoholic. If my dad outlast my mum he will be the same.

OH my God Natty, yes - he wants these parties, He always said his mum was such a gracious host and I should not isolate him from his friends, he needs friends around all the time like he needs air

OP posts:
Princessfluffy · 29/06/2026 18:51

You seem to be inviting drama into your life OP

HedgehogSam · 29/06/2026 18:52

Why didn't you stand up for yourself and say you wouldn't block the old friend? You would have been well within your rights to do so. Demanding approval of the contacts of one's spouse is highly controlling. I can understand why your husband has refused, especially as this woman is someone he knows well. I think he's being hypocritical, since he did the same with your old school friend. Though he may say the situations are different since you didn't know each other well.

Also, you had a high school graduation? Are you from the US?

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oliviaAustin · 29/06/2026 18:53

MonicaGeller010203 · 29/06/2026 18:50

Olivia, so if he does not block her at this point, it is over right? And I am not crazy for deciding that its over?

That is your choice, but I would see it as a fundamental betrayal that I, his wife, asked him to block a woman as it’s driving me crazy when he speaks to her and he refuses.

You wouldn’t be crazy to separate if you no longer want to be married to him.

You could try couples therapy first but only if there is no abuse as therapy isn’t recommended for abusive relationships.

NattyKnitter116 · 29/06/2026 18:55

Passingthrough123 · 29/06/2026 18:42

I know you've posted in good faith, and it's really brave of you to share your experience and try to help, but I don't think OP is coming from the same place. Flowers

Maybe not but it might help someone else. If it wasn’t for other people sharing (books/other women - no internet then) I would never have realised I was in a dodgy situation let alone got myself out of it.

you can look back through any of my posts and see I’ve written about this a lot as I know how clever these men are at hiding themselves. Even if OP is pouring oil on the fire and doesn’t currently have to tools to deal with this (much like my
mum who just weaves in and out of the cycle), she may start to work it out in time. Therapy is a very good start.

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