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To get an ick from kissing?

68 replies

Wordierbyhalf · 27/06/2026 11:39

Advice gratefully sought.

I’ve been single for years. OLD is so hard at this age that I get worn out and give up then a few months later think I should try again but I rarely ever get passed the first date so I have little frame of reference so I need the mums hive mind here please.. long one for detail and context.

Last week chatting online and seemed pleasant and not stupid. Suggested a coffee date that afternoon, arranged time and place. It’s a chain opposite a local supermarket and on my way home so thought I’d have a coffee, grab some shopping sorted. Coffee was ok. He asked a lot of fairly personal questions but could put down as genuine interest. Wore his sunglasses indoors (🤦🏻‍♀️) but again, may have had glare I was unaware of. So as we’re leaving we agree to meet again and I give a peck on the cheek, he says no, I want a proper kiss. I say maybe when we have a proper date. Laughs it off and he says he’ll follow me to the main road “to make sure I’m safe”. I said I’m getting some shopping sorted no need, he can head home.

He then says he was also getting some shopping sorted we can go together and can park together over there. We’re leaving the car park together so little chance of avoiding and agree. When he pulls up next to me, he winds the window down and says he’s only got 5% battery so just needs a few minutes to charge, come and sit in the car for a second. Honestly I’d rather have just got the shopping but don’t want to be rude so I join him. Conversation picks up where we left off and he’s being pleasant. He keeps trying to put his hand at the very very top of my leg as if he is just resting it and then he starts again with requesting a kiss. I say I don’t do that with strangers, keeping it light etc but he becomes quite pushy and tbh I thought it would get him off my leg so I say he can have a peck. Sure enough as soon as I get close he pulls me in for what I can only describe as a wet dog, slobbery, dribbly, broken washing machine suction on my face. He was going for tongue before our lips met! I half expected to pull away and find he’d turned into a stranger things style alien. It was not pleasant! I pull away and hop out of the car. He joins me and apologises so I let him walk near me while I grab a couple of bits but I avoid further contact like when he tried to hold my hand, I pretended not to notice then moved my phone to that hand so it wasn’t empty. Get back to the cars, no repeat request and we leave.

Later he’s all apologetic by text, this is his first date since divorce, he was too keen, he overstepped, he doesn’t know etiquette, so sorry etc….

Heres the thing. He’s intelligent, good job, and obviously interested in me. If I set my boundaries and he respects them enough that I’d trust a second date could anybody get passed how awful he is at kissing??? If I met him again I’d want to do almost anything but that! Can guys be re-trained?? Is it even worth trying?

OP posts:
FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 27/06/2026 11:47

That’s not a kissing ick. This guy deliberately trampled your boundaries and coerced you into his car and touched you in an unwanted unreciprocated way, and you basically had to kiss him to be allowed to leave.

Keep the fuck away from him. You probably shouldn’t be dating if you think the bad kissing is the major problem here.

AnAutumnCrow · 27/06/2026 11:49

Do not meet this creep again.

FartNRoses · 27/06/2026 11:49

He’s not interested in you OP, he’s interested in what you can give him.

estrogone · 27/06/2026 11:50

Eww, boundary-less, man child with ZERO respect.

RUN as fast as your legs will carry you away from this weirdo.

ETA: that kiss sounds revolting. It won't get better.

Tel12 · 27/06/2026 11:51

Good grief no. The last thing you need is to be alone with this one.

Marwoodsbigbreak · 27/06/2026 11:51

🤮🤮🤮

SourdoughSally · 27/06/2026 11:52

Run for the hills

Loulou4022 · 27/06/2026 11:54

🚩🚩🚩

MegJoBethandAmytoo · 27/06/2026 11:55

No, no, no.

DanaScullysLegoHair · 27/06/2026 11:55

Oh my god, this is wild. I would block this fucking weirdo and never look back.

He trampled all over your boundaries AND touched you after getting you alone in a car. He knew exactly what he was doing. Do NOT be fooled by the apologies and excuses.

Red flags from a mile away. I'm sorry this happened, it sounds quite frightening.

Teainapinkcup · 27/06/2026 11:56

AnAutumnCrow · 27/06/2026 11:49

Do not meet this creep again.

THIS

Tamtim · 27/06/2026 11:57

Hell no. Block him. Revolting. How dare he kiss you when you had clearly stated that you did not want that. He persistently attempted to cross your boundaries and then tried to excuse himself with a bullshit text.

Bigtrapeze · 27/06/2026 11:57

OP, you didn't sound like you wanted to get in his car but you did. Listen to yourself next time. It's okay to just say no and do what you want. Anyone who is interested will arrange to see you again, if you are keen.

I don't know any male friends of mine who would do any of this. He should have left you happily after the coffee without any pressure. You should never feel pressured or coerced in any way. If you don't want to do something that should be accepted with grace.

I would be concerned that his explanation is a bit manipulative too. You don't need to be out of the dating game to know when the other person isn't keen.

I think sometimes societal pressure to be polite and not make things awkward can be maintained to your detriment. If your gut is saying not to get in a man's car, please listen to it. If it doesn't feel right, on any score, say no thanks and leave. Please.

Cocktailsandcheese · 27/06/2026 11:58

Jeeez, please don't meet up with him again.

LittleGreenShoots · 27/06/2026 11:58

No unwanted kiss is ever going to feel good.

Toss this one back, he doesn't respect you at all.

Onelifeonly · 27/06/2026 12:02

He crossed your obvious boundaries. Don't meet him again.

walrushurricane · 27/06/2026 12:04

That would give anyone the ick. What a creep.

Fallon79 · 27/06/2026 12:04

You had already said no to a kiss and he still continued to pressure you once you were in his car as well as trying to put his hand at the top of your leg. 100% block him

Beachtastic · 27/06/2026 12:06

He's a lunatic. Block and avoid. And never get into a car with a pushy stranger again.

Be safe.

Judging · 27/06/2026 12:06

He’s a lecherous, repulsive creep. I’m amazed you’re even questioning yourself, frankly.

I’d be shuddering at the memory of that kiss for a year.

PenDragon26 · 27/06/2026 12:10

Block him and don’t give him a reason. It’s not your job to teach men basic manners.

CatesandAle · 27/06/2026 12:11

Please please please work on your assertiveness, if you google ‘Mumsnet assertiveness’ you can probably find some useful recs re books and training. It’s honestly so upsetting to hear that an adult woman doesn’t feel able to say no and is going shopping with a man when she doesn’t want to, getting in his car when she doesn’t want to. You don’t owe him anything OP, you’re allowed to say no to anything you don’t want to do.

ginasevern · 27/06/2026 12:13

Doesn't know etiquette? He fucking well knew what he was doing. I'm afraid this is the standard of a lot (too many) men. He's just desperate to get in your knickers. A good job and intelligence counts for diddly squat, just read the news.

Wordierbyhalf · 27/06/2026 12:14

thankyou guys! That was my gut but it’s such an uphill battle already that I didn’t want to think I was the one being precious and this is the new normal for dating! 😭😭😭😭😭

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DontBotherJustChooseYourself · 27/06/2026 12:15

Men like this don't think consent applies to them.

He's a rapist in the making.

Never see him again.