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To get an ick from kissing?

68 replies

Wordierbyhalf · 27/06/2026 11:39

Advice gratefully sought.

I’ve been single for years. OLD is so hard at this age that I get worn out and give up then a few months later think I should try again but I rarely ever get passed the first date so I have little frame of reference so I need the mums hive mind here please.. long one for detail and context.

Last week chatting online and seemed pleasant and not stupid. Suggested a coffee date that afternoon, arranged time and place. It’s a chain opposite a local supermarket and on my way home so thought I’d have a coffee, grab some shopping sorted. Coffee was ok. He asked a lot of fairly personal questions but could put down as genuine interest. Wore his sunglasses indoors (🤦🏻‍♀️) but again, may have had glare I was unaware of. So as we’re leaving we agree to meet again and I give a peck on the cheek, he says no, I want a proper kiss. I say maybe when we have a proper date. Laughs it off and he says he’ll follow me to the main road “to make sure I’m safe”. I said I’m getting some shopping sorted no need, he can head home.

He then says he was also getting some shopping sorted we can go together and can park together over there. We’re leaving the car park together so little chance of avoiding and agree. When he pulls up next to me, he winds the window down and says he’s only got 5% battery so just needs a few minutes to charge, come and sit in the car for a second. Honestly I’d rather have just got the shopping but don’t want to be rude so I join him. Conversation picks up where we left off and he’s being pleasant. He keeps trying to put his hand at the very very top of my leg as if he is just resting it and then he starts again with requesting a kiss. I say I don’t do that with strangers, keeping it light etc but he becomes quite pushy and tbh I thought it would get him off my leg so I say he can have a peck. Sure enough as soon as I get close he pulls me in for what I can only describe as a wet dog, slobbery, dribbly, broken washing machine suction on my face. He was going for tongue before our lips met! I half expected to pull away and find he’d turned into a stranger things style alien. It was not pleasant! I pull away and hop out of the car. He joins me and apologises so I let him walk near me while I grab a couple of bits but I avoid further contact like when he tried to hold my hand, I pretended not to notice then moved my phone to that hand so it wasn’t empty. Get back to the cars, no repeat request and we leave.

Later he’s all apologetic by text, this is his first date since divorce, he was too keen, he overstepped, he doesn’t know etiquette, so sorry etc….

Heres the thing. He’s intelligent, good job, and obviously interested in me. If I set my boundaries and he respects them enough that I’d trust a second date could anybody get passed how awful he is at kissing??? If I met him again I’d want to do almost anything but that! Can guys be re-trained?? Is it even worth trying?

OP posts:
Sparkletastic · 27/06/2026 12:16

Good god no

PenDragon26 · 27/06/2026 12:16

CatesandAle · 27/06/2026 12:11

Please please please work on your assertiveness, if you google ‘Mumsnet assertiveness’ you can probably find some useful recs re books and training. It’s honestly so upsetting to hear that an adult woman doesn’t feel able to say no and is going shopping with a man when she doesn’t want to, getting in his car when she doesn’t want to. You don’t owe him anything OP, you’re allowed to say no to anything you don’t want to do.

I think we’re conditioned to be polite. I find ABSOLUTELY NOT in a loud voice is clearly understood by these creeps.

Mosaic80 · 27/06/2026 12:18

He gave you a parade of red flags, I’d avoid like the plague (even without the rubbish kissing!). He basically forced you into his car and made you kiss him (through pushing and pushing). The “sorry, I was just enthusiastic and didn’t realise etiquette line” sounds bollocks as well.

Myfridgeiscool · 27/06/2026 12:18

He sounds a fucking nightmare OP. No respect for you or your wishes or your boundaries.
Don't see him again.
Ick is an understatement.

FizzyPopLove · 27/06/2026 12:19

Creep. It’s not just the kiss that is disturbing - he is taking the piss.

AzureLurker · 27/06/2026 12:19

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 27/06/2026 11:47

That’s not a kissing ick. This guy deliberately trampled your boundaries and coerced you into his car and touched you in an unwanted unreciprocated way, and you basically had to kiss him to be allowed to leave.

Keep the fuck away from him. You probably shouldn’t be dating if you think the bad kissing is the major problem here.

This, plus throw this one back.
Edited to say, I'd have ran as soon as he said "no I want a proper kiss" ew.

3luckystars · 27/06/2026 12:20

That’s absolutely revolting, never meet him
again or contact him.

Your body is warning you. Listen to it!!

Feralbookworm · 27/06/2026 12:22

Eeew no!! He’s way too pushy!! I’d be running for the hills pet

MajorSamanthaCarter · 27/06/2026 12:22

Urgh, creepy, predatory behaviour. Were you seriously considering going on a second date with him?

FreyaonFire · 27/06/2026 12:33

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 27/06/2026 11:47

That’s not a kissing ick. This guy deliberately trampled your boundaries and coerced you into his car and touched you in an unwanted unreciprocated way, and you basically had to kiss him to be allowed to leave.

Keep the fuck away from him. You probably shouldn’t be dating if you think the bad kissing is the major problem here.

100 percent this ^

cupfinalchaos · 27/06/2026 12:35

A proper kiss on a first date? I would’ve run a mile.

cupfinalchaos · 27/06/2026 12:36

And no, he’s not intelligent to behave like that on a first date.

LoafofSellotape · 27/06/2026 12:39

FloodlightsOnTheSquare · 27/06/2026 11:47

That’s not a kissing ick. This guy deliberately trampled your boundaries and coerced you into his car and touched you in an unwanted unreciprocated way, and you basically had to kiss him to be allowed to leave.

Keep the fuck away from him. You probably shouldn’t be dating if you think the bad kissing is the major problem here.

This!!! So many red flags before you even got to the kissing . Stay well away from him.

Blackcatahotcat · 27/06/2026 12:40

Just…no

SoScarletItWas · 27/06/2026 12:42

CatesandAle · 27/06/2026 12:11

Please please please work on your assertiveness, if you google ‘Mumsnet assertiveness’ you can probably find some useful recs re books and training. It’s honestly so upsetting to hear that an adult woman doesn’t feel able to say no and is going shopping with a man when she doesn’t want to, getting in his car when she doesn’t want to. You don’t owe him anything OP, you’re allowed to say no to anything you don’t want to do.

Came on to say exactly this. @Wordierbyhalf this wasn’t about the crap kiss! Please don’t let politeness result in you being in a stranger’s car again. Please.

MyDadIsTheGreatest · 27/06/2026 12:43

Run for the hills. He doesn't believe in consent.

OriginalSkang · 27/06/2026 12:43

I wouldn't have got past "No, I want a proper kiss".. that's a huge glaring red flag

StrangeWithoutInterest · 27/06/2026 12:46

Do Not Get Into A Car With An Unknown Man Ever Again.

good god.

RosieSpring · 27/06/2026 12:50

What a pig, revolting. Ugh sorry OP.

OriginalSkang · 27/06/2026 12:50

Especially one who has already told you that a pack on the cheek isnt enough

Error404FucksNotFound · 27/06/2026 12:53

Thank god you were in (sort of) public. Lord only knows what he'd have tried if he'd got you in his house.

PascalPony · 27/06/2026 12:55

I’m sorry you had to deal with such appalling behaviour. Absolutely block and never see him again.

Take a bit of time before going back out on the dating scene. Think about who you are, what type of characteristics you’re looking for and what boundaries mean to you. Talk to your friends about their dating experiences, read some books (Dolly Alderton has some good ones on this), listen to podcasts (try Esther Perel’s Where Should We Begin).

It’s really hard to be open to love whilst at the same time being protective of yourself and your needs.

LuckyHazelFox · 27/06/2026 12:57

Think of it as a lucky escape. He wanted something more and was being manipulative. On a more lighthearted note, I'd have more of an ick about the sunglasses.

CatesandAle · 27/06/2026 13:37

MyDadIsTheGreatest · 27/06/2026 12:43

Run for the hills. He doesn't believe in consent.

This nails it.

Sugargliderwombat · 27/06/2026 14:01

Run as fast as you can.

You need to trust your gut more !