To think carers are classed as unskilled but expected to be skilled when things go wrong.

[JonasBogeys]

Maybe it would be a good time to look at the skill set needed for care work and PAY THEM MORE MONEY.
Most carers I meet through my job seem exhausted by working the amount of hours needed to get by.
They receive inadequate training at times.
They get punched and abused (a lot!)
Is it any wonder things go wrong?

thats the issue with society, theres always someone that has to pay, but then everyone is on cheap wages etc we need a better economic model overall

That's the problem

No wonder councils have got no money if they are funding this. No one is saying they should be on minimum wage but there's an enormous difference between minimum wage and this sort of lifestyle

I don't blame you. It seems like the money's going on the people at the top having multiple luxury properties and cars and not on company sick pay when you were severely injured at work. It's a shame the tories privatised it

My FIL has recently transferred from a care home to a live in carer at his own home. The live in carer is more expensive per week (hes self funding)

I assumed the care home fees covered obviously the caring staff and management, but also cleaners, maintenance, catering (food and staff), utility bills, laundry, entertainment, gardeners etc

Care at home cost more, which im puzzled about when the carer is probably on not much more than minimum wage and a lot of the above costs wont be relevant to his own home.

I’m not saying that private companies making a profit isn’t an issue but I think people underestimate the cost of employees. At min wage having 2 people 24/7 will cost over £4.2k a week. It costs an employer much more than just employees wages holiday pay, pension, NI , paid training etc. My guess would be closer to 6k tbh

But surely restraint is a necessary tool then in, as you say, the event of extreme circumstances which presumably would include harming others. In which case strong males would be more suitable than women.

However I did read that carers’ duty is to the client and are not responsible for their interactions with the public - something that needs changing if true.

See I don't get that. You don't know who "the public" are and you can't assume that they will know how to handle any inappropriate behaviour. I also wonder if normalising clients being violent or inappropriate to carers desensitises them and then that affects their expectations of random members of the public.

You can't keep a client safe without taking into account how to behave towards the people they come into contact with.

What was the staff ratio in the care home, compared to a live in carer to FIL?

If it was 1:8 in the care home, and now it’s 1:1, that’s why home care costs more?