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AIBU to think a man accused of throwing a child into a crocodile enclosure should not get bail?

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YourKeenOliveNewt · 20/06/2026 03:37

Aibu to think the man who threw an unknown 3 year old into a crocodile enclosure shouldn't be out on bail?

If anyone could provide any insight into the reasoning behind why was granted bail I would be very interested to hear it.

AIBU: He's a danger to society
AINBU: Innocent until proven guilty

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Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 22:59

Kirbert2 · 21/06/2026 22:57

Which posters have said absolutely nothing should happen at all? Of course something should happen but it needs to be appropriate for him such as a facility that will meet his needs. Not jail and not a psychiatric hospital if he has no MH conditions.

And in the meantime, what? He gets released on bail to potentially hurt someone else? How long is it going to take to piss about finding the right place for him? He needs removing now. He should never have been released.

NorthXNorthWest · 21/06/2026 22:59

ByLemonLeader · 21/06/2026 22:38

I'm going to bite, because you sound a lot like someone I know, who has had a very scary experience in the past and I am even wondering if you might be her.
My DIL worked in a supported living service for people with complex mental health needs and learning disabilities. 30 self contained flats, 24hr staff, varying level of needs, some were completely on dependent and went out and about by themselves.
One female service user got into a very very abusive relationship with a member of the community, there's no need for details but basically my DIL was tasked with trying to get to the bottom of what was going on by speaking to the service user about it. She was around 6 months pregnant at the time, and left one on one with this person.
This person was known to sometimes get aggressive. She had been in prison before for assault and had a worrying obsession with serial killers, particularly Myra Hindley whom she openly said she idolised.
During the conversation, the service user very suddenly punched my DIL straight in the face. She was later found to have a fractured jaw. The service user started screaming about how dare my DIL criticise her boyfriend, she's a fucking slut, she's going to kick her baby out of her. DIL made a run for the door, while the service user rained punches and kicks down on her, and managed to lock herself in an office. The SU was banging and kicking on the door, screaming about how she would "cut her baby out of her, like Charles Manson, and show it to her before she killed her" terrified, shaking and crying, my bruised and injuried DIL managed to phone first the police and then her colleague, who was the only other person on duty, and who was outside smoking and had heard nothing, to please help. The police heard the screaming from the SU and said they were on the way, the colleague said he'd just finish his fag and be right in. The police arrived before the colleague had bothered to re-enter the building to help his pregnant colleague.
They arrested the SU and took her away. The colleague said he would need to call a manager to let them know a SU had been arrested. DIL said she needed to go to hospital as she thought her jaw was fractured, she was badly shaken, and worried about her baby. Colleague said could should not wait until the end of her shift because there wasn't anyone else that could come in
DIL walked out, flagged down a taxi, and went to the hospital. She had scans, the baby was fine, an x-ray confirmed a fractured jaw and she was covered in bruises and very sore. Her phone did not stop ringing the whole time and she received angry voicemails and texts from her boss telling her she should not have walked out. Neither her boss not colleague asked how she was. She also had phone calls from the police asking if she was "sure she wanted to pursue this as they weren't really sure what to do with her".
DIL did want to go ahead and press charges. The SU was released on bail that night.
Over the months leading up to a court case DIL had several people say to her "but isn't it your job to deal with this stuff?" Or "but the police can't really do anything if she's got learning disabilities, can they?" She had a lot of side eye about deciding to press charges against someone who had assaulted her, threatened her life and the life of her child, as if she was being dramatic or over-reacting.
The SU did not turn up to court. The defence basically had the same tactics as others, you do know she's got learning disabilities? Is it not your job? Is this all really necessary?
Nevertheless, the service user was found guilty of GBH and threats to kill. DIL was told someone would let her know about sentencing.
A couple of months later, she received a phone call. I don't know who from, whoever deals with it, but same stuff the police said "do you really want to pursue this, because we're not sure how to take it forward" DIL said yes, she does. Person on the other end of the phone sounded very impatient.
The result? SU was given a "conditional discharge" what was the point in any of that.
Around a year later, the same SU was arrested again, this time for assaulting an elderly man with a golf club in the middle of town in broad daylight. I don't know exactly what happened, but I saw her out and about again, a short time later and I often see her around town, getting into trouble and shouting abuse and people walking by. Nothing is ever done and it's only a matter of time before she hurts someone else.

The point to this story? I can see why people become angry and why people are angry at thean in this situation. My DIL isn't, but my DIL's mother very much is and sounds exactly like you, she thinks the man should get locked up and the key thrown away. She thinks there's too much pandering top much tip-toeing about and that dangerous people should simply be removed from society so they don't hurt anyone else. She's livid that it appeared that noone quite knew what to do about the perpetrator in my DIL's case, there was no victim care, and the person did pretty much get away with it, and they themselves were not given the support they needed (they are still with the highly abusive and dangerous person now and despite the fact that she gets support with soany things she can't amge herself, noone has the ability to remove her from this person who abuses her).

So while I do not agree with you, OP, I do actually sympathise and see where you are coming from. It can absolutely look like things are all centred on the person who did the terrible thing, and their needs, and their future, with less thought being given to the victims. I haven't seen one person ask if anyone knows if that little boy is expected to pull through.

But the reality is, we do have to address people's individual need, this isn't Victorian England, we can't just select the nearest jail cell and chuck them in, or send them to Tyburn or Australia.

But when it seems so wishy-washy and slow and focused the the wrong thing, it is hurtful and frustrating. And bloody scary too.

But the reality is, we do have to address people's individual need, this isn't Victorian England, we can't just select the nearest jail cell and chuck them in, or send them to Tyburn or Australia.

No we don't , but when the they have caused actual harm to someone whether it be a carer or a member of the public. There will be lasting consequences for the child, their parents and wider family because of this one act.

Immediate compassionate incarceration is the appropriate recourse for this behaviour.

Noodledog · 21/06/2026 22:59

SleeplessInWherever · 21/06/2026 21:40

I don’t know, but unfortunately there are definitely more than two of them.

The things that are said on here sometimes are absolutely toe curling. By definitely more than two of them.

I feel like this thread has been taken over by people who have personal reasons to be very defensive about the man who threw a small child into a crocodile pit.

Which may be understandable, but group bullying of anyone who dares to criticise a system that seems to prioritise the right of a man to have a day out at the zoo over the safety of the general public is not great. And won't be persuading anyone to agree with you.

XenoBitch · 21/06/2026 23:02

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 22:59

And in the meantime, what? He gets released on bail to potentially hurt someone else? How long is it going to take to piss about finding the right place for him? He needs removing now. He should never have been released.

If he lives in secure accommodation, and if he has profound LD then there is a very high chance he does, then he will have been bailed there.
But nowhere has said where he has been bailed to. Maybe call the police and ask, and they will tell you the information you are entitled to (none).

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 21/06/2026 23:02

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 21:35

While I'm at it, those useless carers who failed to control the monster should be locked up for a spell too.
And whatever overpaid social worker decided he should have 2:1 supervision while out (so was clearly known to be dangerous) but also that sending him to a zoo full of children with two gormless phone addicted, uneducated support workers was a good idea.
Lock them all up. Together.

I hope the victims family sue the care agency.
Then hopefully we will have less of these incidents like this one and the poor child that was thrown off the Tate Gallery.
What in God’s name (even if they had been attentive, which it seems they weren’t ) could two women care workers do to stop a violent adult.
These risk assessments (for day trips out in public) are totally inadequate for the protection of other members of the public.

Kirbert2 · 21/06/2026 23:02

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 22:59

And in the meantime, what? He gets released on bail to potentially hurt someone else? How long is it going to take to piss about finding the right place for him? He needs removing now. He should never have been released.

Conditional bail. No one knows what those conditions are but I highly doubt it involves him roaming around.

He hasn't been charged with anything and was deemed unfit for interview. They had to release him.

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:02

ByLemonLeader · 21/06/2026 22:38

I'm going to bite, because you sound a lot like someone I know, who has had a very scary experience in the past and I am even wondering if you might be her.
My DIL worked in a supported living service for people with complex mental health needs and learning disabilities. 30 self contained flats, 24hr staff, varying level of needs, some were completely on dependent and went out and about by themselves.
One female service user got into a very very abusive relationship with a member of the community, there's no need for details but basically my DIL was tasked with trying to get to the bottom of what was going on by speaking to the service user about it. She was around 6 months pregnant at the time, and left one on one with this person.
This person was known to sometimes get aggressive. She had been in prison before for assault and had a worrying obsession with serial killers, particularly Myra Hindley whom she openly said she idolised.
During the conversation, the service user very suddenly punched my DIL straight in the face. She was later found to have a fractured jaw. The service user started screaming about how dare my DIL criticise her boyfriend, she's a fucking slut, she's going to kick her baby out of her. DIL made a run for the door, while the service user rained punches and kicks down on her, and managed to lock herself in an office. The SU was banging and kicking on the door, screaming about how she would "cut her baby out of her, like Charles Manson, and show it to her before she killed her" terrified, shaking and crying, my bruised and injuried DIL managed to phone first the police and then her colleague, who was the only other person on duty, and who was outside smoking and had heard nothing, to please help. The police heard the screaming from the SU and said they were on the way, the colleague said he'd just finish his fag and be right in. The police arrived before the colleague had bothered to re-enter the building to help his pregnant colleague.
They arrested the SU and took her away. The colleague said he would need to call a manager to let them know a SU had been arrested. DIL said she needed to go to hospital as she thought her jaw was fractured, she was badly shaken, and worried about her baby. Colleague said could should not wait until the end of her shift because there wasn't anyone else that could come in
DIL walked out, flagged down a taxi, and went to the hospital. She had scans, the baby was fine, an x-ray confirmed a fractured jaw and she was covered in bruises and very sore. Her phone did not stop ringing the whole time and she received angry voicemails and texts from her boss telling her she should not have walked out. Neither her boss not colleague asked how she was. She also had phone calls from the police asking if she was "sure she wanted to pursue this as they weren't really sure what to do with her".
DIL did want to go ahead and press charges. The SU was released on bail that night.
Over the months leading up to a court case DIL had several people say to her "but isn't it your job to deal with this stuff?" Or "but the police can't really do anything if she's got learning disabilities, can they?" She had a lot of side eye about deciding to press charges against someone who had assaulted her, threatened her life and the life of her child, as if she was being dramatic or over-reacting.
The SU did not turn up to court. The defence basically had the same tactics as others, you do know she's got learning disabilities? Is it not your job? Is this all really necessary?
Nevertheless, the service user was found guilty of GBH and threats to kill. DIL was told someone would let her know about sentencing.
A couple of months later, she received a phone call. I don't know who from, whoever deals with it, but same stuff the police said "do you really want to pursue this, because we're not sure how to take it forward" DIL said yes, she does. Person on the other end of the phone sounded very impatient.
The result? SU was given a "conditional discharge" what was the point in any of that.
Around a year later, the same SU was arrested again, this time for assaulting an elderly man with a golf club in the middle of town in broad daylight. I don't know exactly what happened, but I saw her out and about again, a short time later and I often see her around town, getting into trouble and shouting abuse and people walking by. Nothing is ever done and it's only a matter of time before she hurts someone else.

The point to this story? I can see why people become angry and why people are angry at thean in this situation. My DIL isn't, but my DIL's mother very much is and sounds exactly like you, she thinks the man should get locked up and the key thrown away. She thinks there's too much pandering top much tip-toeing about and that dangerous people should simply be removed from society so they don't hurt anyone else. She's livid that it appeared that noone quite knew what to do about the perpetrator in my DIL's case, there was no victim care, and the person did pretty much get away with it, and they themselves were not given the support they needed (they are still with the highly abusive and dangerous person now and despite the fact that she gets support with soany things she can't amge herself, noone has the ability to remove her from this person who abuses her).

So while I do not agree with you, OP, I do actually sympathise and see where you are coming from. It can absolutely look like things are all centred on the person who did the terrible thing, and their needs, and their future, with less thought being given to the victims. I haven't seen one person ask if anyone knows if that little boy is expected to pull through.

But the reality is, we do have to address people's individual need, this isn't Victorian England, we can't just select the nearest jail cell and chuck them in, or send them to Tyburn or Australia.

But when it seems so wishy-washy and slow and focused the the wrong thing, it is hurtful and frustrating. And bloody scary too.

What an awful story, and I can believe every word of it. I am so sorry for your DIL.
I hope to God she doesn't still have to work with this woman?
Terrifying to think a psycho like that is still wondering around town attacking people!!

StartingFreshFor2026 · 21/06/2026 23:05

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 22:59

And in the meantime, what? He gets released on bail to potentially hurt someone else? How long is it going to take to piss about finding the right place for him? He needs removing now. He should never have been released.

Oh my goodness, he absolutely will not be just walking around the community free now, this has been said so many times! Also, some people on hospital orders etc never get released. It can be indefinite. This is already happening.

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:06

Kirbert2 · 21/06/2026 23:02

Conditional bail. No one knows what those conditions are but I highly doubt it involves him roaming around.

He hasn't been charged with anything and was deemed unfit for interview. They had to release him.

Yes, I know they had to
The point I am making is that they shouldn't have to.
He should be immediately and permanently incarcerated. There were multiple witnesses. Probably security footage too. Who cares of he's not fit for interview? Is it necessary for him to be? People stay silent in interviews all the time. So he can't say anything, what does it matter? Doesn't change how dangerous he is and what he did and isn't a reason to let him back out until God knows when.

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:09

StartingFreshFor2026 · 21/06/2026 23:05

Oh my goodness, he absolutely will not be just walking around the community free now, this has been said so many times! Also, some people on hospital orders etc never get released. It can be indefinite. This is already happening.

You don't know the conditions of his bail. How do you know he isn't out and about?
Or do you mean he will have 2 carers with him? Because evidently, that won't stop him.

Also, some people on hospital orders etc never get released. It can be indefinite. This is already happening.
Obviously, not often enough. Because this monster is free.
If it's already possible, that just even more reason why he shouldn't have been released.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 21/06/2026 23:09

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:06

Yes, I know they had to
The point I am making is that they shouldn't have to.
He should be immediately and permanently incarcerated. There were multiple witnesses. Probably security footage too. Who cares of he's not fit for interview? Is it necessary for him to be? People stay silent in interviews all the time. So he can't say anything, what does it matter? Doesn't change how dangerous he is and what he did and isn't a reason to let him back out until God knows when.

"He should be immediately and permanently incarcerated." / "let him back out".

I'm so confused. What do you think actually happened after the arrest? Where do you think he is now?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 21/06/2026 23:10

ByLemonLeader · 21/06/2026 22:38

I'm going to bite, because you sound a lot like someone I know, who has had a very scary experience in the past and I am even wondering if you might be her.
My DIL worked in a supported living service for people with complex mental health needs and learning disabilities. 30 self contained flats, 24hr staff, varying level of needs, some were completely on dependent and went out and about by themselves.
One female service user got into a very very abusive relationship with a member of the community, there's no need for details but basically my DIL was tasked with trying to get to the bottom of what was going on by speaking to the service user about it. She was around 6 months pregnant at the time, and left one on one with this person.
This person was known to sometimes get aggressive. She had been in prison before for assault and had a worrying obsession with serial killers, particularly Myra Hindley whom she openly said she idolised.
During the conversation, the service user very suddenly punched my DIL straight in the face. She was later found to have a fractured jaw. The service user started screaming about how dare my DIL criticise her boyfriend, she's a fucking slut, she's going to kick her baby out of her. DIL made a run for the door, while the service user rained punches and kicks down on her, and managed to lock herself in an office. The SU was banging and kicking on the door, screaming about how she would "cut her baby out of her, like Charles Manson, and show it to her before she killed her" terrified, shaking and crying, my bruised and injuried DIL managed to phone first the police and then her colleague, who was the only other person on duty, and who was outside smoking and had heard nothing, to please help. The police heard the screaming from the SU and said they were on the way, the colleague said he'd just finish his fag and be right in. The police arrived before the colleague had bothered to re-enter the building to help his pregnant colleague.
They arrested the SU and took her away. The colleague said he would need to call a manager to let them know a SU had been arrested. DIL said she needed to go to hospital as she thought her jaw was fractured, she was badly shaken, and worried about her baby. Colleague said could should not wait until the end of her shift because there wasn't anyone else that could come in
DIL walked out, flagged down a taxi, and went to the hospital. She had scans, the baby was fine, an x-ray confirmed a fractured jaw and she was covered in bruises and very sore. Her phone did not stop ringing the whole time and she received angry voicemails and texts from her boss telling her she should not have walked out. Neither her boss not colleague asked how she was. She also had phone calls from the police asking if she was "sure she wanted to pursue this as they weren't really sure what to do with her".
DIL did want to go ahead and press charges. The SU was released on bail that night.
Over the months leading up to a court case DIL had several people say to her "but isn't it your job to deal with this stuff?" Or "but the police can't really do anything if she's got learning disabilities, can they?" She had a lot of side eye about deciding to press charges against someone who had assaulted her, threatened her life and the life of her child, as if she was being dramatic or over-reacting.
The SU did not turn up to court. The defence basically had the same tactics as others, you do know she's got learning disabilities? Is it not your job? Is this all really necessary?
Nevertheless, the service user was found guilty of GBH and threats to kill. DIL was told someone would let her know about sentencing.
A couple of months later, she received a phone call. I don't know who from, whoever deals with it, but same stuff the police said "do you really want to pursue this, because we're not sure how to take it forward" DIL said yes, she does. Person on the other end of the phone sounded very impatient.
The result? SU was given a "conditional discharge" what was the point in any of that.
Around a year later, the same SU was arrested again, this time for assaulting an elderly man with a golf club in the middle of town in broad daylight. I don't know exactly what happened, but I saw her out and about again, a short time later and I often see her around town, getting into trouble and shouting abuse and people walking by. Nothing is ever done and it's only a matter of time before she hurts someone else.

The point to this story? I can see why people become angry and why people are angry at thean in this situation. My DIL isn't, but my DIL's mother very much is and sounds exactly like you, she thinks the man should get locked up and the key thrown away. She thinks there's too much pandering top much tip-toeing about and that dangerous people should simply be removed from society so they don't hurt anyone else. She's livid that it appeared that noone quite knew what to do about the perpetrator in my DIL's case, there was no victim care, and the person did pretty much get away with it, and they themselves were not given the support they needed (they are still with the highly abusive and dangerous person now and despite the fact that she gets support with soany things she can't amge herself, noone has the ability to remove her from this person who abuses her).

So while I do not agree with you, OP, I do actually sympathise and see where you are coming from. It can absolutely look like things are all centred on the person who did the terrible thing, and their needs, and their future, with less thought being given to the victims. I haven't seen one person ask if anyone knows if that little boy is expected to pull through.

But the reality is, we do have to address people's individual need, this isn't Victorian England, we can't just select the nearest jail cell and chuck them in, or send them to Tyburn or Australia.

But when it seems so wishy-washy and slow and focused the the wrong thing, it is hurtful and frustrating. And bloody scary too.

Omg how horrifying and yes I can totally see how there seems to be no justice for you dil and it is disgraceful that someone like her attacker can go on to attack again and again.
And how many are there like this out there.

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:11

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 21/06/2026 23:10

Omg how horrifying and yes I can totally see how there seems to be no justice for you dil and it is disgraceful that someone like her attacker can go on to attack again and again.
And how many are there like this out there.

Exactly. Probably loads.
Wouldn't get surprised if this man also has previous.

Kirbert2 · 21/06/2026 23:12

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:06

Yes, I know they had to
The point I am making is that they shouldn't have to.
He should be immediately and permanently incarcerated. There were multiple witnesses. Probably security footage too. Who cares of he's not fit for interview? Is it necessary for him to be? People stay silent in interviews all the time. So he can't say anything, what does it matter? Doesn't change how dangerous he is and what he did and isn't a reason to let him back out until God knows when.

Of course it's necessary. That's how the law works thankfully.

Do I really have to explain the difference between someone who is capable of understanding their rights and has capacity to answer ''no comment'' in an interview if they wish compared to someone who has no understanding, has a learning disability and isn't able to answer?

ThreadGuardDog · 21/06/2026 23:13

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:06

Yes, I know they had to
The point I am making is that they shouldn't have to.
He should be immediately and permanently incarcerated. There were multiple witnesses. Probably security footage too. Who cares of he's not fit for interview? Is it necessary for him to be? People stay silent in interviews all the time. So he can't say anything, what does it matter? Doesn't change how dangerous he is and what he did and isn't a reason to let him back out until God knows when.

You’re actually questioning whether someone has to be fit for interview ? In this case meaning having the mental capacity to understand what he’s done and to be able to engage with the process ? And you’re suggesting jailing him without trial too. Nice.

StartingFreshFor2026 · 21/06/2026 23:13

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:09

You don't know the conditions of his bail. How do you know he isn't out and about?
Or do you mean he will have 2 carers with him? Because evidently, that won't stop him.

Also, some people on hospital orders etc never get released. It can be indefinite. This is already happening.
Obviously, not often enough. Because this monster is free.
If it's already possible, that just even more reason why he shouldn't have been released.

Why do you think he is free?

I know enough professionally (like many other posters on the thread) that it is almost impossible he will have been immediately returned to 2:1 community arrangement after an incident like this.

BlushingBrightly · 21/06/2026 23:13

StartingFreshFor2026 · 21/06/2026 23:05

Oh my goodness, he absolutely will not be just walking around the community free now, this has been said so many times! Also, some people on hospital orders etc never get released. It can be indefinite. This is already happening.

OK, lots of you are arguing that this terrible thing came about because the system failed (blasé care managers, negligent carers, lack of risk assessment). Yet you're also saying 'he won't just be wandering around, the system will make sure of that'! How are we supposed to trust that this shoddy system will now be doing things responsibility?

StartingFreshFor2026 · 21/06/2026 23:17

BlushingBrightly · 21/06/2026 23:13

OK, lots of you are arguing that this terrible thing came about because the system failed (blasé care managers, negligent carers, lack of risk assessment). Yet you're also saying 'he won't just be wandering around, the system will make sure of that'! How are we supposed to trust that this shoddy system will now be doing things responsibility?

Because there is a big difference between "these are the risks we've seen and managed, e.g. maybe some impulsive behaviour, once kicked a staff member" and "this man causes an international news storm because he threw a toddler to crocodiles in a zoo."

Can you not see that??

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:17

BlushingBrightly · 21/06/2026 23:13

OK, lots of you are arguing that this terrible thing came about because the system failed (blasé care managers, negligent carers, lack of risk assessment). Yet you're also saying 'he won't just be wandering around, the system will make sure of that'! How are we supposed to trust that this shoddy system will now be doing things responsibility?

Exactly!!

XenoBitch · 21/06/2026 23:17

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:06

Yes, I know they had to
The point I am making is that they shouldn't have to.
He should be immediately and permanently incarcerated. There were multiple witnesses. Probably security footage too. Who cares of he's not fit for interview? Is it necessary for him to be? People stay silent in interviews all the time. So he can't say anything, what does it matter? Doesn't change how dangerous he is and what he did and isn't a reason to let him back out until God knows when.

Yes, people stay silent in interviews. "No comment" etc. But they are capable of talking to their legal representation when not being interviewed.
Someone with severe LD is not going to be able to do that, let alone understand any of what is happening.

No one gets immediately permanently incarcerated after arrest. No one. Even if they have done something truly evil. What happened still has to be investigated, trials if they plead not guilty (and how can someone who does not understand anything and is possibly non-verbal plead anything?) there has to be a sentencing reports etc. The proper process has to be carried out, otherwise you may as well have kangaroo courts and gallows in every town square.

Chillblame · 21/06/2026 23:19

Fallox · 21/06/2026 21:32

If it helps the empathy for the perpetrator doesnt take away from the empathy for the victim.

I used to work doing assessments of wether people were fit for trial, custody etc. I've also worked in secure hospitals.

Part of that is motivated by getting it right for society

I imagine it was really hard for victims when I assessed that someone shouldn't go through the criminal justice route, but go to a secure hospital. Or when I stated they werent fit for interview.

However I was also motivated to protect the trial too. Getting it right meant that trials wouldn't fall apart, that perpetrators couldn't go through endless appeals and cases overturned because that's also traumatic to the victim. I would hate for someone to be found not guilty simply because tje evidence gathered became inadmissable because they were unwell.

I had a sense of responsibility for society at large. In cases similar to this going through the criminal justice route might make fulfill the want for blood but not when the trial falls apart and they arent found guilty. And not when they returned people back into society after the prison sentence to the same scenario.

Diverting people into hospital often meant they were in state care for longer, given proper care and release conditions that reduced the risk to public much more successfully.

I hold the rights of the individual and the rights of society at the same time when realistically "getting rid" of people isnt on the list of options

Edited

This feels like a very important role. I can understand the importance of getting it right for everyone

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:22

Chillblame · 21/06/2026 23:19

This feels like a very important role. I can understand the importance of getting it right for everyone

Yes, all very big and important.

Seriously, how clever and important do you need to be to see that people that throw toddlers to crocodiles shouldn't be allowed out.

You don't need to be a genius with a fancy job to work that out.

Waitingfordoggo · 21/06/2026 23:25

@Temporaryusernamename The way you keep referring to a severely disabled person as a ‘monster’ is gross and reflects really badly on you.

XenoBitch · 21/06/2026 23:29

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:22

Yes, all very big and important.

Seriously, how clever and important do you need to be to see that people that throw toddlers to crocodiles shouldn't be allowed out.

You don't need to be a genius with a fancy job to work that out.

He isn't going to be allowed out now.
But I am pretty sure him throwing a child over a railing was not in his risk assessment.

Temporaryusernamename · 21/06/2026 23:31

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