AIBU to be amused at the prospect of a Scouse PM?

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OK, this is a lighthearted thread. It is not dissing Scousers, I am one.

I have never voted Labour, so I have no skin in the game. However, this morning I had the jolliest chuckle I have had for a very long time.

All because, very shortly, we may have a Scouser as our PM.

Our time has come. We have been undervalued for such a long time. Instead of the usual Eton Educated Old Boys network, we will have a down to earth man with a northern accent running the country.

And no, he is not a pretend working class person. He was born in Aintree, which is actually a couple of miles from where I was born. He is defo not posh. His parents moved to a naice town in Warrington and yes, he has a foot in both Liverpool and Manchester camps. He's an Evertonian.

It will be interesting to watch and see what makes him tick.

2TK is a champagne socialist who laughably trotted out that his dad was a toolmaker and he was working class. Well, I am WC and my kids go to a state school in the burbs of London and their mates are all MC from expensive houses. It is so far a cry from what goes on in other areas. KS doesn't have a clue what it is like for the rest of the country.

I didn't vote Labour, and not sure I still will. However, if AB gets to no.10 I will be glad that at last we have a person who understands what it is like in other parts of the country aside from the south.

AIBU to have a chuckle that our next PM will be a fellow Scouser (maybe)

Have a chuckle by all means but Burnham will make zero difference. He’s another egotistical, careerist.

He has done well for Manchester but he won’t turn around the UK. Too many issues and problems beyond his control.

I would love to be proved wrong but he will be kicked out at the next GE.

The UK needs huge electoral reform and cross party consensus to really strategise for the long term. It can’t continue to be at the mercy of another egotistical politician with half arsed ideas and policies.

I mean, it’s worked out well for the Labour Party so far, hasn’t it 😂

Only by about 50 miles.

Ha! My husband is too. I’m from a rougher part myself. Not scary though 😂

Reigate is a really nice place but so are places like York and Knutsford.

And equally somewhere like Ramsgate in Kent is pretty deprived, even if it doesn't rival the likes of Blackpool.

To talk of a north-south divide is too simplistic.

But given the almost racist attitudes towards people from Liverpool in some quarters, I'd quite like to see Burnham as PM. I'd like to see Starmer be Foreign Secretary - after all David Cameron did it after being PM.

That said, I would also quite like a country where we don't get rid of our PMs every two years because everything doesn't magically change overnight. Actually if you look at the government website, they are doing loads of stuff but there are no magic fixes.

Delighted Burnham beat Reform so convincingly though.

esther mcvey is terrifying

In contrast. If someone got in and emptied out and stopped the wave of illegal undocumented males entering our country, that would secure my vote too.
I just want someone bold to get shit done.

From his achievements when he was in Govt before I think you may be disappointed

But given the almost racist attitudes towards people from Liverpool ... We've discussed this before on a different thread (I had a different username), and it is definitely a thing. It's not 'racism' but it is prejudice, and it's often passed as 'banter'.
I think Brummies and the Welsh get it too.

He’s not one for principles, given his recent U-turn on an issue that he was fairly vehement about prior to standing as MP

It’s easy to talk a good game when you are trying to get the job but a lot different once you have the books in your hands

without someone willing to make decisions for the long term rather than the next election we are pretty much screwed

This is probably my own class bias talking but when someone claims to be working class but also seems to be performatively confused about the difference between a man and a woman (or why women need some of their own stuff) I tend to think, "hmm, don't believe you. Only the middle classes can be that daft!"

I think that people believe AB to be the silver bullet the party needs, but what's so special about him? Yes, he's got more charisma than Keir and he's better looking, but so what. I think it's good to have him in the party, but I don't want him ousting Keir. We need stability.

I agree with this. As someone living down south, the things I’ve had said to my face in the past are appalling. Sometimes I wish we were the 10th protected characteristic in the Equality Act.

South of the Humber though so not "proper" northern.

@somewhereintheworld , I agree (apart from the better looking bit,both look all right to me). It's a bit like people think he'll fix everything. The problems will still be there.

He has got more charisma than Sir Keir, but I don't want change. KS is good as an international leader.
Weasley Wes can do one.

So do I. And he is. Lovely man.

😁

This is such a depressing thread. The social mobility as a result of grammar schools and uni grants was remarkable. Sadly one of the notable beneficiaries of this system (Thatcher) is responsible for significant economic hardships in areas across the country.

Are we not beyond shaming people for listening to classical music, being interested in education and wanting to spell correctly?

I don't really care where St Andy of Burnham is from, in terms of geography or class.

I care that he's a shapeshifting populist opportunist who has a proven track record of saying whatever the people right in front of him want to hear whether or not he believes in it himself, it's within his power to honour it, or even if it's legal.

The man is a self-deluded intellectual pigmy with a Messiah complex, with absolutely no grasp of the responsibility of national government and the hard choices he faces. Burnham as PM would be absolutely disastrous for the country... the bond markets told us that this morning.

Isn't he from Nazareth?

Came here to say this
He s a wool

This! Also KS didn't go to Eton, i have no issues with Andy Burnham really he is wanting to better himself and make changes, fair play to him. KS is trying to clear up 14 years of crap I think he is getting a hard time.

Not a fan then 😂

He could come from the moon for all I care, as far as I can see he's all talk and hasn't got the first fucking clue what he's doing.

He's already announcing what he will do as PM, and there hasn't even been a leadership contest yet. I'd laugh like a drain if someone else beat him to it.

@Sartre , neither of which are WC occupations imo. In your opinon. Both could have been considered blue collar jobs then.

@Lomonald , Also KS didn't go to Eton What's that got to do with anything?