Can’t get over poor baby Preston

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Not sure this is an AIBU, I never post on here but just feel I want to today. I am a 59 year old nana of 3 gourgous grandchildren including a one year old boy, the whole story in the need the last few weeks and especially this week about poor baby Preston that was tortured, abused and ultimately murdered by his 2 adoptive “fathers” has completely traumatized me. I am recovering from a big surgery 2 weeks ago so feeling emotional but this has really upset me so much that this was able to happen and that no one, not any social services, medics on visits to the hospital - one even with a broken elbow ffs - friends and family of these monsters realised what was happening and that Preston wasn’t a happy one year old. My grandson is always happy and smiling unless he is poorly so how did this go unnoticed? I had to turn the news off Monday when they showed this poor baby trying to sleep and this monster kept making him wake up.

im not naive, I have worked in public service including health and social services which I think is why I can’t comprehend how this was allowed to happen. It just feels like there is so many awful things in the world, and has made me so sad. 😭

I hate the fact that these things go on, we are all going about our daily life with no concerns, and we are powerless to help.
This sort of thing is so sickening it’s not even worth thinking about. But what we do know is that both those sick evils bastards will get what is coming to them, similar to Huntley. And we’ve got to say, it’s always men isn’t it? And I like men!

They went through a a private company Adoption Now or something, which is unfortunate as these organisations definitely put profit above all else, it's one of the reasons our public services are so shit because a lot of work is outsourced to profit hungry retarded companies like this..
Judge should have just told the pair of them to walk off a cliff because let's be honest who would actually care.

Good! Justice has been served. I hope neither of them have a moment of peace for the rest of their miserable lives.

Rest in peace little sweetheart. ❤️

It’s just horrendous. The state really does bear some responsibility in this case as it made the decision to take that baby from its mother and hand him to these two who abused him so routinely that he died within just four months. Only about 100 babies are adopted in the UK each year so to have one of them die like this seems utterly incomprehensible. In many other cases we say ‘chances were missed’ but in this case the state made the decisions. That poor lovely baby

It’s not a reasonable inference because that’s not how statistics work. The fact that most abusers are men doesn’t = most men are abusers and therefore doesn’t = male only households are more risky. For example, girls are more frequently victimised than boys, so boys at home with bio dads are safer than girls in a home with mum’s new boyfriend.

Data shows broadly similar and in some cases better outcomes for children raised by single fathers than single mothers.

I think it’s very dangerous to say male only households present a higher risk to children because it can mask the evidenced risks such as from unrelated men in a home with mothers and kids, and from other known males including family members or friends and professionals. It also overlooks the massive proportion of sexual abuse that’s perpetrated by children against other children.

Any unrelated male coming into the home to live should be vetted to whatever level possible (Claire’s/Sarah’s Law for parents to do) and supervised properly. And adoptive/foster parents should continue to be highly regulated. Maybe more supervision is needed in early adoption.

@Allisnotlost1 Fair point, and thank you for explaining. It just seemed back to front to me, as well as adding to the awfulness of it all.

Adoption Now is a not for profit.

’Adoption Now is coordinated by Bolton council and is responsible for carrying out the following functions on behalf of Bury, Oldham, Rochdale and Tameside local authorities’

https://adoptionnow.org.uk/homepage/24/privacy-policy

It's not often I say this but I truly hope they meet an equally excruciating demise down here on earth and get their just deserts in the hereafter.

I totally understand. I can’t imagine anyone wants to see any mistakes covered up, including the professionals involved, but if we unfairly scapegoat those professionals before we fully know what happened then even fewer people will want to do that work.

Off to prison both go. I sincerely hope they spend the rest of their life looking over their shoulders.

Shaken to the core.

RIP Preston

Joanna Nicholas, CP consultant has just been on R4 and mentioned that the elbow injury was a spiral fracture and should have been treated as non-accidental due to his age meaning he was non-mobile. Curious to know if @Runningswanker or other professionals have a view on that specific fact.

Not officially for profit but outsourcing work to other places always leads to someone somewhere making more money than necessary by doing what should be considered important work. Even before they investigate the issues around this case they have admitted that there is poor communication between different professionals e.g. police, hospitals (in general, not just in this disaster). I'm so sick of the ramshackle institutions in this country, everything is run into the ground with agencies and other organisations just rinsing the funding and the result is absolute tragedies like this. Honestlyz if we are to get justice in this case they need to drag those involved in his care into court as well..get them standing before the judge for what they have been involved in because it's the only way things will change..we won't though, and there'll be another face like Preston's in the news next year, probably being abused right now .

I'm certainly not an expert, but from what I remember from an episode of CSI New York a teenage girl with a spiral fracture was how they figured out her dad was abusive as he'd twisted her arm.

I'd say it's even more dodgy in a baby not even walking yet. When DS was learning to walk there were a few times when he fell over and I grabbed his arm because I was worried about him bumping his head. A spiral fracture after that would make sense. (DS was okay.)

I feel the same. I have 2 year old twin girls and this awful news just broke me, I keep thinking about his beautiful little face. I just can't comprehend how anyone could have done anything so cruel and inhumane. And just the idea that it must have been so calculated and planned with the adoption too. How can anyone grow up to be like that? Also can't believe the red flags that were missed. I work for the NHS and absolutely everyone has to do a safeguarding course for children. I dont know how this was missed.

Jamie Varley had done safeguarding training at the school where he taught. So he knew exactly the right answers to give to any situations. Calculated.

It really isn't always men. There have been lists on this thread of extremely disturbing cases perpetrated by women: mothers, stepmothers, foster mothers adoptive mothers, carers, nannies etc.

I wish people would focus on trying to identify abusers, not make assumptions about gender.

Read the reports from Preston's foster dad. He clearly adored him.

I’m a life-long opponent of the death penalty / murder in any form.

However, for the first time in my life I hope these men are tortured, abused and slowly murdered in jail. Hopefully then they’ll comprehend exactly how their defenceless victim felt… so that they’re fruitlessly crying-out for redemption as they’re carted off to hell for eternity.

Sadly though, they’ll be on a list of vulnerable offenders due to their high risk from other prisoners - so they’ll be kept in solitary. Far too good for these vile evil cunts.

I haven’t listened or read much as it’s just so hard to take in but god how evil those men are. Truly revolting. I can’t post anything strong enough in words.

Absolutely heartbreaking.
Another child utterly failed.

I sincerely hope they never know a days peace, ever.

I actually fear some people like the murderer in this case won't ever be able to understand what they've done, it's like part of their brain is missing . I hope you are .right though and they actually learn the full horror of what they've done, it's something a person couldn't possibly live with.

I'm absolutely traumatised by this case, and many others that came before it. Preston is the last thing I think about at night and the first thing when I wake up; the mental images are unbearable. That precious, beautiful boy. His world must have been turned upside down when his loving foster parents suddenly disappeared out of his life, nevermind what he then went through at the hands of those two monsters.

My son is 10 months old and full of personality and smiles, the same as Preston would and should have been. My husband tells me I shouldn't go reading the details of news items like this because it's so upsetting, but I feel like once I've seen a headline I have to read on because these precious souls deserve to have their stories heard.

Can anyone let me know how long those creatures have been sentenced to? I darent google it in case I see anything else.

RIP baby Preston. I hope you are at peace now. There are many kind people in this world who will always remember you.

Yes I hope so too.

Varley: Whole life tariff
Fazakerley: 25 years

So the max they could get for the charges, basically.